US immigration breaking up families

[The Parkus Empire]

Jacobin, your opinions on killing rich people and those in government has been clear in the past, therefore you obviously support it across the board.

My opinions on killing the uncooperative in a revolution and overthrowing oppressive governments haven't changed, despite your attempts to portray me as an anarchist.

t. Lenin

[Conserative Morality]

My opinions on killing the uncooperative in a revolution and overthrowing oppressive governments haven't changed, despite your attempts to portray me as an anarchist.

t. Lenin

The only part of that I object to is that I'm more of a Kerensky supporter.

[Ifreann]

It's edgy to think that a Nazi soldier was a piece of shit?

Weird.

Actually, he wasn't. The country he was fighting for was run by one. But he wasn't.

It is perfectly accurate to refer to the soldiers of Nazi Germany as Nazi soldiers, regardless of your great-grandfathers personal beliefs. And to forestall further threadjacking, I don't especially care what those beliefs were.

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I'm sure there are problems with foster care in America, because there are problems with everything in America, but foster care isn't jail, isn't prison, and isn't a tent city in Texas in the summer.

That's correct, children charged with crimes are typically sent to different accommodations.

And the children Trump is having detained at the border aren't being charged with crimes.

[The Parkus Empire]

Does the U.S. really need more people already being crammed into its bloated cities?

Malthusianism is such a stale old meme.

Yes and no. On a major scale, yes, but obviously producing children you can't support, will have harmful repercussions. On a micro level, it can hold true.

[Benuty]

Apparently, context is dead so therefore I will increase this to the maximum size, and leave this for those who are the treasured alumni of the school of assumption.

"I'm not a Nazi, I'm just fighting for Nazis"

What a huge difference.

You would literally destroy the Roman republic in just a single term as consul....so I don't think you have room to judge.

[The Parkus Empire]

And the children Trump is having detained at the border aren't being charged with crimes.

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

[Benuty]

And the children Trump is having detained at the border aren't being charged with crimes.

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

No, it would be harsh if we just dumped them in the Darien gap, and left them to die.

[San Lumen]

And the children Trump is having detained at the border aren't being charged with crimes.

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

How about not being Nazi like and not separating them therefore sparing traumatizing these innocent children and giving them nightmares and affecting their well being?

[Torrocca]

"I'm not a Nazi, I'm just fighting for Nazis"

What a huge difference.

Fighting for Nazi Germany.

Defending his country even though he disagreed with it.

Nazis were disgusting. What they did was abominable. What my great grandfather did was neither.

Did he ever tell you what role he took on during the war (infantryman, engineer, medic, etc.)? That'd give a better idea of figuring out things; AFAIK, the rear echelon troops of Nazi Germany were generally worse in regards to war crimes than the frontline combat troops.

[The Parkus Empire]

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

No, it would be harsh if we just dumped them in the Darien gap, and left them to die.

Your standards of harsh, Benuty, have become calloused and cold, like rough feet stuck with a short blanket.

[The Parkus Empire]

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

How about not being Nazi like and not separating them therefore sparing traumatizing these innocent children and giving them nightmares and affecting their well being?

Incarceration always involves separation. Maybe there should be visits arranged? If that is what you're suggesting, I agree.

[Ifreann]

And the children Trump is having detained at the border aren't being charged with crimes.

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

If only there was some course of action here that wasn't harsh.

Like letting families detained near the border stay together.

If only that could be possible.

[The Parkus Empire]

That's correct, because that would seem a bit harsh here. We could of course simply send them back to Mexico alone, but that would be even harsher.

If only there was some course of action here that wasn't harsh.

Like letting families detained near the border stay together.

If only that could be possible.

If you want to completely revise how our country handles incarcerations. Normally we segregate men from women, and adults from children.

[Conserative Morality]

Fighting for Nazi Germany.

Defending his country even though he disagreed with it.

Nazis were disgusting. What they did was abominable. What my great grandfather did was neither.

Again the "Disagreement" line.

"I disagree with murdering Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals en masse... but I'll still fight for lebensraum!"

Tell me more about how invading other countries is defending your own.

No one wants to think bad of people they care about, but that doesn't change facts.

[Benuty]

No, it would be harsh if we just dumped them in the Darien gap, and left them to die.

Your standards of harsh, Benuty, have become calloused and cold, like rough feet stuck with a short blanket.

Tends to happen when you have the greater good in mind.

[Conserative Morality]

If you want to completely revise how our country handles incarcerations. Normally we segregate men from women, and adults from children.

You know, before a few weeks ago, it was policy to detain those caught crossing the border illegally, rather than throwing them in the Federal clink.

But I guess it's more trouble to change a policy of six weeks than sixteen years. Six weeks is a much stronger tradition, because it hurts people more. That's what it's all about, after all.

[The Parkus Empire]

Your standards of harsh, Benuty, have become calloused and cold, like rough feet stuck with a short blanket.

Tends to happen when you have the greater good in mind.

Isn't that the truth, though?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY

[Torrocca]

Fighting for Nazi Germany.

Defending his country even though he disagreed with it.

Nazis were disgusting. What they did was abominable. What my great grandfather did was neither.

Again the "Disagreement" line.

"I disagree with murdering Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals en masse... but I'll still fight for lebensraum!"

Tell me more about how invading other countries is defending your own.

No one wants to think bad of people they care about, but that doesn't change facts.

I was gonna say that maybe he was Volkssturm, but then again, he got injured in Russia.

[The Parkus Empire]

If you want to completely revise how our country handles incarcerations. Normally we segregate men from women, and adults from children.

You know, before a few weeks ago, it was policy to detain those caught crossing the border illegally, rather than throwing them in the Federal clink.

But I guess it's more trouble to change a policy of six weeks than sixteen years. Six weeks is a much stronger tradition, because it hurts people more. That's what it's all about, after all.

Certainly, that's what deterrent is all about. There is, as it stands, not a very strong incentive not to cross illegally. California is offering sanctuary and protection from the Federal government to anyone who makes it across, and several times illegal immigrants have been granted amnesty en masse. There is, as it stands, enormous incentive to cross illegally, hence an increase in the deterrent.

[Ifreann]

If only there was some course of action here that wasn't harsh.

Like letting families detained near the border stay together.

If only that could be possible.

If you want to completely revise how our country handles incarcerations. Normally we segregate men from women, and adults from children.

Or the President could just tell CBP to let families detained near the border stay together.

[Ifreann]

You know, before a few weeks ago, it was policy to detain those caught crossing the border illegally, rather than throwing them in the Federal clink.

But I guess it's more trouble to change a policy of six weeks than sixteen years. Six weeks is a much stronger tradition, because it hurts people more. That's what it's all about, after all.

Certainly, that's what deterrent is all about. There is, as it stands, not a very strong incentive not to cross illegally. California is offering sanctuary and protection from the Federal government to anyone who makes it across, and several times illegal immigrants have been granted amnesty en masse. There is, as it stands, enormous incentive to cross illegally, hence an increase in the deterrent.

Don't forget that in addition to "deterrence" Trump is holding these kids hostage to try and get the Democrats to vote to fund his wall.

[San Lumen]

Anyone defending this barbarism needs to watch this. I could not say it better myself. If a Holocaust survivor is calling the actions of this administration Nazi like then they are.

ICE and Border Patrol should be defying orders to separate families and place children in interment camp like faculties

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/03/2 ... m-sot.kovr

[Ifreann]

Anyone defending this barbarism needs to watch this. I could not say it better myself. If a Holocaust survivor is calling the actions of this administration Nazi like then they are.

ICE and Border Patrol should be defying orders to separate families and place children in interment camp like faculties

Which they won't do, for reason including, but not limited to, the fact that a lot of them are probably loving running these concentration camps.

[San Lumen]

Anyone defending this barbarism needs to watch this. I could not say it better myself. If a Holocaust survivor is calling the actions of this administration Nazi like then they are.

ICE and Border Patrol should be defying orders to separate families and place children in interment camp like faculties

Which they won't do, for reason including, but not limited to, the fact that a lot of them are probably loving running these concentration camps.

Which is probably true considering their are recordings of them mocking and laughing at crying children having nightmares and being unable to eat and locked in cages.

[Geneviev]

Fighting for Nazi Germany.

Defending his country even though he disagreed with it.

Nazis were disgusting. What they did was abominable. What my great grandfather did was neither.

Again the "Disagreement" line.

"I disagree with murdering Jews, gypsies, and homosexuals en masse... but I'll still fight for lebensraum!"

Tell me more about how invading other countries is defending your own.

No one wants to think bad of people they care about, but that doesn't change facts.

Nazi Germany was run by good liars. He did the wrong thing with good intentions. He disagreed but he believed that it was better for his country and his family. Because the Nazis lied.