UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

[The Free Joy State]

Tried it twice.

Jeremy Corbyn became prime minister in 11 steps.

And a second referendum in 22 steps (which, amusingly, meant burning through 3 prime ministers... because blood for the blood god XD)

I managed to get to second referendum in 20, so that's probably about average.

That's probably about right. I got a second referendum in 19 steps. I also got us a soft Brexit in 16. Corbyn took 20-something (and two Tory Prime Ministers).

It is weirdly addictive.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Second referendum in 11 steps.

[Dresderstan]

Hard Brexit in 9 steps.

[Trumptonium1]

The U.K. is leaving the EU without any deal at all. Brexiteers raise glasses of English sparkling wine and wave union jacks. Businesses activate emergency plans. Ministers and civil servants scramble to reach side deals with their EU counterparts to keep things functioning. Will it be a chaos of food shortages and grounded flights, as some warned, or will those prove to be laughable scare stories?


— The End —

Cheers! You made it through in 43 steps

Took me 3 elections though, which is nice. Sounds about right as to the number of 180's the conservative party needs to do to find someone half-competent at this point.

Does it show you NI fucking off to join ROI or Scotland saying feck you?

But how would NI leave?

Scotland can go, honestly, all opinion polls show the English want the Scottish to leave more than the Scottish themselves do. England can keep it's oil and Scotland can do its thing without English financial subsidies and with a hard border and everyone wins.

Can't find what I'm looking for but I did find one poll showing overwhelming enthusiasm from England for Scotland to stay (an almighty 59% of English people) but with heavier support for punishing Scotland if they vote to stay (56% for reducing UK public spending on Scotland and 63% for banning Scottish members of parliament from voting on non-Scottish matters). Of course only 29% agreed that England should help Scotland to join NATO.

Unfortunately we still have neither despite UK public approval. Weak politicians of course, face down ass up to placate Scottish whims. But unfortunately there's not a single proper MP nowadays who knows his arse from elbow.

the best way for Sturgeon to win an Independence Referendum is to give the English the vote."

[Proctopeo]

Try this:https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-pick-your-own-brexit/

Hard Brexit in 12 steps.
Sounds like you guys need an American Touch™ to get this over with.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Try this:https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-pick-your-own-brexit/

Hard Brexit in 12 steps.
Sounds like you guys need an American Touch™ to get this over with.

Like your shutdown?

[Proctopeo]

Hard Brexit in 12 steps.
Sounds like you guys need an American Touch™ to get this over with.

Like your shutdown?

I'm not the government. Just put me in charge for half a year and you'll own all of Spain and be out of the European Union.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Like your shutdown?

I'm not the government. Just put me in charge for half a year and you'll own all of Spain and be out of the European Union.

Put me in charge and you'll have open borders and legalised drugs. That should please all the libertarians.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Like your shutdown?

I'm not the government. Just put me in charge for half a year and you'll own all of Spain and be out of the European Union.

Opens Console

add_equipment 1000000 Bob Semple
Instant Construction
Que up 500 Civ factories

[Kavagrad]

The Jam Man in 12 steps, I look forward to visiting Corbyngrad.

[Thermodolia]

Does it show you NI fucking off to join ROI or Scotland saying feck you?

But how would NI leave?

Because more than likely y’all are cruising towards a no deal Brexit which is going to severely break the GFA. Many in NI are starting to view unification with the ROI as a better alternative than the troubles 2.0.

So it’s highly likely that a United Ireland will exist by 2030, if no deal is reached.

Scotland can go, honestly, all opinion polls show the English want the Scottish to leave more than the Scottish themselves do. England can keep it's oil and Scotland can do its thing without English financial subsidies and with a hard border and everyone wins.

Can't find what I'm looking for but I did find one poll showing overwhelming enthusiasm from England for Scotland to stay (an almighty 59% of English people) but with heavier support for punishing Scotland if they vote to stay (56% for reducing UK public spending on Scotland and 63% for banning Scottish members of parliament from voting on non-Scottish matters). Of course only 29% agreed that England should help Scotland to join NATO.

Unfortunately we still have neither despite UK public approval. Weak politicians of course, face down ass up to placate Scottish whims. But unfortunately there's not a single proper MP nowadays who knows his arse from elbow.

the best way for Sturgeon to win an Independence Referendum is to give the English the vote."

You do realize that the majority of y’all oil falls In Scottish hands right? Under the UN law of the sea all of that North Sea oil falls within Scotland’s EEZ.

You are going to have so much fun in a post no deal Brexit world. Scotland and NI are going to bugger off, the Queen is probably die of a old age soon, when she does kick the bucket Australia is going to become a republic, and all you will be left with is England and the sheep lovers.

A no deal Brexit is pretty much the end of the UK as a political entity.

[Thermodolia]

Like your shutdown?

I'm not the government. Just put me in charge for half a year and you'll own all of Spain and be out of the European Union.

Put me in charge and Ireland will be united, Scotland is free, Australia and Canada are both Republics, and England is left all alone as the US, Russia, China says the EU is more attractive

[The Huskar Social Union]

And how would you unite ireland? Because if it involves force in any way your solution can fuck off.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Also NI can leave the UK if a border poll is held and the majority of both NI and the Republic vote for unification.

[Thermodolia]

And how would you unite ireland? Because if it involves force in any way your solution can fuck off.

*opens console*

Release NI
Release Scotland

[Souseiseki]

And how would you unite ireland? Because if it involves force in any way your solution can fuck off.

when you say force do you include, say, the force or the force of love? because i feel like there's still a lot of loopholes here.

[Ifreann]

And how would you unite ireland? Because if it involves force in any way your solution can fuck off.

when you say force do you include, say, the force or the force of love? because i feel like there's still a lot of loopholes here.

The biggest mistake the Planeteers made was sending the fire ring guy to sort out Northern Ireland. They should have sent the kid with the heart ring.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Also NI can leave the UK if a border poll is held and the majority of both NI and the Republic vote for unification.

We just stop recognising its existance. That bit of the map? That's 'the forgotten realm,' we don't know what that is.

[The Huskar Social Union]

when you say force do you include, say, the force or the force of love? because i feel like there's still a lot of loopholes here.

The biggest mistake the Planeteers made was sending the fire ring guy to sort out Northern Ireland. They should have sent the kid with the heart ring.

....... avatar reference?

Also NI can leave the UK if a border poll is held and the majority of both NI and the Republic vote for unification.

We just stop recognising its existance. That bit of the map? That's 'the forgotten realm,' we don't know what that is.

Ill allow it.

And how would you unite ireland? Because if it involves force in any way your solution can fuck off.

when you say force do you include, say, the force or the force of love? because i feel like there's still a lot of loopholes here.

Force of love is okay.

And how would you unite ireland? Because if it involves force in any way your solution can fuck off.

*opens console*

Release NI
Release Scotland

How dare you.

Im the one who makes console command jokes!

[Trumptonium1]

But how would NI leave?

Because more than likely y’all are cruising towards a no deal Brexit which is going to severely break the GFA. Many in NI are starting to view unification with the ROI as a better alternative than the troubles 2.0.

Who are "many in NI"?

Politics in NI is still incredibly tribal, and you're not going to get Protestants to vote for independence.

Moreover, studies from the Scottish independence referendum shows non-nationals, especially the Indian and Polish minorities which make up 4% of Scotland, voted to remain in the UK at larger proportions than even those born in England who moved to Scotland.

So it’s highly likely that a United Ireland will exist by 2030, if no deal is reached.

/y

You do realize that the majority of y’all oil falls In Scottish hands right?

No it doesn't

One of the very few great things that Tony Blair has done is officially move the English sea border upwards to the median line, wherein the English sea border is as far north as to be level with Dundee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_ ... Order_1999

Also the UK has no moral or legal obligation to include "Scotland" as its own administrative definition of Scotland. Orkney and Shetland (which hold Scottish oil EEZ) never wanted to be part of Scotland, voted against devolution for Scotland twice, and voted 2 to 1 against for independence while the country itself was just within a 5% margin. The UK might as well legislate Orkney and Shetland to be their own administrative zone, and end theoretical Scottish jurisdiction. The same can be done to the Scottish Borders areas and maybe even Galloway. These places overwhelmingly voted against Scottish devolution and independence at every step, and refuse to vote for SNP. There's a moral case for separating them from Scotland.

Sea borders are largely bilateral and there's thousands of border disputes around the world to this day, not just in China but even in places like Japan, Norway, Turkey, Poland, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Bulgaria and hundreds of other countries. Scotland is at the whim of whatever England wants to offer it. The current official border of jurisdiction cuts almost exactly halfway between the biggest oil field for England/Scotland. The Netherlands - Britain EEZ border displays this perfectly. The UK also gave up a lot of EEZ area to Norway (with the most oil) in exchange for NATO commitments.

You are going to have so much fun in a post no deal Brexit world. Scotland and NI are going to bugger off,

NI won't, but okay.

the Queen is probably die of a old age soon, when she does kick the bucket Australia is going to become a republic,

Unlikely, but I don't think there's a reason to care. 48% of Australians still support the monarchy to 40% against, but, a bigger problem would be finding the monarchy a new place to live because the biggest problem they'll have is in the UK not abroad, because Prince Charles is about as unliked as you can get for a public figure.

A no deal Brexit is pretty much the end of the UK as a political entity.

Okay?

Without Scotland still bigger than France, luls.

[Ifreann]

The biggest mistake the Planeteers made was sending the fire ring guy to sort out Northern Ireland. They should have sent the kid with the heart ring.

....... avatar reference?

Captain Planet. They had a Northern Ireland episode. You should look it up, they portray Norn Iron as a blasted hellscape of smouldering rubble, with both Catholics and Protestants having nuclear bombs. The day is saved when an American tells everyone to stop fighting.

[Aellex]

You do realize that the majority of y’all oil falls In Scottish hands right? Under the UN law of the sea all of that North Sea oil falls within Scotland’s EEZ.

You are going to have so much fun in a post no deal Brexit world. Scotland and NI are going to bugger off, the Queen is probably die of a old age soon, when she does kick the bucket Australia is going to become a republic, and all you will be left with is England and the sheep lovers.

A no deal Brexit is pretty much the end of the UK as a political entity.

Stop Therm, there is a limit to how much of a Schadenfreude boner you're allowed to induce in people !

[The Huskar Social Union]

....... avatar reference?

Captain Planet. They had a Northern Ireland episode. You should look it up, they portray Norn Iron as a blasted hellscape of smouldering rubble, with both Catholics and Protestants having nuclear bombs. The day is saved when an American tells everyone to stop fighting.

Did it end with a fucking zoom out of everyone clapping hands and patting each other on the back whilst wonder yank stands with a stupid fucking grin on his face with a thumbs up?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

You do realize that the majority of y’all oil falls In Scottish hands right? Under the UN law of the sea all of that North Sea oil falls within Scotland’s EEZ.

You are going to have so much fun in a post no deal Brexit world. Scotland and NI are going to bugger off, the Queen is probably die of a old age soon, when she does kick the bucket Australia is going to become a republic, and all you will be left with is England and the sheep lovers.

A no deal Brexit is pretty much the end of the UK as a political entity.

Stop Therm, there is a limit to how much of a Schadenfreude boner you're allowed to induce in people !

You don't seem to realise that there exist a small amount (of which I am one) of people who believe both in Scottish independence and Brexit.

[Ifreann]

Captain Planet. They had a Northern Ireland episode. You should look it up, they portray Norn Iron as a blasted hellscape of smouldering rubble, with both Catholics and Protestants having nuclear bombs. The day is saved when an American tells everyone to stop fighting.

Did it end with a fucking zoom out of everyone clapping hands and patting each other on the back whilst wonder yank stands with a stupid fucking grin on his face with a thumbs up?

I don't remember, but that sounds plausible.