UK Politics Thread VIII—Can't Let EU Go

[Fartsniffage]

If they can even find anyone to run.

Conservatives hit by candidate shortage for general election because activists 'demoralised' by Theresa May

Is any more reliable outlet reporting this?

I dunno about more reliable but it ties in with what my brothers partner has been saying. He ran for the last 2 council elections in his area as a Tory and he's not doing it again unless things improve with the leadership and down ticket support. And he says that he's not the only one in that position.

[Fartsniffage]

All a bit of fun.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45883411

[The Huskar Social Union]

May is just horrible, from what I can tell.

Cameron was tolerable, as someone not coming from the left. He was the bland-tolerable that Jeb Bush evokes in the US. Not your first choice, but not the worst.

But May, eugh.

May is better in the regard that Cameron packed his bags and fled in terror when the vote didn’t go his way.

"What is it Reginald? Oh we lost.... PEACE OUT BITCHESSSSSSSSSSSSSS"

[Chan Island]

All a bit of fun.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45883411

Zero trips from my MP. Good, good.

[The Huskar Social Union]

All a bit of fun.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45883411

Zero trips from my MP. Good, good.

Same.

Though mine is part of a party that has an abstention policy so makes sense.

[Chan Island]

Zero trips from my MP. Good, good.

Same.

Though mine is part of a party that has an abstention policy so makes sense.

MP so dedicated to their constituency, that they won't even leave it to go to Westminster.

[Major-Tom]

May is just horrible, from what I can tell.

Cameron was tolerable, as someone not coming from the left. He was the bland-tolerable that Jeb Bush evokes in the US. Not your first choice, but not the worst.

But May, eugh.

I think we may be able to agree on what I may say next. That is, I think, when I think of Mrs. May, the first word that comes to mind isn't "evil" or "malice" or "stupid." The first word that comes to my mind is "incompetence," followed by "unprepared," "over one's head," and "ill-prepared."

What we would clearly disagree on is how Corbyn is a pretty rad dude.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Same.

Though mine is part of a party that has an abstention policy so makes sense.

MP so dedicated to their constituency, that they won't even leave it to go to Westminster.

[Eastfield Lodge]

If you were wondering why Nick Clegg's been so quiet recently...

[Ifreann]

If you were wondering why Nick Clegg's been so quiet recently...

Since when is he Sir Clegg?

[Vassenor]

If you were wondering why Nick Clegg's been so quiet recently...

Since when is he Sir Clegg?

As of the 2018 New Years Honours.

[The Huskar Social Union]

If you were wondering why Nick Clegg's been so quiet recently...

Since when is he Sir Clegg?

New Years honour list

[The Huskar Social Union]

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[Ifreann]

: )

Shocking revelation that May couldn't give a shit about the NI parties that aren't propping up her government.

[The Huskar Social Union]

: )

Shocking revelation that May couldn't give a shit about the NI parties that aren't propping up her government.

*pounding noises to the tune of the sash intensify*

[Ostroeuropa]

Another muslim child rape gang, huddersfield this time. They had a bloke go through the list of towns that have had this happen and it took him about half a minute. When are we going to properly discuss these cultures and how they need to change? It stops being an isolated case when it's occurring independently of eachother all over the country. There is something wrong with these cultures, and it becomes even clearer when you bother to remember shit like our troops realizing the people they were training in Afghanistan were raping children like it was normal. Them crossing into our country does not magically make them westernized, and there is zero attempt to make them shape up as a community and make no mistake, it is a problem with their community, just like rape culture in ours, but it hasn't been addressed or curtailed for decades and they are far behind as a result.

A message needs to be sent that part of participating in western society is attempted detoxification of culture and abandonment of harmful social trends and ideas, and if they aren't willing to do that, they aren't welcome here.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Another muslim child rape gang, huddersfield this time. They had a bloke go through the list of towns that have had this happen and it took him about half a minute. When are we going to properly discuss these cultures and how they need to change? It stops being an isolated case when it's occurring independently of eachother all over the country. There is something wrong with these cultures, and it becomes even clearer when you bother to remember shit like our troops realizing the people they were training in Afghanistan were raping children like it was normal. Them crossing into our country does not magically make them westernized, and there is zero attempt to make them shape up as a community and make no mistake, it is a problem with their community, just like rape culture in ours, but it hasn't been addressed or curtailed for decades and they are far behind as a result.

A message needs to be sent that part of participating in western society is attempted detoxification of culture and abandonment of harmful social trends and ideas, and if they aren't willing to do that, they aren't welcome here.

I agree.

You come to the west you need to drop certain aspects of your culture and westernize in regards to those aspects. If not then walk back out that door and go home

[Ostroeuropa]

Another muslim child rape gang, huddersfield this time. They had a bloke go through the list of towns that have had this happen and it took him about half a minute. When are we going to properly discuss these cultures and how they need to change? It stops being an isolated case when it's occurring independently of eachother all over the country. There is something wrong with these cultures, and it becomes even clearer when you bother to remember shit like our troops realizing the people they were training in Afghanistan were raping children like it was normal. Them crossing into our country does not magically make them westernized, and there is zero attempt to make them shape up as a community and make no mistake, it is a problem with their community, just like rape culture in ours, but it hasn't been addressed or curtailed for decades and they are far behind as a result.

A message needs to be sent that part of participating in western society is attempted detoxification of culture and abandonment of harmful social trends and ideas, and if they aren't willing to do that, they aren't welcome here.

I agree.

You come to the west you need to drop certain aspects of your culture and westernize in regards to those aspects. If not then walk back out that door and go home

It's not good enough to start demanding it now because those cultures are already here. We need to crackdown and do something about it. Personally i'd go for comprehensive sex ed, restructuring religious education to include criticism of religion more thoroughly with the goal of pushing either atheist or liberal religion on the students and getting them to reject conservative religion, and banning faith schools. Ban gender segregation, including in religious areas, and so on. Start cracking down, we need policy action.

[Souseiseki]

we're already supreme global kings of going to other countries and telling them what to do. all we need to do is turn that inwards and everything is fixed.

[Vassenor]

Another muslim child rape gang, huddersfield this time. They had a bloke go through the list of towns that have had this happen and it took him about half a minute. When are we going to properly discuss these cultures and how they need to change? It stops being an isolated case when it's occurring independently of eachother all over the country. There is something wrong with these cultures, and it becomes even clearer when you bother to remember shit like our troops realizing the people they were training in Afghanistan were raping children like it was normal. Them crossing into our country does not magically make them westernized, and there is zero attempt to make them shape up as a community and make no mistake, it is a problem with their community, just like rape culture in ours, but it hasn't been addressed or curtailed for decades and they are far behind as a result.

A message needs to be sent that part of participating in western society is attempted detoxification of culture and abandonment of harmful social trends and ideas, and if they aren't willing to do that, they aren't welcome here.

I agree.

You come to the west you need to drop certain aspects of your culture and westernize in regards to those aspects. If not then walk back out that door and go home

Child gang rapes are Islamic culture?

[Fartsniffage]

I agree.

You come to the west you need to drop certain aspects of your culture and westernize in regards to those aspects. If not then walk back out that door and go home

Child gang rapes are Islamic culture?

Well they certainly seem to be part of British Pakistani culture.

The guy I worked with that involved with one was perfectly happy to drink beer and eat bacon butties so I don't think he was all that religious.

[Souseiseki]

I agree.

You come to the west you need to drop certain aspects of your culture and westernize in regards to those aspects. If not then walk back out that door and go home

Child gang rapes are Islamic culture?

different cultures have different ideas and the western world's current views on the exact definitions and consequences of child sexual abuse are their own cultural idea that is not shared globally or historically. hell, half of america thinks the UK is technically a child marriage state with legalized child rape. it's not really controversial to note this.

[Ostroeuropa]

we're already supreme global kings of going to other countries and telling them what to do. all we need to do is turn that inwards and everything is fixed.

There's a difference Sous.
War's abroad means transfering public money to the private corporations involved in the military industrial complex so that's fine.

But investing on assimilation of immigrants and ensuring community cohesion alongside actually attempting to make these cultures more modern transfers public money to public workers, so that's bad, and we'd prefer tax breaks to that obviously and we'll all just pretend vague positive sentiment and occasional media witch hunts are a valid substitute to investment, institutions, policy, and so on, when it comes to racial harmony. Who needs legal aid to fund racial discrimination lawsuits and so on? Just vague sentiment will do! How DARE you suggest it costs actual cash for multiculturalism to work instead of becoming balkanization, you racist.

Plus you've got the cowards who would rather ignore it because it's not white males doing it, alongside the outright ideologues who'd rather do the same ignoring, the whataboutists and so on, and all manner of other shit getting in the way.

You're right, we could do it, but we'd need to deal with the neoliberals, the progressives, and the neoconservatives and their ridiculous governing ideologies first.

[Ostroeuropa]

Child gang rapes are Islamic culture?

Well they certainly seem to be part of British Pakistani culture.

The guy I worked with that involved with one was perfectly happy to drink beer and eat bacon butties so I don't think he was all that religious.

Afghanistan also has the child rape issue.

[Chan Island]

I agree.

You come to the west you need to drop certain aspects of your culture and westernize in regards to those aspects. If not then walk back out that door and go home

It's not good enough to start demanding it now because those cultures are already here. We need to crackdown and do something about it. Personally i'd go for comprehensive sex ed, restructuring religious education to include criticism of religion more thoroughly with the goal of pushing either atheist or liberal religion on the students and getting them to reject conservative religion, and banning faith schools. Ban gender segregation, including in religious areas, and so on. Start cracking down, we need policy action.

Good ideas all around.

Now only to wish for a party that would actually do that without bringing a laundry list of rightwing terrible while at it.