Would you give your kids to Trump?

[Neutraligon]

I love how IM has ignored the fact that a president's kids is a target for for kidnapping or murder.

[Infected Mushroom]

I love how IM has ignored the fact that a president's kids is a target for for kidnapping or murder.

When was the last time a US president’s kid was kidnapped?

[NeoOasis]

"I'm the best dad ever, no one has seen a better dad for whatever this kid's name is. Too bad the democrats have forced me to lock him in a cage, so sad. Anyway, I'm doing great, I love myself, I'm totally great. Just ask anyone, and they'll tell you that I said I'm great."

I stand by what I said. I don't care how much Trump is worth economically, he's morally bankrupt, and no way in hell I'm letting anything with my genetic material near him. I will raise my own children on my own... I mean really... how hard could it be?

He’s “morally bankrupt” yet he’s donated more to charity then all the posters on this thread added together

I’d say this gives him a very strong, parent worthy moral character, it’s worth millions

Doing a few good things doesn't negate the bad. In this case ripping families apart shows he is a shitty, unempathtic parent. He lacks even the most basic of sympathy. I don't give a flying shit how much you donate to charity when your most visible actions are to rip families apart, and then have the audicity to merely blame someone else for it. He doesn't care about children, about families, or even honor. The man flaunts the law. Morality is not a trait I would use to describe him.

And let me tell you. If I was a multi-billionaire, I would donate three times more than he ever did or will. I too can make wild bullshit claims without any means to back it up. But my sentiment remains. If I ever get a small loan of 14 million, and go big with it, you'll see my last name on charities, not some garish apartment complex for the wealthy.

[Sungai Pusat]

You know, I have no doubt in my mind about the financial capacity of Trump raising a kid... I am just deeply unsure about if the expertise that one has in one area really constitutes expertise and skill in all areas, like let's be clear here; smart people are not gods, they're not all-knowing shitlords who can command the world into being the way they want it to be, their greatest strengths are in pretty much the places they have the most expertise in and that's it.

Also, this is a wonderful new low high for you, IM, keep up the good work!

[Neutraligon]

I love how IM has ignored the fact that a president's kids is a target for for kidnapping or murder.

When was the last time a US president’s kid was kidnapped?

Why does that matter?

[Sungai Pusat]

You don’t like politicians? Why not?

I don’t trust most of them with my state, why would I trust them with my kids?

Something isn't that what liberals want something. *nods in faux-conservative*

I love how IM has ignored the fact that a president's kids is a target for for kidnapping or murder.

When was the last time a US president’s kid was kidnapped?

Secret Service hasn't failed the children of presidents yet, don't jinx it!

[Internationalist Bastard]

I love how IM has ignored the fact that a president's kids is a target for for kidnapping or murder.

When was the last time a US president’s kid was kidnapped?

No preseident was ever kidnapped, doesn’t mean it won’t happen

[Infected Mushroom]

When was the last time a US president’s kid was kidnapped?

Why does that matter?

If the answer is none, then it’s not a realistic concern

[Infected Mushroom]

When was the last time a US president’s kid was kidnapped?

No preseident was ever kidnapped, doesn’t mean it won’t happen

It’s too much of a low probability event

Concerns about kids being kidnapped shouldn’t be an issue

[Internationalist Bastard]

No preseident was ever kidnapped, doesn’t mean it won’t happen

It’s too much of a low probability event

Concerns about kids being kidnapped shouldn’t be an issue

Well then I know who I’m not putting in charge of my kids

[NeoOasis]

No preseident was ever kidnapped, doesn’t mean it won’t happen

It’s too much of a low probability event

Concerns about kids being kidnapped shouldn’t be an issue

I'm sure everyone thought the same about assassination attempts. (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley) The fact that the children are assigned secret service guards means that kidnapping is a very real concern, and it is an issue. Which I suppose is a plus in this case. I'd rather my kid have a father figure to look up to... and a bodyguard would be a more constant presence than Trump.

(Not that I'm giving anything away mind you.)

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s too much of a low probability event

Concerns about kids being kidnapped shouldn’t be an issue

I'm sure everyone thought the same about assassination attempts. (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley) The fact that the children are assigned secret service guards means that kidnapping is a very real concern, and it is an issue. Which I suppose is a plus in this case. I'd rather my kid have a father figure to look up to... and a bodyguard would be a more constant presence than Trump.

(Not that I'm giving anything away mind you.)

Your kid is more likely to be kidnapped because you have zero guards

[Infected Mushroom]

It’s too much of a low probability event

Concerns about kids being kidnapped shouldn’t be an issue

Well then I know who I’m not putting in charge of my kids

Trump can afford lots of guards

[Internationalist Bastard]

Well then I know who I’m not putting in charge of my kids

Trump can afford lots of guards

Sure he can
I’m saying I wouldn’t put you in charge of my kids

[Sungai Pusat]

I'm sure everyone thought the same about assassination attempts. (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley) The fact that the children are assigned secret service guards means that kidnapping is a very real concern, and it is an issue. Which I suppose is a plus in this case. I'd rather my kid have a father figure to look up to... and a bodyguard would be a more constant presence than Trump.

(Not that I'm giving anything away mind you.)

Your kid is more likely to be kidnapped because you have zero guards

Look at it this way: The chances of being picked for kidnapping, especially to actually go through the process instead of having a prank call happen, is probably quite close to zero if you don't have anything to signal notoriety or wealth.

So that's just as much a fucking hypothetical as anything else here is, except the kid being in danger due to their connection to the president is actually a slightly higher possibility than "rando kidnaps rando for what is basically student debt and a middling 401k"

[NeoOasis]

I'm sure everyone thought the same about assassination attempts. (Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley) The fact that the children are assigned secret service guards means that kidnapping is a very real concern, and it is an issue. Which I suppose is a plus in this case. I'd rather my kid have a father figure to look up to... and a bodyguard would be a more constant presence than Trump.

(Not that I'm giving anything away mind you.)

Your kid is more likely to be kidnapped because you have zero guards

Nonsense. I will teach my child the ways of the kung fu. She/he/xe will be able to karate chop their way out of any judocentric mess they might find themselves in. If you aren't raising your kid to be an MMA champion, you've done it wrong.

[Infected Mushroom]

Your kid is more likely to be kidnapped because you have zero guards

Look at it this way: The chances of being picked for kidnapping, especially to actually go through the process instead of having a prank call happen, is probably quite close to zero if you don't have anything to signal notoriety or wealth.

So that's just as much a fucking hypothetical as anything else here is, except the kid being in danger due to their connection to the president is actually a slightly higher possibility than "rando kidnaps rando for what is basically student debt and a middling 401k"

You’re less likely to get away with high profile kidnappings? It makes far more sense to go after people with less/no guards and who don’t have the political resources to make the police catching you a top priority?

I don’t think being trump’s kid increases kidnapping risk

[Infected Mushroom]

Your kid is more likely to be kidnapped because you have zero guards

Nonsense. I will teach my child the ways of the kung fu. She/he/xe will be able to karate chop their way out of any judocentric mess they might find themselves in. If you aren't raising your kid to be an MMA champion, you've done it wrong.

Trump can hire better instructors

[NeoOasis]

Nonsense. I will teach my child the ways of the kung fu. She/he/xe will be able to karate chop their way out of any judocentric mess they might find themselves in. If you aren't raising your kid to be an MMA champion, you've done it wrong.

Trump can hire better instructors

No he can't. I'm not talking about take the chosen one to some half assed training dojo in the local strip mall. I'm talking full on abandonment of the child to some weird monastary in Tibet. I mean it's that or leave em to Trump. In this case, because the kid will be in Tibet, surrounded by buddhist monks. So here I won't even have to worry about a daughter getting grabbed by the pussy. They will train for many years in the martial and marital arts to become the perfect being capable of splitting bullets as well as hairs.

[Myrensis]

He says, while gushing effusively over a man who casually admits to using the life of his nephew's deathly ill child as a bargaining chip to stop him from contesting his father's will, after he used said father's declining physical and mental health to get him to cut said nephews family out.

Trump may be fine with his children getting everything (so long as they remain totally obedient), but he's made it entirely clear that family is entirely expendable if it threatens his money now, so spare us the lecturing.



And it's become very clear that you are blind drunk on the Trump kool-Aid, particularly Trump's belief that personal worth is determined solely by net worth

If people are perfectly capable of providing their children with a reasonably comfortable and happy life..why should they hand them over to be raised by a petty narcissistic asshole man-child just because he happens to be a rich petty narcissistic asshole man-child?

It's obvious. Mushroom wishes he was raised by Donnie Trump.

Yes, getting the distinct impression that this thread is much less about any real debate on the idea of giving your kids a better life, and more just for Mushroom to vent on his Trump obsession and frustration that he'll never be his child.

[Arkhane]

I'm going to assume this is about the recent debacle, one that, by the way, has been going on for more than a decade and which the media just recently decided to bring out of the closet again and parade around while adding sprinkles of tears in their eyes with all their fake humanitarian sympathy can muster.

That being the case, I would give my child to Trump and his agency over the following parental decisions that I have made as an undocumented immigrant.

- Putting my 9 year old girl on birth control because before we even reach the border, I know she will be raped along the way and frankly protecting her from sexual assault is less important than making sure she doesn't get pregnant.

- Not giving my 12 year old son enough water along the journey to the point he collapses from dehydration at the feet of an agent after a grueling journey he did not want.

- Forcing my five year old son to survive on his own by leaving him to wander back to Mexico because I couldn't be bothered to take a slower pace to return home.

- Being caught red-handed trafficking undocumented children for a sex ring.

The list goes on but the media would have you painted that ALL children being separated are being taken from their loving, caring, innocent parents. Now I'm not going to paint these cases as applying to every single one and neither am I denying that the detainment centers need drastic improvements, but what irks me most is that these things are being presented in the most sensational, dramatic, self-righteous, fear-mongering, one sided, agenda-pushing, political-propping performances, and that right there detracts from their "genuine" and "sincere" concern for the lives of these children.

I saw minimal concern and public empathy when I first heard and watched parents and children being separated in 2013, there were no blame-game or biting commentary of one side accusing the other. Now that it's trendy and in vogue again, people are more concerned with politically one-upping and throwing self-righteous virtue left and right. Suddenly there is a grip of racism in the nation, suddenly they're compared to Nazi concentration camps and the current evil administration finally decided to execute this diabolical and completely new plot, never-mind that Trump was the only president who actually did something and stopped this separation after years of being downplayed and ignored.

But no, he's the evil nazi villain ruling in the dystopian reich. Yes, an overly tan former celebrity tweeting mean and (sometimes to be honest) idiotic posts on twitter is compared to one of the most clever architects of human genocide in history. We laugh at the USA not because of the president they elected, but because of their good vs evil complex that came from watching too much Indiana Jones, Inglorious Bastards, Harry Potter and many other fantasy films. ICE agents, the Police force and many public servants are being doxxed and threatened for doing their jobs, because in the "heroes" perspective, they're the bad guys, riots and assault are being perpetrated by "freedom fighters" because it's what being good is all about. I'd rather process parents and children separately TEMPORARILY to make sure no child abuse is taking place.

[Thermodolia]

Well then I know who I’m not putting in charge of my kids

Trump can afford lots of guards

Trump actually doesn’t pay for any of them. Our taxes do

[Infected Mushroom]

I'm going to assume this is about the recent debacle, one that, by the way, has been going on for more than a decade and which the media just recently decided to bring out of the closet again and parade around while adding sprinkles of tears in their eyes with all their fake humanitarian sympathy can muster.

That being the case, I would give my child to Trump and his agency over the following parental decisions that I have made as an undocumented immigrant.

- Putting my 9 year old girl on birth control because before we even reach the border, I know she will be raped along the way and frankly protecting her from sexual assault is less important than making sure she doesn't get pregnant.

- Not giving my 12 year old son enough water along the journey to the point he collapses from dehydration at the feet of an agent after a grueling journey he did not want.

- Forcing my five year old son to survive on his own by leaving him to wander back to Mexico because I couldn't be bothered to take a slower pace to return home.

- Being caught red-handed trafficking undocumented children for a sex ring.

The list goes on but the media would have you painted that ALL children being separated are being taken from their loving, caring, innocent parents. Now I'm not going to paint these cases as applying to every single one and neither am I denying that the detainment centers need drastic improvements, but what irks me most is that these things are being presented in the most sensational, dramatic, self-righteous, fear-mongering, one sided, agenda-pushing, political-propping performances, and that right there detracts from their "genuine" and "sincere" concern for the lives of these children.

I saw minimal concern and public empathy when I first heard and watched parents and children being separated in 2013, there were no blame-game or biting commentary of one side accusing the other. Now that it's trendy and in vogue again, people are more concerned with politically one-upping and throwing self-righteous virtue left and right. Suddenly there is a grip of racism in the nation, suddenly they're compared to Nazi concentration camps and the current evil administration finally decided to execute this diabolical and completely new plot, never-mind that Trump was the only president who actually did something and stopped this separation after years of being downplayed and ignored.

But no, he's the evil nazi villain ruling in the dystopian reich. Yes, an overly tan former celebrity tweeting mean and (sometimes to be honest) idiotic posts on twitter is compared to one of the most clever architects of human genocide in history. We laugh at the USA not because of the president they elected, but because of their good vs evil complex that came from watching too much Indiana Jones, Inglorious Bastards, Harry Potter and many other fantasy films. ICE agents, the Police force and many public servants are being doxxed and threatened for doing their jobs, because in the "heroes" perspective, they're the bad guys, riots and assault are being perpetrated by "freedom fighters" because it's what being good is all about. I'd rather process parents and children separately TEMPORARILY to make sure no child abuse is taking place.

Now there's someone who is actually Thinking...

I like this

[Thermodolia]

I'm going to assume this is about the recent debacle, one that, by the way, has been going on for more than a decade and which the media just recently decided to bring out of the closet again and parade around while adding sprinkles of tears in their eyes with all their fake humanitarian sympathy can muster.

That being the case, I would give my child to Trump and his agency over the following parental decisions that I have made as an undocumented immigrant.

- Putting my 9 year old girl on birth control because before we even reach the border, I know she will be raped along the way and frankly protecting her from sexual assault is less important than making sure she doesn't get pregnant.

- Not giving my 12 year old son enough water along the journey to the point he collapses from dehydration at the feet of an agent after a grueling journey he did not want.

- Forcing my five year old son to survive on his own by leaving him to wander back to Mexico because I couldn't be bothered to take a slower pace to return home.

- Being caught red-handed trafficking undocumented children for a sex ring.

The list goes on but the media would have you painted that ALL children being separated are being taken from their loving, caring, innocent parents. Now I'm not going to paint these cases as applying to every single one and neither am I denying that the detainment centers need drastic improvements, but what irks me most is that these things are being presented in the most sensational, dramatic, self-righteous, fear-mongering, one sided, agenda-pushing, political-propping performances, and that right there detracts from their "genuine" and "sincere" concern for the lives of these children.

I saw minimal concern and public empathy when I first heard and watched parents and children being separated in 2013, there were no blame-game or biting commentary of one side accusing the other. Now that it's trendy and in vogue again, people are more concerned with politically one-upping and throwing self-righteous virtue left and right. Suddenly there is a grip of racism in the nation, suddenly they're compared to Nazi concentration camps and the current evil administration finally decided to execute this diabolical and completely new plot, never-mind that Trump was the only president who actually did something and stopped this separation after years of being downplayed and ignored.

But no, he's the evil nazi villain ruling in the dystopian reich. Yes, an overly tan former celebrity tweeting mean and (sometimes to be honest) idiotic posts on twitter is compared to one of the most clever architects of human genocide in history. We laugh at the USA not because of the president they elected, but because of their good vs evil complex that came from watching too much Indiana Jones, Inglorious Bastards, Harry Potter and many other fantasy films. ICE agents, the Police force and many public servants are being doxxed and threatened for doing their jobs, because in the "heroes" perspective, they're the bad guys, riots and assault are being perpetrated by "freedom fighters" because it's what being good is all about. I'd rather process parents and children separately TEMPORARILY to make sure no child abuse is taking place.

Now there's someone who is actually Thinking...

I like this

It also seems to be in the wrong damn thread

[Infected Mushroom]

Now there's someone who is actually Thinking...

I like this

It also seems to be in the wrong damn thread

see, you don't understand...

I'm not surprised