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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:49 pm

Puldania wrote:
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It's a REALLY great feeling knowing the dems lost.

I know right?
I just can't wait until America gets a taste of proper Leftism, now that Centrist Democrats have learned they need to radicalize.


Leftism? :rofl:
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:50 pm

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one of the worst to grace the planet?

I'm sorry...what? " Looks at histories leaders"

...what?

Really, even objectively he's within the bottom 10%.


I'm just...not going to take your arguments seriously based on only a few posts in with you.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:50 pm

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Puldania wrote:Of course not, you're probably white.


And you are obviously racist. *nod*

Am I discriminating against you in any way based on race?
Am I wrong in assuming that you are white?
Am I wrong in thinking so considering white rural americans are/were Trump's primary base?
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:51 pm

Puldania wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
And you are obviously racist. *nod*

Am I discriminating against you in any way based on race?
Am I wrong in assuming that you are white?
Am I wrong in thinking so considering white rural americans are/were Trump's primary base?


wow, you going to start assuming genders to? :roll:
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:51 pm

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Puldania wrote:I know right?
I just can't wait until America gets a taste of proper Leftism, now that Centrist Democrats have learned they need to radicalize.


Leftism? :rofl:

not to be confused with Liberalism, of course. We wouldn't want any more of that garbage, now would we?
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:52 pm

Puldania wrote:
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And you are obviously racist. *nod*

Am I discriminating against you in any way based on race?
Am I wrong in assuming that you are white?
Am I wrong in thinking so considering white rural americans are/were Trump's primary base?


You brought race into it, not I.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:52 pm

Puldania wrote:
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Leftism? :rofl:

not to be confused with Liberalism, of course. We wouldn't want any more of that garbage, now would we?


We don't want that leftist garbage either.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:52 pm

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Puldania wrote:Am I discriminating against you in any way based on race?
Am I wrong in assuming that you are white?
Am I wrong in thinking so considering white rural americans are/were Trump's primary base?


wow, you going to start assuming genders to? :roll:

I alread assume genders by using "they" as the default pronoun for every individual I meet.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:53 pm

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Puldania wrote:not to be confused with Liberalism, of course. We wouldn't want any more of that garbage, now would we?


We don't want that leftist garbage either.

> says a rightist

Okay gramps.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:53 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Puldania wrote:Am I discriminating against you in any way based on race?
Am I wrong in assuming that you are white?
Am I wrong in thinking so considering white rural americans are/were Trump's primary base?


You brought race into it, not I.

Don't act like race isn't a key part in any part of Trump's politics.

Don't be obtuse, it's unbecoming.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:54 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Trump is to me disgusting.
The polls are accurate, but the media is still heavily biased.

My concern is how the growing number of elections is focusing on white vs nonwhite.
Minorities vote far more than white people do. Though if Trump keeps messing up and proving how incompetent he is, he may lose the popular vote by 40 million by those who decided to vote against him instead of staying out as normal.
Then a good deal of Republicans will cry "ILLEGALS!" "OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT FOR THIS RIGGED ELECTION!" etc., like a lot of been threatening to do so wherever I look.


He doesn't keep messing up though. In fact, just the opposite.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:55 pm

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Puldania wrote:I alread assume genders by using "they" as the default pronoun for every individual I meet.

The trans people I do that too get pissed.
Then again, it was high school...

And Oregon...

Really? That's never happened to me. I know Trans folks dislike "it" but "they" is considered to be a mostly acceptable default..?
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:55 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:Trump is to me disgusting.
The polls are accurate, but the media is still heavily biased.

My concern is how the growing number of elections is focusing on white vs nonwhite.
Minorities vote far more than white people do. Though if Trump keeps messing up and proving how incompetent he is, he may lose the popular vote by 40 million by those who decided to vote against him instead of staying out as normal.
Then a good deal of Republicans will cry "ILLEGALS!" "OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT FOR THIS RIGGED ELECTION!" etc., like a lot of been threatening to do so wherever I look.


well when all white people who voted for Trump are looked at like nazi sympathizers(even being called nazis) yeah, race starts to become affected.

The greatest recruiting advertisement for actual legit white supremacists are the left.
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:57 pm

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He doesn't keep messing up though. In fact, just the opposite.

That is laughable.
I'm not going to focus on trying to change your mind because let's face it, you won't. I've accepted that already. Just you specifically.

Instead, I'm going to ask if they do what I said if the election goes as I predicted as a possibility...

Are you going to be complicit with overthrowing Democracy?
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I figured leftists and liberals already overthrew democracy after they voted for Hillary knowing she rigged the DNC but whatever :roll:
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:57 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Trump is to me disgusting.
The polls are accurate, but the media is still heavily biased.

My concern is how the growing number of elections is focusing on white vs nonwhite.
Minorities vote far more than white people do. Though if Trump keeps messing up and proving how incompetent he is, he may lose the popular vote by 40 million by those who decided to vote against him instead of staying out as normal.
Then a good deal of Republicans will cry "ILLEGALS!" "OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT FOR THIS RIGGED ELECTION!" etc., like a lot of been threatening to do so wherever I look.


well when all white people who voted for Trump are looked at like nazi sympathizers(even being called nazis) yeah, race starts to become affected.

The greatest recruiting advertisement for actual legit white supremacists are the left.

If ideologies of total equality cause you to be interested in white supremacy, you never would've been on the left to begin with.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:58 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
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well when all white people who voted for Trump are looked at like nazi sympathizers(even being called nazis) yeah, race starts to become affected.

The greatest recruiting advertisement for actual legit white supremacists are the left.

No doubt. I could be considered a member of the left, but I agree to an extent.

God, I hate American Politics. Both sides have become to me, Unchristian.

To a certain extent, unhuman, as well.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:58 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
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I figured leftists and liberals already overthrew democracy after they voted for Hillary knowing she rigged the DNC but whatever :roll:

They still lost.
Though, that is debated whether she did it-I am inclined to believe she did though, to an extent.

Still, I'm talking about a bloody civil war.

I'm still baffled one hasn't happened already.
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:59 pm

Puldania wrote:
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well when all white people who voted for Trump are looked at like nazi sympathizers(even being called nazis) yeah, race starts to become affected.

The greatest recruiting advertisement for actual legit white supremacists are the left.

If ideologies of total equality cause you to be interested in white supremacy, you never would've been on the left to begin with.


what? im regfeering to all kind of politics involving white people.

the attitude of "white are bad, colonizing neo-nazi devils" is exactly why things are getting more polarized.

I am a gay republican and all my gay "freinds" called me a gay traitor and a gay nazi, fuck em.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:00 pm

Kash Island wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:That is laughable.
I'm not going to focus on trying to change your mind because let's face it, you won't. I've accepted that already. Just you specifically.

Instead, I'm going to ask if they do what I said if the election goes as I predicted as a possibility...

Are you going to be complicit with overthrowing Democracy?
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I figured leftists and liberals already overthrew democracy after they voted for Hillary knowing she rigged the DNC but whatever :roll:

Liberals supported Hillary. Leftists saw her as a preferable alternative to Trump, albeit begrudgingly.

Sanders would've been good as a diet Leftism candidate to serve as a gateway drug for America.
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Postby Nihon koku » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:02 pm

I do not see Trump being impeached, but I do not think he will run for second term or be supported by his party even if he tried.

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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:02 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Puldania wrote:To a certain extent, unhuman, as well.

Don't flame please.

But if you mean unempathetic, I agree, to a degree, but won't condemn both sides specifically, but some members of each group are.

To me the modern USA is Rome, Hillary is Catalina, and Trump is Crassus.

I kinda agree with that?
I don't know if there are really any historical examples that could quite portray the utter state of American politics right now.
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Postby Kash Island » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:02 pm

A MASSIVE problem with todays politics is simply this.

You only have two parties that have set themselves up to be the only capable parties(making it harder for other parties to succeed as well on purpose)

so this forces this situation


Democrats: Communists, Modern Liberals, Islamic Extremists, Centrists, etc etc
Republicans: Fascists, White supremacists, Classic Liberals, Conservatives etc etc etc

This is a HUGE problem. To many ideas under only 2 tents.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:02 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Puldania wrote:Liberals supported Hillary. Leftists saw her as a preferable alternative to Trump, albeit begrudgingly.

Sanders would've been good as a diet Leftism candidate to serve as a gateway drug for America.

That "Diet" leftism candidate is the farthest left candidate I'd ever go, and even then reluctantly.

Then you're probably a Centrist, not a Leftist.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:03 pm

Kash Island wrote:A MASSIVE problem with todays politics is simply this.

You only have two parties that have set themselves up to be the only capable parties(making it harder for other parties to succeed as well on purpose)

so this forces this situation


Democrats: Communists, Modern Liberals, Islamic Extremists, Centrists, etc etc
Republicans: Fascists, White supremacists, Classic Liberals, Conservatives etc etc etc

This is a HUGE problem. To many ideas under only 2 tents.

Islamic Extremists would agree more with Republicans were it not for rightist Islamophobia.
Implying ISIS would be a democrat is f*cking hilarious.
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Postby Puldania » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:04 pm

Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Puldania wrote:I kinda agree with that?
I don't know if there are really any historical examples that could quite portray the utter state of American politics right now.

Hillary is either that or Bibilus.
Maybe Cato, at most.

Obama was Cicero or Julius Caesar, ironically.

I'd prefer a mediocre leader to what we have now.
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