UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

[Dumb Ideologies]

So Gove and Boris resigned from their positions as Brexit and Foreign Secretaries? No-Confidence vote when and who will challenge May for Tory leader?

All this internal debate in government is making me side with the Lib Dems more and more, as the only good option left, even if it means a shot at a 2nd referendum.

>Lib Dems
>Good option

[Freezic Vast]

So Gove and Boris resigned from their positions as Brexit and Foreign Secretaries? No-Confidence vote when and who will challenge May for Tory leader?

All this internal debate in government is making me side with the Lib Dems more and more, as the only good option left, even if it means a shot at a 2nd referendum.

>Lib Dems
>Good option

Lets see, the Tories are in crisis mode, Labour is run by a Bernie Sanders type socialist, the SNP is still wanting to break the union, UKIP has run it's course, the Greens are nuts, Sinn Fein do nothing, and the DUP is even worse. I may not like the Lib Dems that much, but right now I'd take them over any other party at this point.

[Bombadil]

We only have to wait to past Sunday and Gareth Southgate will sort this all out.

[Jedi Council]

>Lib Dems
>Good option

Lets see, the Tories are in crisis mode, Labour is run by a Bernie Sanders type socialist, the SNP is still wanting to break the union, UKIP has run it's course, the Greens are nuts, Sinn Fein do nothing, and the DUP is even worse. I may not like the Lib Dems that much, but right now I'd take them over any other party at this point.

Jeremy Corbyn is to the left of Sanders.
To almost any other country Sanders would be a normal social democrat.

[The Parkus Empire]

So Gove and Boris resigned from their positions as Brexit and Foreign Secretaries? No-Confidence vote when and who will challenge May for Tory leader?

All this internal debate in government is making me side with the Lib Dems more and more, as the only good option left, even if it means a shot at a 2nd referendum.

Do any of them have a large nationalist faction?

[Dooom35796821595]

>Lib Dems
>Good option

Lets see, the Tories are in crisis mode, Labour is run by a Bernie Sanders type socialist, the SNP is still wanting to break the union, UKIP has run it's course, the Greens are nuts, Sinn Fein do nothing, and the DUP is even worse. I may not like the Lib Dems that much, but right now I'd take them over any other party at this point.

I’d rather vote for literally any other party then the Lib Dems. Of course, I am biased due to their part in the tuition fees debacle, but I would never hold them to their word again. Any party that sells out it’s core, and primary policy just to be kingmakers should be dissolved.

[The New California Republic]

So Gove and Boris resigned from their positions as Brexit and Foreign Secretaries? No-Confidence vote when and who will challenge May for Tory leader?

All this internal debate in government is making me side with the Lib Dems more and more, as the only good option left, even if it means a shot at a 2nd referendum.

>Lib Dems
>Good option

The problem for me is that I live in a flip-flopping constituency where either the Lib Dems win, or the SNP win. So, for me, the "good option" very much is the Lib Dems I'm afraid...

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Funny how this government has gone from restricting prisoners' access to books under that idiot Grayling, to allowing prisoners phones in their cells under Gauke.

[The Blaatschapen]

And a guy who has only been a senior cabinet minister for 5/6 months has been made the new Health Secretary. Fortunately, his name also lends itself to childish innuendos for people to use when he inevitably butchers carries out the Tory vision for the NHS.

(Matt Hancock, ex-Culture Secretary, for those unsure.)

I am sure he'll leave a signature piece of policy.

[Hydesland]

core, and primary policy

What on earth are you talking about?

[The New California Republic]

core, and primary policy

What on earth are you talking about?

I think he is referring to the fundamental beliefs of the party, whatever they may be.

[Hydesland]

What on earth are you talking about?

I think he is referring to the fundamental beliefs of the party, whatever they may be.

No tuition fees is not a fundamental belief of the party.

[Jedi Council]

What on earth are you talking about?

I think he is referring to the fundamental beliefs of the party, whatever they may be.

Which the LibDems had to compromise on while in the Coalition with Cameron.

That being said, British politics is a shambles right now, and it seems each party compromises a new value every week.

[Dooom35796821595]

I think he is referring to the fundamental beliefs of the party, whatever they may be.

No tuition fees is not a fundamental belief of the party.

It was before they were in the Tory Lib Dem coalition. Then they dropped it like a brick, and agreed to triple them.

[The New California Republic]

I think he is referring to the fundamental beliefs of the party, whatever they may be.

No tuition fees is not a fundamental belief of the party.

Oh, I didn't realize that's what they were referring to. But yes, you are right, that is complete bull. Tuition fees are not a fundamental belief of the Lib Dems, it is a very recent thing that they have happened across.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Compromises are the bread and butter of politics.

[Hydesland]

No tuition fees is not a fundamental belief of the party.

It was before they were in the Tory Lib Dem coalition. Then they dropped it like a brick, and agreed to triple them.

No, the pledge wasn't a "fundamental belief", it was one small thing of thousands they campaigned on for that specific election, which they compromised on as a very junior partner in a coalition (all coalition governments involve parties compromising aspects of their manifesto, otherwise coalitions cannot work at all) - it's weird how people hyper focus on that, but ignore the massive amounts of election promises and manifesto pledges that every other party has repeatedly broken time and time again.

[The New California Republic]

No tuition fees is not a fundamental belief of the party.

It was before they were in the Tory Lib Dem coalition. Then they dropped it like a brick, and agreed to triple them.

It isn't a core belief of the party, it is a relatively recent policy adoption on their part.

[Jedi Council]

It was before they were in the Tory Lib Dem coalition. Then they dropped it like a brick, and agreed to triple them.

No, the pledge wasn't a "fundamental belief", it was one small thing of thousands they campaigned on for that specific election, which they compromised on as a very junior partner in a coalition (all coalition governments involve parties compromising aspects of their manifesto, otherwise coalitions cannot work at all) - it's weird how people hyper focus on that, but ignore the massive amounts of election promises and manifesto pledges that every other party has repeatedly broken time and time again.

It was probably a convenient symbol for disaffected LibDems to latch on to in order to express betrayal they felt occurred when their party was in Government.

[Dooom35796821595]

It was before they were in the Tory Lib Dem coalition. Then they dropped it like a brick, and agreed to triple them.

No, the pledge wasn't a "fundamental belief", it was one small thing of thousands they campaigned on for that specific election, which they compromised on as a very junior partner in a coalition (all coalition governments involve parties compromising aspects of their manifesto, otherwise coalitions cannot work at all) - it's weird how people hyper focus on that, but ignore the massive amounts of election promises and manifesto pledges that every other party has repeatedly broken time and time again.

And the Lib Dem’s joined Labour and the Conservatives in the mid as untrustworthy politicians who will do anything for more power. Except the first two have a chance at forming a government. It’s like third partys have to focus on a few core issues to get support, like UKIP wanting out of the EU, or the SNP wanting an independent Scotland.

[The New California Republic]

No, the pledge wasn't a "fundamental belief", it was one small thing of thousands they campaigned on for that specific election, which they compromised on as a very junior partner in a coalition (all coalition governments involve parties compromising aspects of their manifesto, otherwise coalitions cannot work at all) - it's weird how people hyper focus on that, but ignore the massive amounts of election promises and manifesto pledges that every other party has repeatedly broken time and time again.

And the Lib Dem’s joined Labour and the Conservatives in the mid as untrustworthy politicians who will do anything for more power. Except the first two have a chance at forming a government. It’s like third partys have to focus on a few core issues to get support, like UKIP wanting out of the EU, or the SNP wanting an independent Scotland.

Tuition fees still aren't a fundamental belief of the Lib Dems, regardless of all the pointless window dressing you have put here.

[The Huskar Social Union]

50 Days till NI gets the record for longest time without a government.

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yey?

[Caracasus]

And the Lib Dem’s joined Labour and the Conservatives in the mid as untrustworthy politicians who will do anything for more power. Except the first two have a chance at forming a government. It’s like third partys have to focus on a few core issues to get support, like UKIP wanting out of the EU, or the SNP wanting an independent Scotland.

Tuition fees still aren't a fundamental belief of the Lib Dems, regardless of all the pointless window dressing you have put here.

Intentionally or not, the Lib Dem promise on tuition fees was what drew a lot of people to vote for them and was a major factor in how successful they were.

They should have realised from just picking up a newspaper at the time that this had won them a lot of support and probably shouldn't have chucked that particular promise out the window.

[Freezic Vast]

50 Days till NI gets the record for longest time without a government.

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yey?

Irish annexation/Irish unification when?

[Vassenor]

50 Days till NI gets the record for longest time without a government.

..

yey?

Irish annexation/Irish unification when?

Probably when Brexit goes pear shaped and NI decides to bail.