UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

[Ifreann]

Have another election AND another referendum.

MAXIMUM VOTING

DEMOCRACY

They see me votin'
They hatin'

[Minoa]

Fucking do it, double down, elections for days.

STRONG AND STABLE.

Have another election AND another referendum.

MAXIMUM VOTING

I would certainly root for a general election and a second referendum: this Brexit uncertainty needs to be solved once and for all.

[Hurdergaryp]

Have another election AND another referendum.

MAXIMUM VOTING

I would certainly root for a general election and a second referendum: this Brexit uncertainty needs to be solved once and for all.

Any form of Brexit comes with uncertainties, how massive those are going to be depends on what kind of Brexit will be implemented. Going for no Brexit at all, which is apparently still a possibility according to some, would probably result in the minimum amount of uncertainties, but also quite a bit of barely contained sniggering from the Continent and absolutely unrestrained growling from the disaster capitalists amongst the Brexiteers.

[Vassenor]

I would certainly root for a general election and a second referendum: this Brexit uncertainty needs to be solved once and for all.

Any form of Brexit comes with uncertainties, how massive those are going to be depends on what kind of Brexit will be implemented. Going for no Brexit at all, which is apparently still a possibility according to some, would probably result in the minimum amount of uncertainties, but also quite a bit of barely contained sniggering from the Continent and absolutely unrestrained growling from the disaster capitalists amongst the Brexiteers.

Mostly because we know that a no-deal will kind of fuck everything up.

[Dooom35796821595]

Any form of Brexit comes with uncertainties, how massive those are going to be depends on what kind of Brexit will be implemented. Going for no Brexit at all, which is apparently still a possibility according to some, would probably result in the minimum amount of uncertainties, but also quite a bit of barely contained sniggering from the Continent and absolutely unrestrained growling from the disaster capitalists amongst the Brexiteers.

Mostly because we know that a no-deal will kind of fuck everything up.

Yeah, not really. The only evidence would be an actual no-deal, since a nation has never left before.

[Vassenor]

Mostly because we know that a no-deal will kind of fuck everything up.

Yeah, not really. The only evidence would be an actual no-deal, since a nation has never left before.

And what is the evidence that No Deal is the best outcome or even a good outcome?

[Hurdergaryp]

Any form of Brexit comes with uncertainties, how massive those are going to be depends on what kind of Brexit will be implemented. Going for no Brexit at all, which is apparently still a possibility according to some, would probably result in the minimum amount of uncertainties, but also quite a bit of barely contained sniggering from the Continent and absolutely unrestrained growling from the disaster capitalists amongst the Brexiteers.

Mostly because we know that a no-deal will kind of fuck everything up.

Which is why some of the more affluent Brexiteers would love that outcome, for they have taken measures in order to make the whole resulting mess very profitable for them. Needless to say that this would be at the expense of regular citizens, but who cares?

[The South Falls]

DEMOCRACY

They see me votin'
They hatin'

Patrollin' cause they think I'm votin' fraudly

[Dooom35796821595]

Yeah, not really. The only evidence would be an actual no-deal, since a nation has never left before.

And what is the evidence that No Deal is the best outcome or even a good outcome?

It’s not the best, it’s just not the worst. The potential it has is to allow more free reign for the government to set up trade deals, control migration rules, write its own regulations etc. It was supposed to be a threat to the EU that we’d be able and willing to accept no deal over a bad deal.

[Hurdergaryp]

They see me votin'
They hatin'

Patrollin' cause they think I'm votin' fraudly

Twitter exploding with messages from ultranationalistic SuperBrits which are really wage slaves working in a Russian troll factory.

[Fascist Ultramarr]

Patrollin' cause they think I'm votin' fraudly

Twitter exploding with messages from ultranationalistic SuperBrits which are really wage slaves working in a Russian troll factory.

Russia isn't the bad country that the media portrays it to be. Constant false flags and media demonization has so many people here in the UK believe the muh Russia excuse when the establishment loses. Russia is merely resisting international finance and is also protecting Syria and opposing the greater Israel plan and is trying to help defend civilisation from globalism

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Twitter exploding with messages from ultranationalistic SuperBrits which are really wage slaves working in a Russian troll factory.

Russia isn't the bad country that the media portrays it to be. Constant false flags and media demonization has so many people here in the UK believe the muh Russia excuse when the establishment loses. Russia is merely resisting international finance and is also protecting Syria and opposing the greater Israel plan and is trying to help defend civilisation from globalism

Did you really just respond to a message about Russian trolls with that?

[Vassenor]

Twitter exploding with messages from ultranationalistic SuperBrits which are really wage slaves working in a Russian troll factory.

Russia isn't the bad country that the media portrays it to be. Constant false flags and media demonization has so many people here in the UK believe the muh Russia excuse when the establishment loses. Russia is merely resisting international finance and is also protecting Syria and opposing the greater Israel plan and is trying to help defend civilisation from globalism

Everybody drink.

[Chan Island]

Russia isn't the bad country that the media portrays it to be. Constant false flags and media demonization has so many people here in the UK believe the muh Russia excuse when the establishment loses. Russia is merely resisting international finance and is also protecting Syria and opposing the greater Israel plan and is trying to help defend civilisation from globalism

Everybody drink.

*opens Strongbow*

*takes massive gulp*

*shares can around*

Twitter exploding with messages from ultranationalistic SuperBrits which are really wage slaves working in a Russian troll factory.

Russia isn't the bad country that the media portrays it to be. Constant false flags and media demonization has so many people here in the UK believe the muh Russia excuse when the establishment loses. Russia is merely resisting international finance and is also protecting Syria and opposing the greater Israel plan and is trying to help defend civilisation from globalism

Russia isn't a bad country. It's just a country who's own self-interest is often directly opposed to the self-interest of many western countries, and it has both the will and capabilities to use the weaknesses of the West to their own advantage.

There, is that better?

Fucking do it, double down, elections for days.

STRONG AND STABLE.

Have another election AND another referendum.

MAXIMUM VOTING

HELLS YES.

[Hurdergaryp]

Russia isn't the bad country that the media portrays it to be. Constant false flags and media demonization has so many people here in the UK believe the muh Russia excuse when the establishment loses. Russia is merely resisting international finance and is also protecting Syria and opposing the greater Israel plan and is trying to help defend civilisation from globalism

Did you really just respond to a message about Russian trolls with that?

Of course he did. The Kremlin should hire him in order to contribute to their ongoing disinformation campaign, so he can make a career as a professional fellow traveller.

[Vooperias]

The last one

Having proceeded to waste a 25+ point lead over the opposition and end up losing said majority, she has given the nation repeated assurances that she is "not owned, not owned" and stayed in power by negotiating a deal with the DUP, a party with "eccentric" views. This has lead to fun questions such as "does this violate the Good Friday Agreement", "did we just waste our first months of Brexit negotations on making our government even more unstable" and "did we seriously just pledge to spend £1.5bn pretty much entirely to prop up a government that couldn't get into power otherwise", all of which and more you will be able to discuss in the latest incarnation of the exciting UK Politics Thread. (For the record, my answers are "maybe", "yes" and "yes".))

Folks, welcome to a year later, where these questions still haven't been answered. We're currently contemplating how soon a united Ireland will be possible and the UK is still no closer to Brexit. Yet the strong and stable ship just keeps on chugging. Soft Brexit, hard Brexit, who cares? Brexit means Brexit. Every parliamentarian and their uncle seems to have their own vision for what this will look like, but most of their plans appear to fall under the assumption that the EU will graciously accept any deal they cook up, which seems unlikely.

But enough about that. Evictions! What would the Tories be without them, eh? Or cutthroat leadership challenges. Can't believe its two whole years ago since Gove and Johnson fucked up, maybe they'll try again. I've got so say, I'm impressed May has held on for so long, given all the fuckups.

why do they all stand like this

Corbyn on the other hand is looking more or less secure, if a bit uninteresting at present.I hope this means he'll nationalize the banks.

With that, have fun going round in the same circles the country has been going since last June, hopefully you'll figure it out someday.

totally agree

[Dumb Ideologies]

New Brexit Strategy:

Appoint Noel Edmonds as chief negotiator. Put our red lines in 22 identical boxes and open them at random, provisionally giving up on whatever is in the box. Every few boxes, Noel speaks to Juncker, but before Noel can finish explaining the offer, the ERG shouts "no deal". The audience of Express and Mail journalists cheer, and Noel is effusive about the brilliant strategy of "Rees-Mogg's game". At the end, we open the box in front of us and find out that the economy is now worth 1p. Everyone applauds.

[The New California Republic]

New Brexit Strategy:

Appoint Noel Edmonds as chief negotiator. Put our red lines in 22 identical boxes and open them at random, provisionally giving up on whatever is in the box. Every few boxes, Noel speaks to Juncker, but before Noel can finish explaining the offer, the ERG shouts "no deal". The audience of Express and Mail journalists cheer, and Noel is effusive about the brilliant strategy of "Rees-Mogg's game". At the end, we open the box in front of us and find out that the economy is now worth 1p. Everyone applauds.

[Chan Island]

New Brexit Strategy:

Appoint Noel Edmonds as chief negotiator. Put our red lines in 22 identical boxes and open them at random, provisionally giving up on whatever is in the box. Every few boxes, Noel speaks to Juncker, but before Noel can finish explaining the offer, the ERG shouts "no deal". The audience of Express and Mail journalists cheer, and Noel is effusive about the brilliant strategy of "Rees-Mogg's game". At the end, we open the box in front of us and find out that the economy is now worth 1p. Everyone applauds.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I'm convinced I heard someone on the BBC news channel, last night at about a quarter to nine, saying that we would know by the end of the year whether we would be having food shortages because of Brexit. I'm hoping that was just me dozing off with the TV on.

[The Blaatschapen]

I'm convinced I heard someone on the BBC news channel, last night at about a quarter to nine, saying that we would know by the end of the year whether we would be having food shortages because of Brexit. I'm hoping that was just me dozing off with the TV on.

Don't worry, we'll set up a charity fund over here.

Just get in line behind those third world countries

[Vassenor]

I'm convinced I heard someone on the BBC news channel, last night at about a quarter to nine, saying that we would know by the end of the year whether we would be having food shortages because of Brexit. I'm hoping that was just me dozing off with the TV on.

Yes, that's been floating around for the last couple of months.

[Philjia]

The German translation of the White Paper was gobbledegook, apparently.

[The New California Republic]

I'm convinced I heard someone on the BBC news channel, last night at about a quarter to nine, saying that we would know by the end of the year whether we would be having food shortages because of Brexit. I'm hoping that was just me dozing off with the TV on.

I mentioned the possibility of empty shelves several pages ago, but now I am hoping that I am not correct...

[The Blaatschapen]

I'm convinced I heard someone on the BBC news channel, last night at about a quarter to nine, saying that we would know by the end of the year whether we would be having food shortages because of Brexit. I'm hoping that was just me dozing off with the TV on.

I mentioned the possibility of empty shelves several pages ago, but now I am hoping that I am not correct...

I doubt anyone is hoping that it is correct.

I mean, that would seriously increase local unrest inside Britain, and while I'm not against a bit of schadenfreude, the greater implications are severe enough (government toppling, getting the food by force, etc.) that it won't be funny if it came to pass.