Would you give your kids to Trump?

[Genivaria]

Not at first, just Warned, continuing to do it is not advised though.

That is so Draconian!

It's free speech, so I can post whatever I like here, right?
Ahahahaha! Hahaha! Free speech! No, it's not. I run this web site, see, so you have to play by my rules. It's like my own Father Knows Best state.

---FAQ

[Genivaria]

You would, actually. That kind of malicious nicknaming of political figures has been banned since people lost the run of themselves calling Obama and Romney names.

Like Obeanie and Romfile?

I can tell you're going to have a short time here.

[Schreiner]

Like Obeanie and Romfile?

I can tell you're going to have a short time here.

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[The South Falls]

I've worked with children before and they've all turned out great.

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

I'd really like to know where this came from.

[Genivaria]

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

I'd really like to know where this came from.

Game of Thrones?

[Neutraligon]

That has not been my experience, ever. Considering my mom is a doctor...yeah.

Your mom is clearly not a good doctor, IM says so so it must be true *nods*

It's just...where the hell did that rule of thumb come from? It makes no sense, at all. Anyway I still would not give my kid to Trump,mainly because I find him to be highly immoral, do not trust him to raise a kid well given his history, and will likely have enough money and connections that the kid will not do poorly there.

[Ifreann]

From what I’ve seen, as a general rule of thumb:

Good doctors don’t make good parents (kind of like how good soldiers don’t make good kings) Who knows though... maybe you are an exception

I'd really like to know where this came from.

Game of Thrones?

[The South Falls]

I'd really like to know where this came from.

Game of Thrones?

Doesn't generally make good rule of thumbs. Like "Incest gets you a kingdom".

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Game of Thrones?

Doesn't generally make good rule of thumbs. Like "Incest gets you a kingdom".

Game of Thrones: Incest is fantasy fiction wincest *nods*

[Huntpublic]

Nope, I think his policies are good, but his personal life ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Maybe he could be a good father, but only if he could prove it, even then I would want to raise my own child. And if the government forcibly tries to take my child, well, I have my guns for a reason...

[The Archregimancy]

Game of Thrones?

Doesn't generally make good rule of thumbs. Like "Incest gets you a kingdom".

It seemed to work for Ancient Egypt's Eighteenth Dynasty.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Your mom is clearly not a good doctor, IM says so so it must be true *nods*

It's just...where the hell did that rule of thumb come from? It makes no sense, at all. Anyway I still would not give my kid to Trump,mainly because I find him to be highly immoral, do not trust him to raise a kid well given his history, and will likely have enough money and connections that the kid will not do poorly there.

We all know he pulled it out of his ass. We don't need to pretend it comes from somewhere special.

And I wouldn't give my children to Trump either, because they're my kids quite frankly.

[Dogmeat]

Doesn't generally make good rule of thumbs. Like "Incest gets you a kingdom".

It seemed to work for Ancient Egypt's Eighteenth Dynasty.

*Insert obligatory Habsburg joke.*

[Infected Mushroom]

It's just...where the hell did that rule of thumb come from? It makes no sense, at all. Anyway I still would not give my kid to Trump,mainly because I find him to be highly immoral, do not trust him to raise a kid well given his history, and will likely have enough money and connections that the kid will not do poorly there.

We all know he pulled it out of his ass. We don't need to pretend it comes from somewhere special.

And I wouldn't give my children to Trump either, because they're my kids quite frankly.

And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live (by your own admission if you had billions of dollars you wouldn’t supply them with anything more then 10k once you are now longer legally obliged to provide). I suspect you would even charge your own kids rent as soon as they can legally work groceries.

The thought of them growing up and taken care by the rich, affluent trump family and having a real shot at being someone important and powerful shocks you. You are reminded how your own father made you bleed to get what little you have today and you shudder at the possibility that your child could get more for less.

Most important of all, you have to remain the legal father. Anything else is a massive blow to your self worth.

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it). Internally it’s all consistent (if you run with some premises) but it is utterly reprehensible.

It has become very clear to me that a lot of people in this thread respond with a form of knee jerk possessiveness. THEY ARE MY KID. Never mind what is best for them. Never mind that someone could offer more.The other half is this strange ideology where you remain “parent” but really won’t support your children at all.

[Ifreann]

We all know he pulled it out of his ass. We don't need to pretend it comes from somewhere special.

And I wouldn't give my children to Trump either, because they're my kids quite frankly.

And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live (by your own admission if you had billions of dollars you wouldn’t supply them with anything more then 10k once you are now longer legally obliged to provide). I suspect you would even charge your own kids rent as soon as they can legally work groceries.

The thought of them growing up and taken care by the rich, affluent trump family and having a real shot at being someone important and powerful shocks you. You are reminded how your own father made you bleed to get what little you have today and you shudder at the possibility that your child could get more for less.

Most important of all, you have to remain the legal father. Anything else is a massive blow to your self worth.

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it).

You consistently ignore, however, that giving one's child over to Trump would not actually confer anything like the advantages that you imagine it would.

[The Serbian Empire]

No, but I'm fairly confident I am sterile to the point of it not even being possible.

[Infected Mushroom]

And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live (by your own admission if you had billions of dollars you wouldn’t supply them with anything more then 10k once you are now longer legally obliged to provide). I suspect you would even charge your own kids rent as soon as they can legally work groceries.

The thought of them growing up and taken care by the rich, affluent trump family and having a real shot at being someone important and powerful shocks you. You are reminded how your own father made you bleed to get what little you have today and you shudder at the possibility that your child could get more for less.

Most important of all, you have to remain the legal father. Anything else is a massive blow to your self worth.

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it).

You consistently ignore, however, that giving one's child over to Trump would not actually confer anything like the advantages that you imagine it would.

Better education, better healthcare, more comforts in life, more opportunities, more contacts, bigger house, better food, more global travel...

On and on it goes

And even if the kid screws up, he’s all set for life

[Ifreann]

You consistently ignore, however, that giving one's child over to Trump would not actually confer anything like the advantages that you imagine it would.

Better education, better healthcare, more comforts in life, more opportunities, more contacts, bigger house, better food, more global travel...

On and on it goes

And even if the kid screws up, he’s all set for life

I've pointed out repeatedly that this is not all necessarily true. First and foremost, Trump is not as rich as he leads people to believe, and large amounts of his wealth are based on debt. Second, the education, healthcare, and luxuries Trump can provide are more expensive, but not necessarily better. Third, Trump is not long for this world. He is 71, overweight, eats nothing but fast food, and is currently doing one of the most stressful jobs on Earth. He will probably not be alive in ten years. He will almost certainly not be alive in twenty years. Therefore he cannot provide any useful opportunities or contacts to the infant he would be given today. And the child will be too young to meaningfully benefit from travel, over-priced food, or living in Trump's penthouse in Manhattan.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

We all know he pulled it out of his ass. We don't need to pretend it comes from somewhere special.

And I wouldn't give my children to Trump either, because they're my kids quite frankly.

And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live (by your own admission if you had billions of dollars you wouldn’t supply them with anything more then 10k once you are now longer legally obliged to provide). I suspect you would even charge your own kids rent as soon as they can legally work groceries.

The thought of them growing up and taken care by the rich, affluent trump family and having a real shot at being someone important and powerful shocks you. You are reminded how your own father made you bleed to get what little you have today and you shudder at the possibility that your child could get more for less.

Most important of all, you have to remain the legal father. Anything else is a massive blow to your self worth.

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it). Internally it’s all consistent (if you run with some premises) but it is utterly reprehensible.

It has become very clear to me that a lot of people in this thread respond with a form of knee jerk possessiveness. THEY ARE MY KID. Never mind what is best for them. Never mind that someone could offer more.The other half is this strange ideology where you remain “parent” but really won’t support your children at all.

10,000? Surely you jest. Once they move out of the house I would not give them a single cent divided in half. Nothing. And yea I would start charging them rent if they started getting all uppity on me just because they now have a job that gives them a mediocre 11 dollars an hour and they feel they can now take care of themselves with just 11 dollars an hour.

Also, I love how you pretend I give a fuck what you think about my parenting style.

Ultimately you are talking about a hypothetical child of mine. I will do whatever the fuck I think is best with them, hypothetical or not. You're just some random person online who spites me because I said I wouldn't let my child inherit jack shit if they are financially irresponsible.

As for this: "And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live". No fucking shit? It's my fucking money, I can burn it in an effigy if I want to. I can give reams of it to hookers so they can shove that money up their asshole. I can do whatever the fuck I want with my money, and if I want them to live a specific lifestyle before I get them to inherit my fucking money, then that is what I will do with my money. Because again, it is my money. It's not your money.

[UniversalCommons]

Your assuming you know what being good to your kid means. For Trump it could well mean raising a personal butler or servant. You are probably of a lower class than Mr. Trump. It is not mistreating a person to raise a person in a specific function. Head housekeeper, groundskeeper, office manager for real estate. This is what happened quite often when you turned over your child to a richer person. I would not do this. He views his own children as having good genes. He may not see you this way. You might want to read how Trump was raised. He did not get everything handed to him. One of his first jobs was collecting aluminum cans when he was little. He had to borrow money to start his business initially.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You consistently ignore, however, that giving one's child over to Trump would not actually confer anything like the advantages that you imagine it would.

Better education, better healthcare, more comforts in life, more opportunities, more contacts, bigger house, better food, more global travel...

On and on it goes

And even if the kid screws up, he’s all set for life

The human mind is so fascinating in how it justifies itself.

[Infected Mushroom]

Better education, better healthcare, more comforts in life, more opportunities, more contacts, bigger house, better food, more global travel...

On and on it goes

And even if the kid screws up, he’s all set for life

I've pointed out repeatedly that this is not all necessarily true. First and foremost, Trump is not as rich as he leads people to believe, and large amounts of his wealth are based on debt. Second, the education, healthcare, and luxuries Trump can provide are more expensive, but not necessarily better. Third, Trump is not long for this world. He is 71, overweight, eats nothing but fast food, and is currently doing one of the most stressful jobs on Earth. He will probably not be alive in ten years. He will almost certainly not be alive in twenty years. Therefore he cannot provide any useful opportunities or contacts to the infant he would be given today. And the child will be too young to meaningfully benefit from travel, over-priced food, or living in Trump's penthouse in Manhattan.

I've pointed out repeatedly that this is not all necessarily true. First and foremost, Trump is not as rich as he leads people to believe, and large amounts of his wealth are based on debt.

Trump isn't in debt. It says on Google he's got 3.1 billion nets worth. Plus he's part of the social elite. When the social elite occasionally go "in debt," its not in the same way as the rest of us. Its never in any sense permanent.

Second, the education, healthcare, and luxuries Trump can provide are more expensive, but not necessarily better.

Come now. Of course its better. The more you pay, the better it is. And this is especially true when there are orders of magnitude differences. If someone goes to a top private school, his entire life is entirely different then someone who went to a state funded public school for instance. And in terms of healthcare... of course Trump would have access to the very very best (and only because of wealth). Hell, I'm sure all of these things (even comforts) are hugely related to a longer lifespan meaning the kid will live longer.

Third, Trump is not long for this world. He is 71, overweight, eats nothing but fast food, and is currently doing one of the most stressful jobs on Earth. He will probably not be alive in ten years. He will almost certainly not be alive in twenty years. Therefore he cannot provide any useful opportunities or contacts to the infant he would be given today. And the child will be too young to meaningfully benefit from travel, over-priced food, or living in Trump's penthouse in Manhattan.

A businessman like Trump always has a back up plan. He wouldn't have taken the kid in unless there are others willing to care for the child after he's gone; and they too would have the Trump name and connection.

The Trump name is only going to get more powerful as time gets on... its like a real life Lannister name. Its in the same league as the Kennedies, Clintons, or the royal Saudis. If you are born in such a family, you are a Somebody and your entire existence is elevated.

There's simply far more to offer the child.

[Infected Mushroom]

And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live (by your own admission if you had billions of dollars you wouldn’t supply them with anything more then 10k once you are now longer legally obliged to provide). I suspect you would even charge your own kids rent as soon as they can legally work groceries.

The thought of them growing up and taken care by the rich, affluent trump family and having a real shot at being someone important and powerful shocks you. You are reminded how your own father made you bleed to get what little you have today and you shudder at the possibility that your child could get more for less.

Most important of all, you have to remain the legal father. Anything else is a massive blow to your self worth.

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it). Internally it’s all consistent (if you run with some premises) but it is utterly reprehensible.

It has become very clear to me that a lot of people in this thread respond with a form of knee jerk possessiveness. THEY ARE MY KID. Never mind what is best for them. Never mind that someone could offer more.The other half is this strange ideology where you remain “parent” but really won’t support your children at all.

10,000? Surely you jest. Once they move out of the house I would not give them a single cent divided in half. Nothing. And yea I would start charging them rent if they started getting all uppity on me just because they now have a job that gives them a mediocre 11 dollars an hour and they feel they can now take care of themselves with just 11 dollars an hour.

Also, I love how you pretend I give a fuck what you think about my parenting style.

Ultimately you are talking about a hypothetical child of mine. I will do whatever the fuck I think is best with them, hypothetical or not. You're just some random person online who spites me because I said I wouldn't let my child inherit jack shit if they are financially irresponsible.

As for this: "And you alone reserve the right to work them half to death and disinherit them if they don’t live their life the way you want them to live". No fucking shit? It's my fucking money, I can burn it in an effigy if I want to. I can give reams of it to hookers so they can shove that money up their asshole. I can do whatever the fuck I want with my money, and if I want them to live a specific lifestyle before I get them to inherit my fucking money, then that is what I will do with my money. Because again, it is my money. It's not your money.

Wow... okay... 0_0

[The Holy Therns]

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it). Internally it’s all consistent (if you run with some premises) but it is utterly reprehensible.

Considering the topic of the thread, I think you have no business calling anyone's point of view reprehensible.

[Infected Mushroom]

I have to say, this is quite a fascinating alternate point of view (even though I can’t personally agree with it). Internally it’s all consistent (if you run with some premises) but it is utterly reprehensible.

Considering the topic of the thread, I think you have no business calling anyone's point of view reprehensible.

I have the right, and in this case, it is entirely justified