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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:18 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:And how exactly are you going to keep a several meters high murder lizard with razor sharp claws and teeth from breaking out? How exactly are you going to do that?


Oh I dont know maybe find a new island for them?

Do you have any feasible suggestions for an island to house them?

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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:18 pm

I mean the volcano in the movie wasn't really realistic....I mean human disaster preventive measures could be used on the Dinosaurs just like the volcano. Or maybe we could just literally stop the volcano from erupting in the first place with the use of extracting the magma from the volcano?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:19 pm

Austria Minor wrote:I mean the volcano in the movie wasn't really realistic....I mean human disaster preventive measures could be used on the Dinosaurs just like the volcano. Or maybe we could just literally stop the volcano from erupting in the first place with the use of extracting the magma from the volcano?

Ok but that is not the scenario being presented nor is their anything that can be done to stop a volcanic eruption.

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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:20 pm

Austria Minor wrote:I mean the volcano in the movie wasn't really realistic....I mean human disaster preventive measures could be used on the Dinosaurs just like the volcano. Or maybe we could just literally stop the volcano from erupting in the first place with the use of extracting the magma from the volcano?

You do realize how hot magma is, right?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And how exactly are you going to keep a several meters high murder lizard with razor sharp claws and teeth from breaking out? How exactly are you going to do that?


Oh I dont know maybe find a new island for them?

And remove the native inhabitants of said island? How noble of you. :roll: I always knew that one day you’re imperialistic and hatred of those who aren’t westerners would finally show
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:21 pm

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Oh shush with the self-righteousness, there's nothing sadistic or cruel about it.

So when the images were shown on tv of a mother and her beautiful dino babies being incinerated you'd feel no sadness?

Video of that would never be broadcast.


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Ifreann wrote:There's nothing cruel about quickly and painlessly culling an animal population to spare them a horrible death and to keep them from becoming an ecological nightmare.

Why not just rescue them?

Because it wouldn't be possible, and any animals you could rescue would have nowhere to go. You'd be saving them just to keep them in cages until they die, what's the point?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:21 pm

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Austria Minor wrote:We don't have to keep them locked up just move them to the bloody other island and have INGEN pay for it.

You mean the guys working on a dinosaur weapons program?

What a totally smart idea /S
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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:22 pm

True they would be bad but having them move the dinosaurs would make them go bankrupt and would ultimately help two species, Humans and dinosaurs! Also here's an article that says scientists can stop volcanoes from erupting. Also wouldn't the entire human race be in danger of Mass Eruptions across the earth if literally two volcanoes are Erupting at one and possibly even more to erupt because of that? Back to the topic dinosaurs do have the rights of life the same as any human being. Humans die every day who cares if a few more die?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:22 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So when the images were shown on tv of a mother and her beautiful dino babies being incinerated you'd feel no sadness?

Video of that would never be broadcast.


San Lumen wrote:Why not just rescue them?

Because it wouldn't be possible, and any animals you could rescue would have nowhere to go. You'd be saving them just to keep them in cages until they die, what's the point?

The point is that San Lumen can feel self righteous
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Postby Klorgia1 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:22 pm

Keeping at least a few of them for research must be a good idea. Also, you kind of wonder how the majestic creatures would take to the modern worlds diseases, so thats something to watch out for.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Oh I dont know maybe find a new island for them?

And remove the native inhabitants of said island? How noble of you. :roll: I always knew that one day you’re imperialistic and hatred of those who aren’t westerners would finally show


Did I say that? No

Im sorry you would against the bill and then watch with no heart as the such beautiful creatures and their babies brought back through years of research and billions of dollars were incinerated or drowned.

You could have cast the deciding vote to save them but no instead like others you only think about humans and not any other species except perhaps dogs and cats.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So when the images were shown on tv of a mother and her beautiful dino babies being incinerated you'd feel no sadness?

Video of that would never be broadcast.


San Lumen wrote:Why not just rescue them?

Because it wouldn't be possible, and any animals you could rescue would have nowhere to go. You'd be saving them just to keep them in cages until they die, what's the point?

No they would not. They would brought to a new reserve with free reign to roam.
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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:24 pm

Here's NASA'S Stopping volcanoes from erupting site: https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... cfd72961f4. I mean if anything we should be saving all lives as possible...maybe move in the smaller dinosaurs and leave the bigger ones to die or breed a new species of dinosaurs that are the size of modern day cows?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Austria Minor wrote:Here's NASA'S Stopping volcanoes from erupting site: https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... cfd72961f4. I mean if anything we should be saving all lives as possible...maybe move in the smaller dinosaurs and leave the bigger ones to die or breed a new species of dinosaurs that are the size of modern day cows?

That is absurd and totally unfeasible.

And I;d want to save as many of the dinos as possible. I would not pick and choose which to save.

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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:26 pm

Austria Minor wrote:What I mean is what if the parasite is able to withstand the heat you cook it at? What then? We get a bloody prehistoric parasite able to withstand heat, genius!

How the hell do you accidentally clone a parasite when you're cloning the dinosaur from dinosaur DNA?[/quote]

Its called a mutation and by theory a mutation can happen at any time even under ideal conditions and if it is a parasite then they will replicate very rapidly all it takes is one changing factor even of it is tiny.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And how exactly are you going to keep a several meters high murder lizard with razor sharp claws and teeth from breaking out? How exactly are you going to do that?


Oh I dont know maybe find a new island for them?

www.google.com/maps

Show us this island that is both habitable and devoid of animal life.


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Ifreann wrote:Video of that would never be broadcast.



Because it wouldn't be possible, and any animals you could rescue would have nowhere to go. You'd be saving them just to keep them in cages until they die, what's the point?

No they would not. They would brought to a new reserve with free reign to roam.

It would take years to build a new zoo for them, and letting them roam free would wipe out countless other species. You'd be killing thousands and thousands of other animals just to save the ones you like. How can you be so cruel?
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Postby Earthbound Immortal Squad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:29 pm

Besides you have to remember the only reasons humans evolved was because dinosaurs died out so by letting them die again you restore natural balance.
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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:29 pm

I mean this discussions is practically pointless. In fact I think we should just let dead stuff stay dead now. However I agree with San Lumen we could maybe move them to Mexico? More reason for Trumps Border wall.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Ifreann wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Oh I dont know maybe find a new island for them?

http://www.google.com/maps

Show us this island that is both habitable and devoid of animal life.


San Lumen wrote:No they would not. They would brought to a new reserve with free reign to roam.

It would take years to build a new zoo for them, and letting them roam free would wipe out countless other species. You'd be killing thousands and thousands of other animals just to save the ones you like. How can you be so cruel?


Lets assume the bill being voted on already had a area for their relocation and the dinosaurs would be moved there. Would you still vote against the bill and leave them to die?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:30 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:And remove the native inhabitants of said island? How noble of you. :roll: I always knew that one day you’re imperialistic and hatred of those who aren’t westerners would finally show


Did I say that? No

How else are you going to find a large enough island to house them? There isn’t an uninhabited island large enough to hold them.

Im sorry you would against the bill and then watch with no heart as the such beautiful creatures and their babies brought back through years of research and billions of dollars were incinerated or drowned.

Ah yes a 12 meter tall murder lizard is a great thing to keep around and waste billions to resurrect. Cut the self righteousness.

You could have cast the deciding vote to save them but no instead like others you only think about humans and not any other species except perhaps dogs and cats.

Unlike you and your self righteousness act I actually care about the rest of the world to not introduce 12 meter tall carnivores into our worlds ecosystem.
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:30 pm

Austria Minor wrote:Here's NASA'S Stopping volcanoes from erupting site: https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... cfd72961f4. I mean if anything we should be saving all lives as possible...maybe move in the smaller dinosaurs and leave the bigger ones to die or breed a new species of dinosaurs that are the size of modern day cows?

That method depends on the volcano and the article notes that drilling too deep could hasten the eruption, also, how effective would that be just months or even weeks before an eruption like the one at Isla Nublar. Also, it's quite obvious the volcano erupts so this is a moot point. And why should we save the dinos when we can easily use the embryos to bring them back. You're only adding unnecessary costs.

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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:31 pm

Earthbound immortal squad wrote:Besides you have to remember the only reasons humans evolved was because dinosaurs died out so by letting them die again you restore natural balance.


Incorrect, Humans evolved because they needed the ability to survive from creatures such as American Mastadons and Saber Tooth Cats. Anyhow if we let the dinosaurs live how major would life be effected if we just let them live on Indonesia? There's your island!

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:31 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:
Austria Minor wrote:Here's NASA'S Stopping volcanoes from erupting site: https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... cfd72961f4. I mean if anything we should be saving all lives as possible...maybe move in the smaller dinosaurs and leave the bigger ones to die or breed a new species of dinosaurs that are the size of modern day cows?

That method depends on the volcano and the article notes that drilling too deep could hasten the eruption, also, how effective would that be just months or even weeks before an eruption like the one at Isla Nublar. Also, it's quite obvious the volcano erupts so this is a moot point. And why should we save the dinos when we can easily use the embryos to bring them back. You're only adding unnecessary costs.


Because they sentient creatures with emotions and feelings.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Sodoran Alesia wrote:That method depends on the volcano and the article notes that drilling too deep could hasten the eruption, also, how effective would that be just months or even weeks before an eruption like the one at Isla Nublar. Also, it's quite obvious the volcano erupts so this is a moot point. And why should we save the dinos when we can easily use the embryos to bring them back. You're only adding unnecessary costs.


Because they sentient creatures with emotions and feelings.


So are the pigs we line up for slaughter every day.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:33 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Because they sentient creatures with emotions and feelings.


So are the pigs we line up for slaughter every day.


But that is not what we are discussing.

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