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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Austria Minor wrote:Here's NASA'S Stopping volcanoes from erupting site: https://www.news.com.au/technology/scie ... cfd72961f4. I mean if anything we should be saving all lives as possible...maybe move in the smaller dinosaurs and leave the bigger ones to die or breed a new species of dinosaurs that are the size of modern day cows?

That is absurd and totally unfeasible.

I dunno, sounds like a pretty good approach to Yellowstone.
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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:33 pm

I mean we could relocate the Indonesian's to Australia and just have the dinosaurs live there. I agree with San Lumen would you vote yes if the bill actually had a place for the dinosaurs and the necessary funding or are you just cruel beings?

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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:33 pm

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Earthbound immortal squad wrote:Besides you have to remember the only reasons humans evolved was because dinosaurs died out so by letting them die again you restore natural balance.


Incorrect, Humans evolved because they needed the ability to survive from creatures such as American Mastadons and Saber Tooth Cats. Anyhow if we let the dinosaurs live how major would life be effected if we just let them live on Indonesia? There's your island!

Since you're so enthusiastic about coexisting with dinos, why don't we release them where you live? (unless it is Indonesia, which is not a good place to release dinos anyways, a lot of people and endangered species, you'd be destroying the island).

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:http://www.google.com/maps

Show us this island that is both habitable and devoid of animal life.



It would take years to build a new zoo for them, and letting them roam free would wipe out countless other species. You'd be killing thousands and thousands of other animals just to save the ones you like. How can you be so cruel?


Lets assume the bill being voted on already had a area for their relocation and the dinosaurs would be moved there. Would you still vote against the bill and leave them to die?

Yes. Because unlike you I want to preserve our ecosystem not trash it by introducing a non native Species, a carnivorous species at that
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:35 pm

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Lets assume the bill being voted on already had a area for their relocation and the dinosaurs would be moved there. Would you still vote against the bill and leave them to die?

Yes. Because unlike you I want to preserve our ecosystem not trash it by introducing a non native Species, a carnivorous species at that

Even the herbivorous ones are bad, I can already imagine them eating plants to extinction.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:35 pm

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So are the pigs we line up for slaughter every day.


But that is not what we are discussing.


Why do you care about one and not the other?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:35 pm

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Sodoran Alesia wrote:That method depends on the volcano and the article notes that drilling too deep could hasten the eruption, also, how effective would that be just months or even weeks before an eruption like the one at Isla Nublar. Also, it's quite obvious the volcano erupts so this is a moot point. And why should we save the dinos when we can easily use the embryos to bring them back. You're only adding unnecessary costs.


Because they sentient creatures with emotions and feelings.

No they don’t have emotions, especially not human ones. That’s Hollywood magic right there
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:35 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Lets assume the bill being voted on already had a area for their relocation and the dinosaurs would be moved there. Would you still vote against the bill and leave them to die?

Yes. Because unlike you I want to preserve our ecosystem not trash it by introducing a non native Species, a carnivorous species at that

But it has a reserve set aside for where they will be brought too so what exactly is being destroyed?

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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:35 pm

Well I live in the United States. That of course would be a great place to release the dinosaurs. I still think we should stick with the volcanic drilling or we could just make Isla Nublar's Volcano collapse on itself by mountain sheering. Therefore saving the dinosaurs. If the technique will work for Yellowstone it has to work for a tiny island volcano.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:37 pm

Austria Minor wrote:Well I live in the United States. That of course would be a great place to release the dinosaurs. I still think we should stick with the volcanic drilling or we could just make Isla Nublar's Volcano collapse on itself by mountain sheering. Therefore saving the dinosaurs. If the technique will work for Yellowstone it has to work for a tiny island volcano.

Not relevant. For the sake of scenario the eruption is unstoppable. The question is if you would have to save them or not.

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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:37 pm

Couldn't we just clone the plant food and stuff the dinosaurs need therefore making the reserve a great idea?

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:37 pm

Austria Minor wrote:I mean we could relocate the Indonesian's to Australia

Fucking what?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:37 pm

Sodoran Alesia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes. Because unlike you I want to preserve our ecosystem not trash it by introducing a non native Species, a carnivorous species at that

Even the herbivorous ones are bad, I can already imagine them eating plants to extinction.

The amount of plants to sustain a several ton animal would be astronomical. You can kiss elephants goodbye
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:37 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Because they sentient creatures with emotions and feelings.

No they don’t have emotions, especially not human ones. That’s Hollywood magic right there


Dinosaurs didn't love their babies and didn't form herds? That sounds like emotion to me.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:39 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Sodoran Alesia wrote:Even the herbivorous ones are bad, I can already imagine them eating plants to extinction.

The amount of plants to sustain a several ton animal would be astronomical. You can kiss elephants goodbye


Well the park managed to operate for a long time before this vote to relocate them.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:39 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes. Because unlike you I want to preserve our ecosystem not trash it by introducing a non native Species, a carnivorous species at that

But it has a reserve set aside for where they will be brought too so what exactly is being destroyed?

The entire reserve. Which once the food sources are exhausted, which will happen pretty quickly, they will then seek out another source or food or starve.

Congrats you just doomed the ecosystem/starved the Dino’s to extinction
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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Austria Minor wrote:Well I live in the United States. That of course would be a great place to release the dinosaurs. I still think we should stick with the volcanic drilling or we could just make Isla Nublar's Volcano collapse on itself by mountain sheering. Therefore saving the dinosaurs. If the technique will work for Yellowstone it has to work for a tiny island volcano.

Not relevant. For the sake of scenario the eruption is unstoppable. The question is if you would have to save them or not.


True but still we must consider the fact that we could move them to the Caribbeans! Or maybe Florida? Who needs Walt Disney World and that stuff anyways? We must save the dinosaurs and put them on the reserve and clone them the necessary stuff they need! In fact we should be helping to the greatest extent possible. I mean Donald Trump would probably say no to this but Hillary Clinton would've said yes.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:40 pm

Austria Minor wrote:Well I live in the United States. That of course would be a great place to release the dinosaurs. I still think we should stick with the volcanic drilling or we could just make Isla Nublar's Volcano collapse on itself by mountain sheering. Therefore saving the dinosaurs. If the technique will work for Yellowstone it has to work for a tiny island volcano.

Fuck no. You aren’t releasing murder lizards into the US
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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:40 pm

Austria Minor wrote:Well I live in the United States. That of course would be a great place to release the dinosaurs. I still think we should stick with the volcanic drilling or we could just make Isla Nublar's Volcano collapse on itself by mountain sheering. Therefore saving the dinosaurs. If the technique will work for Yellowstone it has to work for a tiny island volcano.

The Yellowstone volcano erupts roughly every 600,000 years. Isla Nublar volcano is erupting in probably weeks or days. You won't have time to stop the eruption. And what is mountain sheering? Searched it up and couldn't find anything conclusive.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:40 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:But it has a reserve set aside for where they will be brought too so what exactly is being destroyed?

The entire reserve. Which once the food sources are exhausted, which will happen pretty quickly, they will then seek out another source or food or starve.

Congrats you just doomed the ecosystem/starved the Dino’s to extinction


And you think there wont be people maintaining this reserve like what Disney's Animal Kingdom does?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The amount of plants to sustain a several ton animal would be astronomical. You can kiss elephants goodbye


Well the park managed to operate for a long time before this vote to relocate them.

The park is also science-fiction
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:42 pm

Austria Minor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Not relevant. For the sake of scenario the eruption is unstoppable. The question is if you would have to save them or not.


True but still we must consider the fact that we could move them to the Caribbeans! Or maybe Florida? Who needs Walt Disney World and that stuff anyways? We must save the dinosaurs and put them on the reserve and clone them the necessary stuff they need! In fact we should be helping to the greatest extent possible. I mean Donald Trump would probably say no to this but Hillary Clinton would've said yes.

The reserve could be an add on to Disney World. Disney's Jurassic Kingdom or something like that.

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Postby Austria Minor » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:42 pm

The answer is simple and plain:Clone the food source for the dinosaurs therefore making the reserve a practical place. Also if you actually watch the movies Jurassic World operated with a task force and human visitors. If anything we need to consider how the hell they managed to keep all the dinosaurs on the park? Electric Fences, Trackers, Stun guns would suffice? Maybe a powerful sedative?

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Postby Sodoran Alesia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:42 pm

Austria Minor wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Not relevant. For the sake of scenario the eruption is unstoppable. The question is if you would have to save them or not.


True but still we must consider the fact that we could move them to the Caribbeans! Or maybe Florida? Who needs Walt Disney World and that stuff anyways? We must save the dinosaurs and put them on the reserve and clone them the necessary stuff they need! In fact we should be helping to the greatest extent possible. I mean Donald Trump would probably say no to this but Hillary Clinton would've said yes.

So you'd rather have a species that doesn't belong to our biosphere kill off species that do?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:43 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Well the park managed to operate for a long time before this vote to relocate them.

The park is also science-fiction


Thank you Captain Obvious. This is a thread about whether you would save the dinosaurs from extinction and using Jurassic World as a basis for the setting and background.

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