The blAAtschApen wrote:Britain is crumbling
Finally, if we can't have Brexit...
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by Olerand » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:45 pm
The blAAtschApen wrote:Britain is crumbling
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:06 pm
The blAAtschApen wrote:Britain is crumbling
by Little Tin Hat » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:00 pm
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:56 am
by Shamhnan Insir » Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:05 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Tory leadership contest tonight.
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Shamhnan Insir started this wonderful tranquility, ALL PRAISE THE SHEPHERD KING
by Shrillland » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:33 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:34 am
by The Buddha Land » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:36 am
Shrillland wrote:So, should May lose tonight, which I actually don't think is as likely as some hope, who do you think will take her place?
I'm personally leaning towards Davis myself. He's a hard eurosceptic but he doesn't have the Trumpian bombastics that Boris Johnson has, at least, not from what I as an American have seen.
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:48 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Shamhnan Insir wrote:Cowards all. May was unlikable and she kicked the Brexit bomb down the road by a long way, but at least she had the stones to get something done.
It will be interesting to see which of the cowards put their names in the hat for the contest when she loses the confidence vote. It makes the withdrawal of Article 50 much more likely , which would be an excellent outcome.
by Dumb Ideologies » Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:49 am
Shrillland wrote:So, should May lose tonight, which I actually don't think is as likely as some hope, who do you think will take her place?
I'm personally leaning towards Davis myself. He's a hard eurosceptic but he doesn't have the Trumpian bombastics that Boris Johnson has, at least, not from what I as an American have seen.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:07 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:09 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:11 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't see May losing honestly.
by Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:15 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Greater vakolicci haven wrote:I don't see May losing honestly.
Me neither. Without a standout candidate the process of a leadership contest would just waste time and put someone with similar (in)ability and (non-)authority in the same situation. Only way I can see enough votes for no confidence and then May losing a leadership vote against another contender is if the parliamentary and membership parties alike have fully resigned themselves to a new election and think that the initial energy of an outside-candidate "fresh face" might get them over the line.
They're the Conservative Party, so when it comes to gambles like that they're usually sort of...um...conservative. But then they gambled on allowing a Brexit referendum, so all bets are off.
by Freezic Vast » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:21 am
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Me neither. Without a standout candidate the process of a leadership contest would just waste time and put someone with similar (in)ability and (non-)authority in the same situation. Only way I can see enough votes for no confidence and then May losing a leadership vote against another contender is if the parliamentary and membership parties alike have fully resigned themselves to a new election and think that the initial energy of an outside-candidate "fresh face" might get them over the line.
They're the Conservative Party, so when it comes to gambles like that they're usually sort of...um...conservative. But then they gambled on allowing a Brexit referendum, so all bets are off.
If labour were to call a no confidence vote though she might as well pack her bags.
by An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:33 am
by Imperializt Russia » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:15 am
Ifreann wrote:Souseiseki wrote:
one of the low key best things about brexit has been ireland. they have spent decades distancing themselves from the UK in terms of foreign policy, reducing economic dependence on the UK, moving closer to europe politically and making themselves food sufficient. they have been at the gym every day boxing and weaving getting ready for the day that england would yet again try some shit, and now that day has come they're just scoring victory over victory as their would be opponent crumbles under its own hubris. the upper echelons of the conservative and unionist party are absolutely overcome with rage that a country like ireland has the ability to frustrate their politics and confound their knavish tricks so utterly while all they can do it impotently flail about how they're a big boy and ireland is a small boy and this isn't how things are supposed to be because they've completely isolated themselves politically and diplomatically in europe. it is the ultimate success of ireland as a state and it is beautiful to behold.
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maybe i've been browsing /r/ireland too much
Ireland just casually seducing all the Remainers.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Caracasus » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:25 am
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:If I were Labour, I would wait until the Conservatives are in the middle of a leadership contest, before calling a vote of no confidence in the government.
If she wins the vote tonight the Tories have painted themselves into a corner, as she will then have to reschedule the meaningful vote on her plan, which she will lose.
by The Huskar Social Union » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:27 am
Yeah the cailín's will do that.
by Trumptonium1 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:31 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:33 am
by Caracasus » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:45 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:If May wins she's in a stronger position than before because the internal threat is partly neutered. I wonder if some of the letter-writers would rather the number of letters had stayed just short.
by Novus America » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:52 am
Caracasus wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:If May wins she's in a stronger position than before because the internal threat is partly neutered. I wonder if some of the letter-writers would rather the number of letters had stayed just short.
I've been keeping an eye on this, and no one seems to be saying they want the job. It's all a bit weird really
by Ifreann » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:53 am
Caracasus wrote:Dumb Ideologies wrote:If May wins she's in a stronger position than before because the internal threat is partly neutered. I wonder if some of the letter-writers would rather the number of letters had stayed just short.
I've been keeping an eye on this, and no one seems to be saying they want the job. It's all a bit weird really
by The Blaatschapen » Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:54 am
Novus America wrote:Caracasus wrote:
I've been keeping an eye on this, and no one seems to be saying they want the job. It's all a bit weird really
It is much easier to troll from the benches than an actual position of leadership.
People actually expect the PM to at least try to do something and work across different factions.
But people also expect MPs to be ignorant raving trolls.
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