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by Bombadil » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:35 pm
by Uxupox » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:38 pm
Ifreann wrote:Pro: Iftars are probably delicious. Hunger is the best sauce.
Con: Fasting is generally stupid at best and potentially dangerous.
by Hatterleigh » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:40 pm
Ifreann wrote:Pro: Iftars are probably delicious. Hunger is the best sauce.
Con: Fasting is generally stupid at best and potentially dangerous.
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by Uxupox » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:44 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Hatterleigh wrote:Fasting isn't stupid. And it definitely isn't dangerous.
Intermittent fasting can have health benefits. There are improvements to cholesterol levels and insulin sensitivity.
by Hatterleigh » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:44 pm
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Uxupox wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Intermittent fasting can have health benefits. There are improvements to cholesterol levels and insulin sensitivity.
I use IF all the time to get 12 % bf.
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by Salus Maior » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:04 pm
KingFerdinand1 wrote:A Pro Is That There Weaker During The Day And Thus Easier To Beat At Football. Egypt Losing There World Cup Game Is Proof.
by Ifreann » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:01 pm
USS Monitor wrote:Salus Maior wrote:Isn't this subject covered by the IDT?
I'm not inclined to merge them because it gets tiresome to see NSG taken over by megathreads, and they tend to have their own little communities that make them less accessible for people outside the clique.
People that are not Muslim and do not have a deep interest in Islamic theology might still want to discuss Ramadan, since there are other angles such as talking about the health effects that can be discussed. This could tie into a discussion of ritual fasting in general.
The OP does seem to misunderstand how Ramadan works, since the fasting is only during the day.Ifreann wrote:
Con: Fasting is generally stupid at best and potentially dangerous.
It's common across many cultures and religions, and when something is that common, there is usually a reason. I wouldn't be surprised if it has some kind of mental health benefit.
KingFerdinand1 wrote:A Pro Is That There Weaker During The Day And Thus Easier To Beat At Football. Egypt Losing There World Cup Game Is Proof.
Hatterleigh wrote:Ifreann wrote:Pro: Iftars are probably delicious. Hunger is the best sauce.
Con: Fasting is generally stupid at best and potentially dangerous.
Fasting isn't stupid. And it definitely isn't dangerous. A few days of hunger isn't gonna kill you or anything. I've seen some people who should really consider some fasting, if you catch my drift.
by Flawless Walruses » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:48 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Intermittent fasting can have health benefits. There are improvements to cholesterol levels and insulin sensitivity.
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by Frievolk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:59 pm
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by Geneviev » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:25 pm
by USS Monitor » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:36 pm
by Frievolk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:39 pm
Medically speaking, the solution to "you eat a lot" isn't "don't eat anything for the majority of your biological clock's awakening time and then leave everything to be digested as you sleep" (As you know, that is in fact, bad for your health). It's generally accepted to be "eat but eat the stuff that your doctor tells you, in the intervals your doctor tells you". And no doctor worth his doctorate will unironically tell you "don't eat anything or drink anything from dawn till dusk then gorge yourself on food at dusk after saying your prayers"
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by USS Monitor » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:40 pm
Frievolk wrote:Pro: I can't think of any universe in which there would be a pro to Fasting. In Islamic Countries you can't execute people in Ramadan so I guess the only pro is that some people get to live longer? I guess?
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Intermittent fasting can have health benefits. There are improvements to cholesterol levels and insulin sensitivity.
by Geneviev » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:40 pm
Frievolk wrote:Con: Fasting is actually dangerous for a person's health (especially how the Muslims fast, with excessive eating in Iftar and (if they take it) Sahar.
Fasting is a pretty stupid thing to do.
Apart from the no eating, everything else in the traditional Ramadan can (and should) be done outside of that month too (apart from the no sex part. That, too, is stupid)
Pro: I can't think of any universe in which there would be a pro to Fasting. In Islamic Countries you can't execute people in Ramadan so I guess the only pro is that some people get to live longer? I guess?
by Frievolk » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:45 pm
Geneviev wrote:Frievolk wrote:Con: Fasting is actually dangerous for a person's health (especially how the Muslims fast, with excessive eating in Iftar and (if they take it) Sahar.
Fasting is a pretty stupid thing to do.
Apart from the no eating, everything else in the traditional Ramadan can (and should) be done outside of that month too (apart from the no sex part. That, too, is stupid)
Pro: I can't think of any universe in which there would be a pro to Fasting. In Islamic Countries you can't execute people in Ramadan so I guess the only pro is that some people get to live longer? I guess?
Fasting isn't that bad. Some people do it for medical reasons instead of for Ramadan or Lent as well. It is supposed to be healthier.
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by Geneviev » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:47 pm
Frievolk wrote:Geneviev wrote:Fasting isn't that bad. Some people do it for medical reasons instead of for Ramadan or Lent as well. It is supposed to be healthier.
Fasting for medical reasons is assisted suicide tho. No doctor worth his salt will ever tell you "don't eat anything from dawn till dusk, then gorge yourself on food after that, before you go to sleep"
That can, and does, have devastating effects on your body. And you're missing the entire point of fasting. You don't fast because "it's good for your health" (if a doctor says that, they're 100% lying. there's no debate on that), you fast because god told you you should fast. That's all there is to it. Spiritual issues, not medical.
by USS Monitor » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:51 pm
Frievolk wrote:Medically speaking, the solution to "you eat a lot" isn't "don't eat anything for the majority of your biological clock's awakening time and then leave everything to be digested as you sleep" (As you know, that is in fact, bad for your health). It's generally accepted to be "eat but eat the stuff that your doctor tells you, in the intervals your doctor tells you". And no doctor worth his doctorate will unironically tell you "don't eat anything or drink anything from dawn till dusk then gorge yourself on food at dusk after saying your prayers"USS Monitor wrote:
Yeah, but only if you overdo it. Eating too much can be dangerous too.
by Bolivar Union » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:23 pm
by Bolivar Union » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:28 pm
Ifreann wrote:Pro: Iftars are probably delicious. Hunger is the best sauce.
Con: Fasting is generally stupid at best and potentially dangerous.
by USS Monitor » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:29 pm
Bolivar Union wrote:Ifreann wrote:Pro: Iftars are probably delicious. Hunger is the best sauce.
Con: Fasting is generally stupid at best and potentially dangerous.
Im muslim and im always fasting in every ramadhan.
fasting is not a fool. fasting like resting the digestion of the human body. like a machine that needs to be cooled. intestines, stomach and other body digestion also need rest and fasting is healthy
as from the hadith of the Messenger of Allah:
Rasulullah s.a.w said: Surely in the Heaven there is a door called Ar-Rayyan. The one who fasts will enter through the door on the Last Day. Can not enter anyone except them. Later there will be an announcement: Where is the fasting person? They then flocked through the door. After the last of them had entered, the door was closed again. No one else will enter it "[Bukhari-Muslim]
*sorry my english bad before
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:39 pm
by Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:55 pm
Hatterleigh wrote:Ramadan seems pretty lit. I'm not muslim or anything, but I think that it's incredibly respectable to go for weeks without eating during the day just to show your faith in God.
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