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Postby Islands of Washington » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
Islands of Washington wrote:Can someone please enlighten me further on the point of this thread? This could be a great topic of higher level discussion.


Its quite simple. Do you vote to save a entire species or let them go extinct once more? Why or why not?

Well, on a personal level, I would leave the dinosaurs as a further existence species as it could leave quite a great level of knowledge on the past, and increase interest in subjects such as history and paleontology. However if I were to go on a statistical level, then I would have to go against the proposal of saving the species, as there is an incredibly high chance of an outbreak and the slaughtering of millions of people. No matter what precautions you take, there is always a way around it, and dinosaurs are a species of higher intelligence then it is given and they would find a way around this.

If I were to give a moralistic stand point, then once again, I would have to deny the proposal, as I see it as a sign of further growth among species on Planet Earth. That is also true on my religious standpoint as well.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:50 am

Well if we had the ability to make them via cloning such as they did in JP and JW, we can always just make more of them.

Just make sure the island you put them on has a military force to watch them or something, not just 20 dudes and a few jeeps, and one helicopter.


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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:50 am

Sodoran Alesia wrote:I would vote against. There's not really any point in saving them. If I remember correctly, in Jurassic World, Hoskins sent Dr. Wu off the island with the embryos, so you could just reincubate them if you want your dinosaurs back. Also, it costs too much resources to evacuate every single dino off the island. And more importantly, where would you put them? Putting them on the mainland is too risky and you'd need to find another tropical island close enough to a coastline but far away enough from human settlements to be safe and cost effective. And what about the mosasaur? In real life they're much smaller (around 60 feet, but still pretty big), but how would you control where the hell it goes, or catch it for that matter?


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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:51 am

No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:51 am

San Lumen wrote:
Etats confederes d Amerique wrote:well its kind of hard to save them since
1. we wont know exactly when the volcano will explode
2. we have nowhere to put them w/o endangering the population on the mainland
3. dinosaurs on the mainland would be considered an invasive species and take control away from the native species
well that pretty much sums it up


It could be at any moment.

Im sure a place could be found for them.

And they wouldn't be a invasive species if their population is controlled.

I don't think dinosaurs practice safe sex.
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Postby Right wing humour squad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:52 am

Can we tame them enough to be ridden?

Cause who didn’t want to be a Brontosaurus bus driver when they were growing up?

It also really ups the stakes in the beastiality game.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.


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Postby Grinning Dragon » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:52 am

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Grinning Dragon wrote:Nope, I'd vote against, as I wouldn't put additional human lives at risk combined with the loss of valuable equipment/transportation, in a risky rescue mission.
Just wait out the eventual BB-Q then show up with plates, forks, some pork n beans and BBQ sauce and have a grand ol BB-Q party.


But the Apatosaurus that was trying to escape the eruption was super sad.


Well that would just add to the flavor, a sweet n sour BB-Q'd meat. :p

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.

Im sorry but I simply could not be the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.
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Postby Second Empire of Kladene » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:53 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
It could be at any moment.

Im sure a place could be found for them.

And they wouldn't be a invasive species if their population is controlled.

I don't think dinosaurs practice safe sex.

That's why we teach them about it in middle school.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:54 am

Right wing humour squad wrote:Can we tame them enough to be ridden?

Cause who didn’t want to be a Brontosaurus bus driver when they were growing up?

It also really ups the stakes in the beastiality game.

Can we not bring beastiality into this and have a serious discussion?

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:55 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.

Im sorry but I am incapable being the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.


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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:55 am

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Ifreann wrote:Evacuating a whole island of dinosaurs doesn't seem viable, and if we got the dinosaurs by cloning them from mosquitoes then we hardly need to keep them alive to preserve their species. We can just run another batch of velociraptors or whatever.


But that might take a very long time

So?
and they are sentient creatures I could not watch them die knowing they could be saved.

They probably couldn't be saved. Not all of them, any way.
Maybe I'm a bit too compassionate but I simply could not vote against the bill.

If this volcano could erupt at any moment, how is it safe to send thousands of people in to wrangle thousands of dangerous animals?

It'd probably be more humane and environmentally friendly to cull them all.
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Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:55 am

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Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:If we have the genetic data on hand to create them again, there's no point in risking human lives to assist creatures that amount to organic robots. We have the technology, we can rebuild them. Harder, better, faster, stronger Actually, that would be a really bad idea, so let's... not make them any more lethal than they already are.

If we don't the question is more complicated.

you know there's some greedy corporate bigwig thinking lets make a Disney land but with giant people murdering attractions. what ...no nothing will go wrong I swear.

If I were making a Jurassic Park style thing, and we were going by Jurassic World tech (where they can alter dinosaur DNA), then I'd reprogram them so that humans no longer look like a food source. That would eliminate 99% of the reasons they'd have to attack people if they got out, and for the other 1%... well, if you throw rocks at a giant prehistoric killing machine while it's out of its enclosure, what happens next qualifies as natural selection.

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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:56 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.

Im sorry but I simply could not be the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.

But you're not dooming it to extinction! Ingen still has the embryos, so you can bring them back. Besides, humans brought them into this world, and considering what we've seen, I think mother nature is doing us a favor in taking them out.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:56 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry but I am incapable being the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.


Worry not, me and Fart love the smell of napalm in the morning.


That's just evil and cruel

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Postby Etats confederes d Amerique » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.

Im sorry but I simply could not be the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.

well that's basically what your doing to humans and the thousands of other animals on the planet driving them to extinction to save a few hundred dinosaurs on an isolated island save for the flying dinosaurs so in reality your are voting to doom several thousands species to death versus just a few on an island

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Postby Second Empire of Kladene » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:No, kill them all and ban anyone from making more.

Im sorry but I simply could not be the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.

Because fuck the humans whose whole sophisticated lives were taken because some damn lizard was literally unable to stop killing shit I guess
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 am

Sodoran Alesia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry but I simply could not be the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.

But you're not dooming it to extinction! Ingen still has the embryos, so you can bring them back. Besides, humans brought them into this world, and considering what we've seen, I think mother nature is doing us a favor in taking them out.


Even if thats true I still could not watch beautiful creatures like that suffer such a terrible fate. That part of the trailer made me so sad.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:57 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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That's just evil and cruel


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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
That's just evil and cruel


Colonel Kilgore actually did nothing wrong.

Who?

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Postby Right wing humour squad » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 am

San Lumen wrote:
Right wing humour squad wrote:Can we tame them enough to be ridden?

Cause who didn’t want to be a Brontosaurus bus driver when they were growing up?

It also really ups the stakes in the beastiality game.

Can we not bring beastiality into this and have a serious discussion?


If it exists someone is going to try and do “things” with it. Do we know how much they would ejaculate? Because I’m thinking of a new worst way to die.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:58 am

Second Empire of Kladene wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry but I simply could not be the deciding vote to doom an entire species to extinction. The scene in the trailer of the dinosaurs running away from the volcano and jumping into the water made me cry.

Because fuck the humans whose whole sophisticated lives were taken because some damn lizard was literally unable to stop killing shit I guess


And they were taken out by the T-Rex and then eaten by the underwater dinosaur.

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Postby Second Empire of Kladene » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Colonel Kilgore actually did nothing wrong.

Who?

Apocalypse Now. It's a movie.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:59 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Colonel Kilgore actually did nothing wrong.

Who?


Have you actually never seen Apocalypse Now?
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