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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:45 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:Because your anecdotal experience clearly reflects the same result experienced by the other 325000000 American citizens... :roll:
It's not like welfare spending reduces investment either


The inverse of that is true too. Just beacuse one person isn't getting the help they need doesn't mean that there aren't people being helped by it.

Truthfully, everyone in the US is being benefited by welfare! Wait, uhhh...
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Postby Great Winminster » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:47 am

Bizarre, just bizarre.
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Great Winminster wrote:Bizarre, just bizarre.

you dont seem to spend too much time here
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:24 am

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
And so is my Nana and my uncle after he got an herniated disk.
Also what

>Be LBJ
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>Creates corporate welfare
>Trillions in tax money went to waste
But of course your grandma and your uncle were benefited by it (or not, t. rising medical prices), clearly turns the whole thing good

On the last one, welfare is effectively a governmental move to push consumption, as you are increasing taxation or deficits -- draining savings -- only so you can boost PCE. By doing both, you crowd out investment participation on the economy.



Are we a corporation? Nope. What rising medical prices? That's dealt with via tax too.

Fucking what. Me buying stuff crowds out investment participation?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:26 am

Great Minarchistan wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The inverse of that is true too. Just beacuse one person isn't getting the help they need doesn't mean that there aren't people being helped by it.

Truthfully, everyone in the US is being benefited by welfare! Wait, uhhh...

I didn't say everyone was, just that people are being helped by welfare.

Zed welfare goes into local business, big businesses and, charity.

So it helps more then you think, but not everyone.

Also it not helping everyone is no reason to stop it.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:39 am

How does pizza get damaged by a pot hole? How fast do their drivers go?
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Postby The Batavia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:24 am

The Black Forrest wrote:How does pizza get damaged by a pot hole? How fast do their drivers go?

Wel I imagine that alot of holes in the road will mess the pizza up pretty badly.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:34 am

The Black Forrest wrote:How does pizza get damaged by a pot hole? How fast do their drivers go?

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Postby Xerographica » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:20 am

Internationalist Bastard wrote:sigh
As long as the potholes get fixed and that’s the end of it
The libertarians will now use this forever

Don't forget the pragmatarians...

As for taxation, my answer is NO. People are illogical. They tend only to see the things right in front of them, and lack vision. Someone with no license, for instance, will likely not want to put any of his money towards roads, only to realize down the timeline a bit that the pizza guy can't get to his house without that road...and in most cases, we don't miss something till it's gone...and in some of are tax cases, by the time something is gone, it's TOO LATE to fix it cheaply. - KevinKohler, Do you understand how the invisible hand works?
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In the state that I live in, the department of transportation is promoting using private companies as much as possible to do all the work. Now there are three more levels of supervising and each level makes a profit. If they would just do it themselves, one group that does not have to be profitable, just break even from tax support, then they could do more work for less money.
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Max Barry warmed us about this!

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:sigh
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Don't forget the pragmatarians...

Why not? There's only one of them.
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Postby Puldania » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:17 pm

Good for them, i guess?

Regardless of the motive, roads are getting fixed. That's good enough for me.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:45 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are we a corporation? Nope.

Does the government work like a household? Yes.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What rising medical prices? That's dealt with via tax too.

So you decrease rising medical prices with reduced disposable income... Isn't the effective purchasing power the same in the end? Or are your tax schemes so miraculous that directing more money to crony welfare will make it cheaper?

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Fucking what. Me buying stuff crowds out investment participation?

Savings are inversely correlated to consumption, and investments are highly dependent on savings. At best, implying that investment retains unchanged (likely wont due to diminished savings), more consumption decreases the participation of investment on the GDP. It's simple math, really.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:13 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:How does pizza get damaged by a pot hole? How fast do their drivers go?

And wrecks the ability to deliver the pizza.
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Postby Luziyca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:15 pm

...a shame that it has to be like this, but since Americans hate taxes as much as they love their guns, I suppose it was only a matter of time before some private company decides to start funding fixing potholes a go.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:17 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:How does pizza get damaged by a pot hole? How fast do their drivers go?

And wrecks the ability to deliver the pizza.

The other problem being that potholes can also crash trucks.
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Postby Yymea » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:20 pm

tfw corporations ruin ur countries infrastructure thru tax evasion and then fix it because the gubmint got no money so now they good people xddddddd

also lmaooooo liberals praising this shit on here wow
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Postby Petrolheadia » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:20 pm

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Petrasylvania wrote:And wrecks the ability to deliver the pizza.

The other problem being that potholes can also crash trucks.

Are we talking about potholes or craters?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:34 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Are we a corporation? Nope.

Does the government work like a household? Yes.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:What rising medical prices? That's dealt with via tax too.

So you decrease rising medical prices with reduced disposable income... Isn't the effective purchasing power the same in the end? Or are your tax schemes so miraculous that directing more money to crony welfare will make it cheaper?

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Fucking what. Me buying stuff crowds out investment participation?

Savings are inversely correlated to consumption, and investments are highly dependent on savings. At best, implying that investment retains unchanged (likely wont due to diminished savings), more consumption decreases the participation of investment on the GDP. It's simple math, really.



But we are not a corporation.


No, beacuse we only pay taxes once a year and you end up with less disposable income when you pay for monthly health insurance.


No, it's nonsense.

Money siting around in a bank account makes investors magicly come?

While money spent on the local Tim Hortons franchise, that increases the profits of the local business and the corporation, makes investors run away beacuse business is profitable?


Because that is what you are saying, investors actively dislike businesses making more of a profit? While they love money that sits around doing nothing?
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:52 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:But we are not a corporation.

We are still a household.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:No, beacuse we only pay taxes once a year and you end up with less disposable income when you pay for monthly health insurance.

This argument doesn't make sense, the periodicity of tax paying doesn't influence the amount of tax paid :thronking:

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:No, it's nonsense.

Money siting around in a bank account makes investors magicly come?

Given that banks lend that money that you keep on a savings account, yes it does.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:While money spent on the local Tim Hortons franchise, that increases the profits of the local business and the corporation, makes investors run away beacuse business is profitable?

A service-based economy is less dynamic and generates less job growth and economic growth.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Because that is what you are saying, investors actively dislike businesses making more of a profit? While they love money that sits around doing nothing?

Of course, because the banks and businesses that institute mutual funds, savings accounts, hedge funds, stocks and corporate bonds don't invest and lend that money that you gave them... :roll:
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:02 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:But we are not a corporation.

We are still a household.


And? Your og point was comparing us to a corporation not a household.
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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:No, beacuse we only pay taxes once a year and you end up with less disposable income when you pay for monthly health insurance.

This argument doesn't make sense, the periodicity of tax paying doesn't influence the amount of tax paid :thronking:

Your right. I mean it's not like you can wright off certain expenses to pay on tax like: public transport, religious donations, political donations, donations to charity, post secondary learning, ect...

I'm sure that you'll monthly rates will go down if you explain to them that you spent money on the red cross, school loans, church donations and, riding the bus.

Oh wait... you can get a tax credit for doing that and the health insurance people wouldn't lower your rate at all!

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:No, it's nonsense.

Money siting around in a bank account makes investors magicly come?

Given that banks lend that money that you keep on a savings account, yes it does.



Lend? The fuck are you talking about?

I give the teller money, the teller puts it in my bank account, it's still my money.

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:While money spent on the local Tim Hortons franchise, that increases the profits of the local business and the corporation, makes investors run away beacuse business is profitable?

A service-based economy is less dynamic and generates less job growth and economic growth.


Well, it's what we got. If that Tim Hortons franchise went under, there would be less jobs, less money in circulation and overall a poorer economy.


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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Because that is what you are saying, investors actively dislike businesses making more of a profit? While they love money that sits around doing nothing?

Of course, because the banks and businesses that institute mutual funds, savings accounts, hedge funds, stocks and corporate bonds don't invest and lend that money that you gave them... :roll:

Here is the weird part, they still make money from that account.

Whether or not I spend it or not, they still get a service charge of so much. They get that money even if I didn't spend a dime on anything.

Also you might find that they invest that in other places too.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:07 pm

You are also acting like that money spent on services doesn't go into another bank account.

So really that money level is the same just spread on multiple banks.

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:42 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And? Your og point was comparing us to a corporation not a household.

Technically you called out on the government. The government is not a corporation.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Your right. I mean it's not like you can wright off certain expenses to pay on tax like: public transport, religious donations, political donations, donations to charity, post secondary learning, ect...

I'm sure that you'll monthly rates will go down if you explain to them that you spent money on the red cross, school loans, church donations and, riding the bus.

Oh wait... you can get a tax credit for doing that and the health insurance people wouldn't lower your rate at all!

Regardless, more money to the government equals less money to the private sector. And usually, the larger the government influences on capital flow is, the worst off the private sector is.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Lend? The fuck are you talking about?

I give the teller money, the teller puts it in my bank account, it's still my money.

Sweet summer child... As a rule of thumb, banks typically use 80-90% of all demand deposits (such as your savings account) as loans to businesses, people, whatever. Only a meager 10-20% or so retains ready for any possible withdrawal. Did you really think that the banks give you interest at the cost of nothing? Truthfully you are the one being fooled by the bank as you are literally saving money on one of the worst performing investments possible. Get yourself a 401k.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Well, it's what we got.

And what we've got is a really strong economy huh? Wait, uhhh...

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Here is the weird part, they still make money from that account.

>What is investment and how do businesses use your savings to invest on themselves and then give you part of the return for participating on their scheme

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Whether or not I spend it or not, they still get a service charge of so much. They get that money even if I didn't spend a dime on anything.

...What do you mean?


Given the size of this fine, the scheme is surely a drop in the water when faced with the trillions exchanged in the financial system.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:56 am

Great Minarchistan wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:And? Your og point was comparing us to a corporation not a household.

Technically you called out on the government. The government is not a corporation.

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Your right. I mean it's not like you can wright off certain expenses to pay on tax like: public transport, religious donations, political donations, donations to charity, post secondary learning, ect...

I'm sure that you'll monthly rates will go down if you explain to them that you spent money on the red cross, school loans, church donations and, riding the bus.

Oh wait... you can get a tax credit for doing that and the health insurance people wouldn't lower your rate at all!

Regardless, more money to the government equals less money to the private sector. And usually, the larger the government influences on capital flow is, the worst off the private sector is.


Ok and? Really? A technicality?

Not necessarily, the government can higher private sector workers for stuff.

See: Government contracting private sector people to repave roads.

And even if that was true, you can pay less for health care here if you are: politically active, going to school, religiously donating, going to a Jays game via Go bus/train and, donating to charity.

Private sector doesn't care about any of that, you end up paying more per year beacuse you deal with a cold uncaring corporation.

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