US immigration breaking up families

[Greater Miami Shores]

Were their children separated from their families and held in detention centers under President Obama, yes or no?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/18/liber ... detention/

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/unde ... he-border/

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/the-same ... n-centers/

No, this goes back to the Clinton Admistration. And interestingly enough, the Obama Admin held more than double the number of children in these facilities. This only now became an issue because Trump is president.

The great deporter in Chief Obama, deported when he felt like it politically and un deported when he felt like it politically and deported when he felt like it politically, lol.

[Conserative Morality]

Oh? In that case I suppose we shouldn't be experiencing severe labor shortages even with places offering up to double minimum wage! Thanks for informing reality that it's wrong.

Severe labor shortages? Which sectors? I'm mailing in job applications now, tell me where else I can send them.

https://tucson.com/business/marana-farm ... c8489.html

Nationwide, there are two jobs available in agriculture for every new job seeker, according to industry experts and more than half of all farm workers are unauthorized to work in the U.S., the National Agricultural Worker Survey shows.

This is nothing new

https://www.wsj.com/articles/on-u-s-far ... 1439371802

[Conserative Morality]

Were their children separated from their families and held in detention centers under President Obama, yes or no?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/18/liber ... detention/

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/unde ... he-border/

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/the-same ... n-centers/

No, this goes back to the Clinton Admistration. And interestingly enough, the Obama Admin held more than double the number of children in these facilities. This only now became an issue because Trump is president.

The great deporter in Chief Obama, deported when he felt like it politically and un deported when he felt like it politically and deported when he felt like it politically, lol.

This has already been addressed a dozen fucking times in this thread, but whatever you need to do to get off, man, I'm not judging your hate-boner.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Were their children separated from their families and held in detention centers under President Obama, yes or no?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/18/liber ... detention/

http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/unde ... he-border/

http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/the-same ... n-centers/

No, this goes back to the Clinton Admistration. And interestingly enough, the Obama Admin held more than double the number of children in these facilities. This only now became an issue because Trump is president.

The great deporter in Chief Obama, deported when he felt like it politically and un deported when he felt like it politically and deported when he felt like it politically, lol.

This has already been addressed a dozen fucking times in this thread, but whatever you need to do to get off, man, I'm not judging your hate-boner.

It is your right to critize, it is my right to bring it up with my own twists, views and comments, I am asking a direct question? If this was done under President Obama, than Obama should be critized too, but the leftist fake news media, yes the leftist fake news media and the outrage is portraying this as only done under President Trump, thank you for not judging my hate boner, lol.

[Liriena]

the leftist fake news media

As we all know, the New York Times is a bastion of Maoist thought.

[Galloism]

Yeppers. It's even more pronounced with minority men (black men in particular, although I would suspect in the current political environment, those from Mexico and Latin America would definitely get similar treatment).

That's... depressingly unsurprising.

Not a criticism of you at all, but it frustrates me that fathers groups have been screaming about this issue for years when it comes to our own citizens, with a collective yawn from the public and the press.

But when the exact same damn thing happens to an illegal immigrant, everyone loses their mind at the injustice of it all.

[Eclius]

I'm not an expert in this, so in case I make mistakes, please do correct me. So, are children being taken away partly because United States recognize birthright citizenship? So in a nutshell, the children are essentially US citizens, but their parents aren't?

Not exactly, no. In the cases being reported, non-citizen children are being separated from non-citizen parents. Because sticking children in adult holding facilities is usually impractical.

But then what happens if a child was born on US soil and is therefore a US citizen? (parents aren't)

[Nihon koku]

Were their children separated from their families and held in detention centers under President Obama, yes or no?

Well yes, this has been verified numerous time.

Looks like Trump is the one to put an end to it, or at least sign an order to that end.

[Mystic Warriors]

Very telling how hard right wingers are trying to defend trump on his evil policy enforcement, while deflecting it to the left. Its evil no matter who does it.

[Mystic Warriors]

Were their children separated from their families and held in detention centers under President Obama, yes or no?

Well yes, this has been verified numerous time.

Looks like Trump is the one to put an end to it, or at least sign an order to that end.

How so?

[Rio Cana]

Seems the order has been given for children to not be separated from there parents. Seems public outcry helped change the ruling.

Since the start of this year, 11000 kids had been separated from there parents.

[Firaxin]

Seems the order has been given for children to not be separated from there parents. Seems public outcry helped change the ruling.

So the kids are being sent away with their parents now, right?

[Greater Miami Shores]

the leftist fake news media

This post is apparently withdrawn due to technical browser problems,cant self delete.

[Rio Cana]

Seems the order has been given for children to not be separated from there parents. Seems public outcry helped change the ruling.

So the kids are being sent away with their parents now, right?

Yes. If the parents are in detention for a couple of years then the kids will also be there in detention along side there parents. US needs to hire more immigration judges in order to quicky process these people.

[Nihon koku]

Well yes, this has been verified numerous time.

Looks like Trump is the one to put an end to it, or at least sign an order to that end.

How so?

News reported he signed an executive order to put an end to the long-standing issue that while reported on for some reason was politically ignored until he was president.

[Greater Miami Shores]

the leftist fake news media

As we all know, the New York Times is a bastion of Maoist thought.

Yes it is Liriena my friend, just ask an anti social, anti democratic, gusano worm, escoria scum, hardline intransigent Cuban American Miami Mafia element like myself, we know from experience, I love the cute dogs and cats on your flag.

[Bombadil]

This Executive Order highlights the issue here, it effectively means the children stay with their families.. in jail.. which can only last 20 days before they need to be released.

It's testament to Trump's shallow understanding that he's made a huge noise about an intractable issue, he can't solve it and it will haunt his administration. What will happen when those 20 days are up?

He's stuck with an issue he made.

[The Parkus Empire]

Preferably by citizens who need jobs.

U.S citizens don't want the jobs that immigrants are willing to do.

Then we need to completely cut off unemployment coverage. Also this explains the vagrancy problems, all along I thought I was giving to the needy, now I find they're just bums who refuse to work

[San Lumen]

This Executive Order highlights the issue here, it effectively means the children stay with their families.. in jail.. which can only last 20 days before they need to be released.

It's testament to Trump's shallow understanding that he's made a huge noise about an intractable issue, he can't solve it and it will haunt his administration. What will happen when those 20 days are up?

He's stuck with an issue he made.

Makes me wonder if they will be separated again. And how will they go about reuniting families?

Plus people took issue with a companion of the internment centers or whatever word they choose to use being like Auschwitz and while that may have been a bridge to far the policy of separating children is Nazi like. When the Jews and other people deemed undesirable where brought to the train station they were often separated and sent to different camps.

[Maineiacs]

Fuck Obama for doing that.

There, I just took your side's favorite toy from you. What else have you got?

Even so.. I suspect Grinning Dragon didn't bother reading to the end of his cite..

To be clear: the Obama administration’s use of ATEP was not intended to break-up families–that was an occasionally expected side effect–while Trump’s recently-confirmed policy is expressly directed toward that end in the name of “deterrence.”

Or did read it, but was hoping no one else would.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

U.S citizens don't want the jobs that immigrants are willing to do.

Then we need to completely cut off unemployment coverage. Also this explains the vagrancy problems, all along I thought I was giving to the needy, now I find they're just bums who refuse to work

Eh, the illegal immigrants that actually did the rough manual labor in rough conditions are not being replaced fast enough by American citizens. The tend to complain about the working conditions more often, quit at a hell of a higher rate than illegal aliens, tend to ask for perks like health insurance, vacation days, and sick days. And most important of all, they are asking for a hell of lot of a higher wage than illegal immigrants.

I’m all for building the way, but these are the facts. Americans don’t want to do rough manual labor anymore.

[The Parkus Empire]

Happened during the bho years.
Obama’s Immigration Agencies Separated Children From Their Families, Too

Fuck Obama for doing that.

There, I just took your side's favorite toy from you. What else have you got?

That pinko organizations like the RCC didn't throw a shitfit over that.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Fuck Obama for doing that.

There, I just took your side's favorite toy from you. What else have you got?

That pinko organizations like the RCC didn't throw a shitfit over that.

Yep, the RCC is sure is a “pinko orginzation”

[The Parkus Empire]

Then we need to completely cut off unemployment coverage. Also this explains the vagrancy problems, all along I thought I was giving to the needy, now I find they're just bums who refuse to work

Eh, the illegal immigrants that actually did the rough manual labor in rough conditions are not being replaced fast enough by American citizens. The tend to complain about the working conditions more often, quit at a hell of a higher rate than illegal aliens, tend to ask for perks like health insurance, vacation days, and sick days. And most important of all, they are asking for a hell of lot of a higher wage than illegal immigrants.

I’m all for building the way, but these are the facts. Americans don’t want to do rough manual labor anymore.

Then we should cut off state assistance and hand outs.

[Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol]

Eh, the illegal immigrants that actually did the rough manual labor in rough conditions are not being replaced fast enough by American citizens. The tend to complain about the working conditions more often, quit at a hell of a higher rate than illegal aliens, tend to ask for perks like health insurance, vacation days, and sick days. And most important of all, they are asking for a hell of lot of a higher wage than illegal immigrants.

I’m all for building the way, but these are the facts. Americans don’t want to do rough manual labor anymore.

Then we should cut off state assistance and hand outs.

Sure, but the fact is Americans would rather work at something like a retail job if they are going to be paid that low. They don’t want to be paid a shit wage for really rough manual labor.