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UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:43 pm
by MERIZoC
The last one

Having proceeded to waste a 25+ point lead over the opposition and end up losing said majority, she has given the nation repeated assurances that she is "not owned, not owned" and stayed in power by negotiating a deal with the DUP, a party with "eccentric" views. This has lead to fun questions such as "does this violate the Good Friday Agreement", "did we just waste our first months of Brexit negotations on making our government even more unstable" and "did we seriously just pledge to spend £1.5bn pretty much entirely to prop up a government that couldn't get into power otherwise", all of which and more you will be able to discuss in the latest incarnation of the exciting UK Politics Thread. (For the record, my answers are "maybe", "yes" and "yes".))


Folks, welcome to a year later, where these questions still haven't been answered. We're currently contemplating how soon a united Ireland will be possible and the UK is still no closer to Brexit. Yet the strong and stable ship just keeps on chugging. Soft Brexit, hard Brexit, who cares? Brexit means Brexit. Every parliamentarian and their uncle seems to have their own vision for what this will look like, but most of their plans appear to fall under the assumption that the EU will graciously accept any deal they cook up, which seems unlikely.

But enough about that. Evictions! What would the Tories be without them, eh? Or cutthroat leadership challenges. Can't believe its two whole years ago since Gove and Johnson fucked up, maybe they'll try again. I've got so say, I'm impressed May has held on for so long, given all the fuckups.
why do they all stand like this
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Corbyn on the other hand is looking more or less secure, if a bit uninteresting at present.I hope this means he'll nationalize the banks.

With that, have fun going round in the same circles the country has been going since last June, hopefully you'll figure it out someday.

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:30 pm
by Freezic Vast
How about a border that goes right the way around Ireland and back over Scotland?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:42 pm
by Collatis
Stronger and stabler.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:46 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
Collatis wrote:Stronger and stabler.


More like Statler and Waldorf.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:09 am
by Eastfield Lodge
Collatis wrote:Stronger and stabler.

Strongerer ander stablerer

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:36 am
by Philjia
Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Collatis wrote:Stronger and stabler.

Strongerer ander stablerer

Secure and steady.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:39 am
by 0kay
Philjia wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Strongerer ander stablerer

Secure and steady.

Sturdy and substantial.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:39 am
by Platypus Bureaucracy
Philjia wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Strongerer ander stablerer

Secure and steady.

Not entirely feeble and only a little unbalanced.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:29 am
by Vassenor
2016:
“Brexit will provide more opportunities for business”

2018:
“Fuck business”

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:30 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Platypus Bureaucracy wrote:
Philjia wrote:Secure and steady.

Not entirely feeble and only a little unbalanced.

Fucking shit bags its not working

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:41 am
by Salandriagado
Olerand wrote:Uh... In a world where Norway exists. That some Brits are still delusional and believe Britain is about to become a European Singapore is... Well, delusional. But once everyone settles down, you'll be like Norway.

You provided those links yourself. Trust me, I'm not following this news, I couldn't care less.

Of course we all are, "market forces", also known as Goldman Sachs hacks, are fickle gods. But this is a sliding spectrum, and you're further on the wrong side than you would be if you weren't behaving like this.


Not quite like Norway: Norway without the world's largest sovereign wealth fund.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:30 am
by Trumptonium1
Salandriagado wrote:
Olerand wrote:Uh... In a world where Norway exists. That some Brits are still delusional and believe Britain is about to become a European Singapore is... Well, delusional. But once everyone settles down, you'll be like Norway.

You provided those links yourself. Trust me, I'm not following this news, I couldn't care less.

Of course we all are, "market forces", also known as Goldman Sachs hacks, are fickle gods. But this is a sliding spectrum, and you're further on the wrong side than you would be if you weren't behaving like this.


Not quite like Norway: Norway without the world's largest sovereign wealth fund.


You can buy all of Norway by selling Kensington.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:58 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Rightwing protest and counter protest today in belfast

Wonder if any of those boyos with the israeli flags pulled off nazi salutes again like last time. Should have popped around to have a quick look myself when i was in the town today getting some stuff.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:12 am
by Salandriagado
Trumptonium1 wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Not quite like Norway: Norway without the world's largest sovereign wealth fund.


You can buy all of Norway by selling Kensington.


Or by selling the contents of the Hamble. But that's blatantly irrelevant, given that said money isn't accessible.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:17 am
by Ostroeuropa
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rightwing protest and counter protest today in belfast

Wonder if any of those boyos with the israeli flags pulled off nazi salutes again like last time. Should have popped around to have a quick look myself when i was in the town today getting some stuff.


Israeli flags, Nazi Salutes, in support of a Neoliberal government, while singing The Internationale.

M A X I M U M C E N T R I S M

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:23 am
by The Huskar Social Union
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Rightwing protest and counter protest today in belfast

Wonder if any of those boyos with the israeli flags pulled off nazi salutes again like last time. Should have popped around to have a quick look myself when i was in the town today getting some stuff.


Israeli flags, Nazi Salutes, in support of a Neoliberal government, while singing The Internationale.

M A X I M U M C E N T R I S M

Yeah the ones with the israeli flags are not singing the internationale ill tell you that much :p

Also they tend not to like the current government as they think tommy was arrested as part of a fucking conspiracy.

Two smoke bombs got thrown at one point, but other than that nothing much kicked off, just lots of yelling back and forth.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:30 am
by Trumptonium1
This has got to be the whitest, most middle class demonstration Britain has seen

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Screech of rage by the comfortable classes against provincials wanting out.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:25 pm
by Chan Island

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:46 pm
by Dooom35796821595
I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:59 pm
by Dumb Ideologies
Dooom35796821595 wrote:I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.


Is it time to abolish democracy in favour of a Mogg/Galloway/Robinson triumvirate?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:59 pm
by Neu Leonstein
Dooom35796821595 wrote:I’m still a bit lost as to why we don’t have a coalition between Labour and the Conservatives, since Brexit is the biggest political thing to happen in fifty years.

The last couple of weeks of amendment-related shenanigans in Parliament tell you all you need to know. The parties are niceties on the surface right now. Soft-Brexit/Parliamentary Sovereignty supporters from the Tories and Labour against Hard Brexit/Cabinet Sovereignty supporters from the Tories and Labour. Neither party leader is in anything approaching control of their lot.

Meanwhile, Brexit negotiations are slowly wrapping up, but who even cares anymore.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:42 pm
by Albennia

I thought Unité Radicale was anti-Zionist?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:52 pm
by MERIZoC
Albennia wrote:

I thought Unité Radicale was anti-Zionist?

Thats a French group though?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:55 pm
by Albennia
MERIZoC wrote:
Albennia wrote:I thought Unité Radicale was anti-Zionist?

Thats a French group though?

And that's an identitarian flag.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:03 pm
by MERIZoC
Albennia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Thats a French group though?

And that's an identitarian flag.

What does that have to do with Unité Radicale