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Would you give your kids to Trump?

Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:57 pm

You have a new kid. Donald Trump wants your kid (he would like to be a good father).

So let’s say, the law allows you to give your newborn kid to Donald Trump. The Donald would become the legal father under the law (and the sole recognized guardian).

He’s rich as a Lannister, President of a powerful nation, and has powerful allies in all sectors of society. Clearly, he can provide the kid with far more economic resources and social opportunities. In strict material terms, he can offer the kid a “better” future.

However, he might not necessarily be the best moral guide. Furthermore, he would be very busy as President. And having said this, there’s the obvious con that you won’t see your kid again.

Having said this, please discuss:

1. Would you give your kid to the Donald? Why or why not?
2. Objectively speaking, if you truly loved your kid and wanted the best for them... should you give them to Trump?

I believe that after a great deal of deliberation, I would be forced to conclude that giving to Trump is the way to go.

Love means giving the kid d the best shot they have to be “successful” in life. And sometimes, that means going with different parents.

I mean think about it. He’s a president, he’s rich as a Lannister, he’s got allies everywhere. The kid will go to very high places with him. I must let go.
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Postby The Burke Islands » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:01 pm

Erm, no, nothing against Trump’s parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:03 pm

The Burke Islands wrote:Erm, no, nothing against Trump’s parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.


Erm, no, a lot against Trump's parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.
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Postby Collatis » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:03 pm

No, but I can definitely see myself in a situation where I’d have to kill my own child in self-defense.

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Postby The Burke Islands » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:04 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Burke Islands wrote:Erm, no, nothing against Trump’s parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.


Erm, no, a lot against Trump's parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.

His children seemed to turn out ok.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:05 pm

The Burke Islands wrote:Erm, no, nothing against Trump’s parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.


So you think it’s in the child’s best interest to be raised by YOU and not by the POTUS?

Or maybe you care less about the child and more about your own need to be a parent of said child?
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:06 pm

Collatis wrote:No, but I can definitely see myself in a situation where I’d have to kill my own child in self-defense.


Well that sucks.

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Telconi wrote:
Erm, no, a lot against Trump's parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.

His children seemed to turn out ok.


If they turned out okay I doubt it was by much of his doing.
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Postby Yami-Chan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:07 pm

Mixed feelings about the guy, but that doesn't matter since I'd like to raise my own kid, and this isn't Crusader Kings II where I can ship him off so I'm not bothered by him anymore.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:08 pm

No I don't want my kids being spoiled. Thats why my kid is only getting a BMW when he turns 16 let him earn a Bugatti with his own money likely his old man did.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:09 pm

Are you fucking high?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:10 pm

Genivaria wrote:Are you fucking high?

OP is named mushroom.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:10 pm

Yami-Chan wrote:Mixed feelings about the guy, but that doesn't matter since I'd like to raise my own kid, and this isn't Crusader Kings II where I can ship him off so I'm not bothered by him anymore.


You’d like to raise the kid, but is it in the kid’s best interest?

Economically, socially, opportunity-wise

I would invite you to not reach a quick conclusion based on parental instinct

It’s not about you, it’s about the kid

If you really think the kid is better off with you then the President if the USA, then explain how
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Postby Xadufell » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:10 pm

I'm not giving my kids to anyone, because they're mine, if I've done something to have them taken away it's either because it's really bad or really unfortunate. Say, for instance, my kids get taken because I'm a shit father who can't actually care for them; I probably deserve it. But if me and my wife are hospitalized and my kids have to go with someone, then so be it.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:12 pm

You know what I'll go a step further.
Not only is the answer no but I think that people like Trump should be investigated by CPS.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:12 pm

Xadufell wrote:I'm not giving my kids to anyone, because they're mine, if I've done something to have them taken away it's either because it's really bad or really unfortunate. Say, for instance, my kids get taken because I'm a shit father who can't actually care for them; I probably deserve it. But if me and my wife are hospitalized and my kids have to go with someone, then so be it.


So it’s about what you can/can’t have and not really about what is best for the infant?
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:13 pm

Xadufell wrote:I'm not giving my kids to anyone, because they're mine, if I've done something to have them taken away it's either because it's really bad or really unfortunate. Say, for instance, my kids get taken because I'm a shit father who can't actually care for them; I probably deserve it. But if me and my wife are hospitalized and my kids have to go with someone, then so be it.


Yeah, I don’t think Trump has any intrest in adopting anyone’s kids. Gonna have to give them to Hilary I guess. :p ;) :lol2:
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Postby The Burke Islands » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:14 pm

Telconi wrote:
Collatis wrote:No, but I can definitely see myself in a situation where I’d have to kill my own child in self-defense.


Well that sucks.

The Burke Islands wrote:His children seemed to turn out ok.


If they turned out okay I doubt it was by much of his doing.

That’s a little unfair to say in my opinion.
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The Burke Islands wrote:Erm, no, nothing against Trump’s parenting skills, but I want to actually raise my own child.


So you think it’s in the child’s best interest to be raised by YOU and not by the POTUS?

Or maybe you care less about the child and more about your own need to be a parent of said child?

Perhaps, but I feel I have the means to give that child a good life, with a good moral upbringing. Not all kids like being in the spotlight, being the child of the POTUS automatically brings a ton of publicity. There’s also the possibility of being spoiled or naive as a result, which is never good. The president also, understandably, doesn’t have much time for family bonding, and a child of theirs could easily feel neglected by their father’s absence.
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Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:14 pm

I can't see myself being unable to provide for my hypothetical children's basic material needs, nor would I want them to be raised by a self-absorbed celebrity billionaire.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:14 pm

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Xadufell wrote:I'm not giving my kids to anyone, because they're mine, if I've done something to have them taken away it's either because it's really bad or really unfortunate. Say, for instance, my kids get taken because I'm a shit father who can't actually care for them; I probably deserve it. But if me and my wife are hospitalized and my kids have to go with someone, then so be it.


Yeah, I don’t think Trump has any intrest in adopting anyone’s kids. Gonna have to give them to Hilary I guess. :p ;) :lol2:


The premise says he does (first sentence of op)
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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:15 pm

Genivaria wrote:You know what I'll go a step further.
Not only is the answer no but I think that people like Trump should be investigated by CPS.


You probably think that about a lot of people tho.
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Postby Xadufell » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:15 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Xadufell wrote:I'm not giving my kids to anyone, because they're mine, if I've done something to have them taken away it's either because it's really bad or really unfortunate. Say, for instance, my kids get taken because I'm a shit father who can't actually care for them; I probably deserve it. But if me and my wife are hospitalized and my kids have to go with someone, then so be it.


So it’s about what you can/can’t have and not really about what is best for the infant?


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Postby Telconi » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:15 pm

The Burke Islands wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well that sucks.



If they turned out okay I doubt it was by much of his doing.

That’s a little unfair to say in my opinion.
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So you think it’s in the child’s best interest to be raised by YOU and not by the POTUS?

Or maybe you care less about the child and more about your own need to be a parent of said child?

Perhaps, but I feel I have the means to give that child a good life, with a good moral upbringing. Not all kids like being in the spotlight, being the child of the POTUS automatically brings a ton of publicity. There’s also the possibility of being spoiled or naive as a result, which is never good. The president also, understandably, doesn’t have much time for family bonding, and a child of theirs could easily feel neglected by their father’s absence.


Good thing I said it in my opinion then eh? ;)
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Postby Cruciland » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:16 pm

Hmm... Nah, Trump has enough on his plate as it is; it would be wrong to detract from his responsibilities when I am perfectly capable of providing everything my child needs to reach the upper echelons of his/her own merit. Plus, I'd rather not have people talking about locking my kid in a room full of pedophiles just because he's being raised by Trump.
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Postby The Burke Islands » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:16 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Burke Islands wrote:That’s a little unfair to say in my opinion.

Perhaps, but I feel I have the means to give that child a good life, with a good moral upbringing. Not all kids like being in the spotlight, being the child of the POTUS automatically brings a ton of publicity. There’s also the possibility of being spoiled or naive as a result, which is never good. The president also, understandably, doesn’t have much time for family bonding, and a child of theirs could easily feel neglected by their father’s absence.


Good thing I said it in my opinion then eh? ;)

Lol fair enough.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:17 pm

The Burke Islands wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well that sucks.



If they turned out okay I doubt it was by much of his doing.

That’s a little unfair to say in my opinion.
Infected Mushroom wrote:
So you think it’s in the child’s best interest to be raised by YOU and not by the POTUS?

Or maybe you care less about the child and more about your own need to be a parent of said child?

Perhaps, but I feel I have the means to give that child a good life, with a good moral upbringing. Not all kids like being in the spotlight, being the child of the POTUS automatically brings a ton of publicity. There’s also the possibility of being spoiled or naive as a result, which is never good. The president also, understandably, doesn’t have much time for family bonding, and a child of theirs could easily feel neglected by their father’s absence.


Would you (you personally) rather be spoiled and naive but have the benefit of a Trump upbringing... or instead be raised by a regular run of the mill parent who promises a good moral education?
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