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If a general election were held today who would you vote for?

Conservatives
126
16%
Labour
229
30%
Liberal Democrats
130
17%
Greens
39
5%
UKIP
135
18%
SNP
26
3%
Plaid Cymru
7
1%
Sinn Fein/SDLP
27
4%
DUP/UUP
12
2%
Other
35
5%
 
Total votes : 766

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:49 am

Irish Laren wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah i know its official name and i know it has a large conservative aspect to its political make up, because i am irish.

Dont lecture me.


You just told me otherwise, and i know that you are Irish, your signature says it all

I call it the south, because it is to the south of me, why are you being do fucking pedantic over this?
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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:52 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
You just told me otherwise, and i know that you are Irish, your signature says it all

I call it the south, because it is to the south of me, why are you being do fucking pedantic over this?


Maybe you call the Republic of Ireland like that, but it isn't called like that, and don't swear at me
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Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:53 am

Irish Laren wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I call it the south, because it is to the south of me, why are you being do fucking pedantic over this?


Maybe you call the Republic of Ireland like that, but it isn't called like that, and don't swear at me

Ascend over thine self thusly
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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:55 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Maybe you call the Republic of Ireland like that, but it isn't called like that, and don't swear at me

Ascend over thine self thusly


Excuse me? So you are basically flaming at me because i disagree with you? Just get over it
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History of Irish Laren
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Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:57 am

Irish Laren wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Ascend over thine self thusly


Excuse me? So you are basically flaming at me because i disagree with you? Just get over it

lol what?

You are the one who needs to get over yourself, you are getting so worked up over me calling the republic to the south, which i do because its to the south of me, funnily enough. This is a complete non issue that you are getting annoyed over, and im not wasting any more time on it.

Also thats not even flaming. See if you think it is, then report it to the mods.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:59 am

Beer sales restricted because of CO2 shortage

Outrageous, the government must fall!
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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:01 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Excuse me? So you are basically flaming at me because i disagree with you? Just get over it

lol what?

You are the one who needs to get over yourself, you are getting so worked up over me calling the republic to the south, which i do because its to the south of me, funnily enough. This is a complete non issue that you are getting annoyed over, and im not wasting any more time on it.

Also thats not even flaming. See if you think it is, then report it to the mods.


You called me "fucking padentic", and Belfast-Dublin goes to south, but that doesn't mean the Republic of Ireland is not called the south or Southern Ireland, That's like when i am saying Southern Netherlands to Belgium, and don't tell me what to do
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History of Irish Laren
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Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:01 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Beer sales restricted because of CO2 shortage

Outrageous, the government must fall!

This is the greatest challenge facing the British people, complete and utter collapse is upon them if this is not fixed!
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:03 am

Irish Laren wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:lol what?

You are the one who needs to get over yourself, you are getting so worked up over me calling the republic to the south, which i do because its to the south of me, funnily enough. This is a complete non issue that you are getting annoyed over, and im not wasting any more time on it.

Also thats not even flaming. See if you think it is, then report it to the mods.


You called me "fucking padentic", and Belfast-Dublin goes to south, but that doesn't mean the Republic of Ireland is not called the south or Southern Ireland, That's like when i am saying Southern Netherlands to Belgium, and don't tell me what to do

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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:04 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Beer sales restricted because of CO2 shortage

Outrageous, the government must fall!


Wait a sec, how is that possible that the beer sales get restricted because of CO2 shortage? I mean, these two are totally different thing
Catholic
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History of Irish Laren
Political Parties
Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:06 am

Irish Laren wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Beer sales restricted because of CO2 shortage

Outrageous, the government must fall!


Wait a sec, how is that possible that the beer sales get restricted because of CO2 shortage? I mean, these two are totally different thing


You need CO2 to pump lager out of the barrel.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:09 am

Ifreann wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Ahum, it's called the Republic, and there are Irish people who want the Republic of Ireland to leave the EU

About twenty, maybe.


Republic of Ireland, 120% more democratic then the democratic republic of North Korea. :p
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:09 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Beer sales restricted because of CO2 shortage

Outrageous, the government must fall!

Fear not, good people of Britain, most big name brewers will be able to maintain supply.
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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:11 am

Ifreann wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Ahum, it's called the Republic, and there are Irish people who want the Republic of Ireland to leave the EU

About twenty, maybe.


I was thinking about that too, twenty percent or something
Catholic
I do not use NS stats
History of Irish Laren
Political Parties
Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:12 am

Irish Laren wrote:
Ifreann wrote:About twenty, maybe.


I was thinking about that too, twenty percent or something

No, twenty people.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:15 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Wait a sec, how is that possible that the beer sales get restricted because of CO2 shortage? I mean, these two are totally different thing


You need CO2 to pump lager out of the barrel.


Bah. Hand-pulled booze or bust.
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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:16 am

Ifreann wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
I was thinking about that too, twenty percent or something

No, twenty people.


Ah okay, and according to wikipedia, only 10-13% want Ireland to leave the EU, and 80% to remain. But the future may change, we've seen it in the UK, at the beginning they wanted to remain in the EU, and now they want to leave it
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History of Irish Laren
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Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:16 am

Irish Laren wrote:
Ifreann wrote:About twenty, maybe.


I was thinking about that too, twenty percent or something


Got any sources for that figure?
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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:17 am

Vassenor wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
I was thinking about that too, twenty percent or something


Got any sources for that figure?


The source is on my response to Ifreann :D
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Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:20 am

Irish Laren wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, twenty people.


Ah okay, and according to wikipedia, only 10-13% want Ireland to leave the EU, and 80% to remain. But the future may change, we've seen it in the UK, at the beginning they wanted to remain in the EU, and now they want to leave it


Mostly because we're demonstrating what an utterly stupid idea it is.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:25 am

Vassenor wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Ah okay, and according to wikipedia, only 10-13% want Ireland to leave the EU, and 80% to remain. But the future may change, we've seen it in the UK, at the beginning they wanted to remain in the EU, and now they want to leave it


Mostly because we're demonstrating what an utterly stupid idea it is.


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Postby Irish Laren » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:26 am

Vassenor wrote:
Irish Laren wrote:
Ah okay, and according to wikipedia, only 10-13% want Ireland to leave the EU, and 80% to remain. But the future may change, we've seen it in the UK, at the beginning they wanted to remain in the EU, and now they want to leave it


Mostly because we're demonstrating what an utterly stupid idea it is.


It's actually not, the problem is that the EU is constantly moving from Brussels to Strasbourg and back once in a month and wants to decide over it's members (like Poland and Hungary wants to secure their borders, and the EU is threatening them and also forcing it's members to take thousands of illegal immigrants in their countries
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History of Irish Laren
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Independent: The leader of the now banned group called "Feck the Brits" called for a civil war in Irish Laren if the President doesn't uplift the ban and ban all the British people and everything British. Which got him arrested just an hour ago and President Dave Hagen reacted to this by saying: "We do not accept such threats simply because they doesn't like the UK, we had a harsh past, but after all, the UK and Ireland are both trade partners of Irish Laren, even when Irish Laren was under British rule", the INP condemns the ant-British group and supports the President

No stereotypes about Irish Laren and Ireland please!
If ya wanna attack me personally then leave me alone

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:31 am

Irish Laren wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Mostly because we're demonstrating what an utterly stupid idea it is.


It's actually not, the problem is that the EU is constantly moving from Brussels to Strasbourg and back once in a month and wants to decide over it's members (like Poland and Hungary wants to secure their borders, and the EU is threatening them and also forcing it's members to take thousands of illegal immigrants in their countries


Funny how the criticism always boils down to BUT IMMIGRANTS.
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Postby Modern Skepticism » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:32 am

Incompetent tyranny if you stay in the EU government, incompetent tyranny if you stay out.

Some care about personal liberty (which seems to be anathema to both governments anyhow. Just look at the surveillance laws and the recent internet law upcoming on the EU floor) some care about sovereignty despite being nowhere near to being econimically and politically independent on the international scale thanks to excessive free trade and US interference, and some care about the money and only the money and there is nothing but the money (all hail our god The Economy!)

But really, is it just me or is the UK now another European backwater that still thinks it’s relevant to the world at large?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:33 am

Modern Skepticism wrote:Incompetent tyranny if you stay in the EU government, incompetent tyranny if you stay out.

Some care about personal liberty (which seems to be anathema to both governments anyhow. Just look at the surveillance laws), some care about sovereignty despite being nowhere near to being econimically and politically independent on the international scale thanks to excessive free trade and US interference, and some care about the money and only the money and there is nothing but the money (all hail our god The Economy!)

But really, is it just me or is the UK now another European backwater that still thinks it’s relevant to the world at large?


It pretty much is. We've been a bird riding on the back of the American elephant picking off flies for years.
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