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If a general election were held today who would you vote for?

Conservatives
126
16%
Labour
229
30%
Liberal Democrats
130
17%
Greens
39
5%
UKIP
135
18%
SNP
26
3%
Plaid Cymru
7
1%
Sinn Fein/SDLP
27
4%
DUP/UUP
12
2%
Other
35
5%
 
Total votes : 766

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:33 am

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When you lose control in a high traffic area, that tends to happen. :(

From the eyewitness statements it appears there was no braking of the vehicle, just full speed after swerving into cyclists.


I don't know about you but I'm waiting for what the actual investigators say.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:37 am

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Shamhnan Insir wrote:From the eyewitness statements it appears there was no braking of the vehicle, just full speed after swerving into cyclists.


I don't know about you but I'm waiting for what the actual investigators say.

When they haven't said anything yet all we can do is theorised, guess, hope, read eye witness statements and drink coffee.

Or realise their are reasons we don't live in London, thank got we're about 400 miles away from the place and go to the theatre.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:41 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
I don't know about you but I'm waiting for what the actual investigators say.

When they haven't said anything yet all we can do is theorised, guess, hope, read eye witness statements and drink coffee.

Or realise their are reasons we don't live in London, thank got we're about 400 miles away from the place and go to the theatre.


Well they've said there is no reason to believe it's terrorism, and that no-one has been left with life-threatening injuries (two individuals required hospital attention for non-serious injuries).

If this was a terrorist attack it's a very freaking poor excuse for one.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Aug 14, 2018 2:35 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:When they haven't said anything yet all we can do is theorised, guess, hope, read eye witness statements and drink coffee.

Or realise their are reasons we don't live in London, thank got we're about 400 miles away from the place and go to the theatre.


Well they've said there is no reason to believe it's terrorism, and that no-one has been left with life-threatening injuries (two individuals required hospital attention for non-serious injuries).

If this was a terrorist attack it's a very freaking poor excuse for one.


It's only natural that our terror output is slipping behind European rivals in both volume and quality. Foreign funding and skilled labour is draining away as the main terror manufacturers get nervous about a cliff-edge Brexit. ISIS Industries announced last week that they're delaying their new factory in Bradford, Qaeda Corp are talking about moving their London headquarters to Belgium.

During the Brexit transition we must support our domestic terrorists to keep the market vibrant. Corbyn's been on to this for years, but visionless Thatcherite free-marketeers have missed the opportunities. The Irish nationalists switched their main arms plant over to bath bombs in the late 1990s, but with the recent breakdown of their Assembly line there's a key opportunity for cross-hard-border investment to get them back to old tricks. If we can also get the Cornish into the game (perhaps nationalise the pasty industry and move it to Devon?) the entire sector could boom for years.
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Postby Philjia » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:16 am

Vassenor wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:When they haven't said anything yet all we can do is theorised, guess, hope, read eye witness statements and drink coffee.

Or realise their are reasons we don't live in London, thank got we're about 400 miles away from the place and go to the theatre.


Well they've said there is no reason to believe it's terrorism, and that no-one has been left with life-threatening injuries (two individuals required hospital attention for non-serious injuries).

If this was a terrorist attack it's a very freaking poor excuse for one.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:28 am

Philjia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Well they've said there is no reason to believe it's terrorism, and that no-one has been left with life-threatening injuries (two individuals required hospital attention for non-serious injuries).

If this was a terrorist attack it's a very freaking poor excuse for one.

Terror

Just because you want to kill a lot of people, doesn't mean you're actually capable of pulling it off.

Incompetent terrorists are everyone's favourite kind.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:37 am

The substantial number of barriers in that part of Westminster likely minimised the number of victims.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:43 am

Least no one was killed.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:43 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Can't stand the dishonesty of The Economist sometimes. Been a subscriber for years (even if they are often much more right wing than myself), but their recent article labeling him as a "far-left leader" is on the level of Daily Mail dishonesty.

Corbyn is just as left-wing as the standard Labourite before the advent of New Labour, but even publications that are supposed to be "reputable" would rather just dismiss him as a loony.

Left wing newspapers are just as capable of talking absolute bullshit as their right-wing counterparts. Look at some of the garbage that the independent manages to drag up about Brexit, for example.

Can't help the fact that Brexit is garbage tbh
The New California Republic wrote:The substantial number of barriers in that part of Westminster likely minimised the number of victims.

Sadly not. The barriers are there merely to protect the buildings themselves of Parliament, and the Palace of Westminster.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:06 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:Sadly not. The barriers are there merely to protect the buildings themselves of Parliament, and the Palace of Westminster.

There are partial barriers on the footpaths around that area, just not where this incident occurred. I think there will likely be a push now to install bollards along the footpaths.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:17 am

Netanyahu? More like Netanya-ew.

(for real tho he's a hypocritical pos and I think people should be aware of that at this point)
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:57 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Left wing newspapers are just as capable of talking absolute bullshit as their right-wing counterparts. Look at some of the garbage that the independent manages to drag up about Brexit, for example.

Can't help the fact that Brexit is garbage tbh
The New California Republic wrote:The substantial number of barriers in that part of Westminster likely minimised the number of victims.

Sadly not. The barriers are there merely to protect the buildings themselves of Parliament, and the Palace of Westminster.

The independent does come up with some rather far-fetched stories though
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:58 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Can't help the fact that Brexit is garbage tbh
Sadly not. The barriers are there merely to protect the buildings themselves of Parliament, and the Palace of Westminster.

The independent does come up with some rather far-fetched stories though


Let's see examples, along with evidence they they're garbage then.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:36 am

Greater vakolicci haven wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Can't help the fact that Brexit is garbage tbh
Sadly not. The barriers are there merely to protect the buildings themselves of Parliament, and the Palace of Westminster.

The independent does come up with some rather far-fetched stories though

While that may be the case, I don't believe it's particularly notable in that regard to other big names in British print journalism.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:38 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45185931

Oh look, Corbin at a memorial for the terrorists who attacked the Israilis at the 1972 Olympics. Antisemitism and pro terrorist in the same picture. And he refuses to apologise. Too bad the Nazis were before his time, I’m sure he’d love to meet them.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:40 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45185931

Oh look, Corbin at a memorial for the terrorists who attached the Israilis at the 1972 Olympics. Antisemitism and pro terrorist in the same picture. And he refuses to apologise. Too bad the Nazis were before his time, I’m sure he’d love to meet them.

Corbyn is such a turd. I have thought so for years before he entered the limelight.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:57 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45185931

Oh look, Corbin at a memorial for the terrorists who attacked the Israilis at the 1972 Olympics. Antisemitism and pro terrorist in the same picture. And he refuses to apologise. Too bad the Nazis were before his time, I’m sure he’d love to meet them.

Corbyn was in a cemetery! He's worse than Hitler!
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Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45185931

Oh look, Corbin at a memorial for the terrorists who attacked the Israilis at the 1972 Olympics. Antisemitism and pro terrorist in the same picture. And he refuses to apologise. Too bad the Nazis were before his time, I’m sure he’d love to meet them.

Corbyn was in a cemetery! He's worse than Hitler!

:lol2:
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45185931

Oh look, Corbin at a memorial for the terrorists who attacked the Israilis at the 1972 Olympics. Antisemitism and pro terrorist in the same picture. And he refuses to apologise. Too bad the Nazis were before his time, I’m sure he’d love to meet them.

Corbyn was in a cemetery! He's worse than Hitler!


Page 10: Local wise-woman: Corbyn loves terrorists so much he attempted NECROMANCY.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:18 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Corbyn was in a cemetery! He's worse than Hitler!


Page 10: Local wise-woman: Corbyn loves terrorists so much he attempted NECROMANCY.

Im a necromancer in D&D, does that mean i love... TERRORISM?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:23 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45185931

Oh look, Corbin at a memorial for the terrorists who attacked the Israilis at the 1972 Olympics. Antisemitism and pro terrorist in the same picture. And he refuses to apologise. Too bad the Nazis were before his time, I’m sure he’d love to meet them.

Corbyn was in a cemetery! He's worse than Hitler!


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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:31 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Page 10: Local wise-woman: Corbyn loves terrorists so much he attempted NECROMANCY.

Im a necromancer in D&D, does that mean i love... TERRORISM?


Only if you raise terrorists. :p
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:36 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Im a necromancer in D&D, does that mean i love... TERRORISM?


Only if you raise terrorists. :p

Well only a few hobgoblins so far, but the next time i come across a terrorist i will raise them.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:45 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Corbyn was in a cemetery! He's worse than Hitler!


Page 10: Local wise-woman: Corbyn loves terrorists so much he attempted NECROMANCY.

If Labour gets in power they'll bring back Bin Laden!
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:16 am

Is there really that much difference between Corbyn being at the cemetary, and Netanyahu marking the 60th anniversary of the King David Hotel bombing at an event where a plaque was unveiled which British Diplomats had to demand be changed because of the anti-British wording?
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