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Postby Ieskarios » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:08 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:unlike you all i know all about tha war and I know arginia was right to strike and thacher shud not send men to war of ocupation as malvina is so close to argetinea you can see from caost but brtian is around the globe ocean very far away. vote was a hoax bc only brits live there after 1982 war..!

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Nothing you can say changes the fact that the U.K. has ruled over the Falklands for a few centuries and the inhabitants have always been majority British English speakers. Why then should Argentina own these islands? It'd be like Germany annexing Armenia.

Distance between borders is not an argument. If it were the case you'd have to give Kaliningrad to Poland or Lithuania, Cabinda (Angola) to the DRC or ROC or Mayotte to Comoros. The U.K, France, Germany, Portugal, etc. all held land far away from their home territory, but suddenly that goes out the window because muh Argentine coast.

The people voted overwhelmingly to remain to the nation that they have been a part of for centuries, and that overwhelmingly share their common ancestry, language and culture. Nothing's going to change that, not even your fierce pro-Argentine, anti-loyalist stance.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:10 am

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Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:no britain did invade, with paras and all marines navy around ocean not near caost

To expel the Argentinian invasion force! Seriously, has NSGeneral been thrown into the depths of Bizarro World or something??

>implying it wasn't allready

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But more srsly, it's NS summer, of course things are cray cray here.

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Postby Aboveland » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:11 am

There are few things more stupid than Falklands threads on NS. They always en up in flaming, trolling and extensive red blocks of text from the mods. Those in favor of whatever stance they have will never change their stance, I'm sure.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:12 am

Aboveland wrote:There are few things more stupid than Falklands threads on NS. They always en up in flaming, trolling and extensive red blocks of text from the mods. Those in favor of whatever stance they have will never change their stance, I'm sure.

Such is human nature, comrade. We can't change it. It's a tiny-ass island with about 3,400 people. No one would normally care about it. It doesn't have anything worthwhile, and it just is there. Without the Falklands war, no one would care.
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Postby Dormill and Stiura » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:13 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:To expel the Argentinian invasion force! Seriously, has NSGeneral been thrown into the depths of Bizarro World or something??

>implying it wasn't allready

:P

But more srsly, it's NS summer, of course things are cray cray here.

As if NSG at any other point of the year is any better.

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Postby Kubra » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:14 am

The South Falls wrote:
Aboveland wrote:There are few things more stupid than Falklands threads on NS. They always en up in flaming, trolling and extensive red blocks of text from the mods. Those in favor of whatever stance they have will never change their stance, I'm sure.

Such is human nature, comrade. We can't change it.
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Postby Kul Ibla » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:15 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
argentineans were wellcomed as liberators while brits where around globe axtreme distance not theyre soil. i read many books abuot period of time, I know that argentinea was right and brits where not, as islands are so cloase to argentinea that you can see them from there, but london invaded them with planes and bombed them so to make room for brits colonials


This doesn't make sense.
The Falklands have been British since somtime in the 18th century. The above post asks us to believe that around 1750, the British invaded the islands with planes, and bombed a pre-existing inhabitation away to make room for British colonials who ...

... did not maintain even one plane on the island until two centuries later the islands were invaded by Argentina.

Whatever books you have been reading on the subject, I suspect that you found them in the section called "fiction".

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:16 am

Kubra wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Such is human nature, comrade. We can't change it.
When the world revolution comes the Argentinean SFR will still be fighting for the constituent republic of the falklands with the British worker's commonwealth

Obviously. There's nothing else to fight about over there...
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:21 am

The South Falls wrote:
Kubra wrote: When the world revolution comes the Argentinean SFR will still be fighting for the constituent republic of the falklands with the British worker's commonwealth

Obviously. There's nothing else to fight about over there...

You forget about the oil. Lots and lots of oil.
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Postby Gerburtsurg » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:31 am

I think the best solution is to make the Falklands an independent nation, and then give all of Argentina to them. Might as well throw in South Georgia and Patagonia while we're at it. And since someone mentioned Uruguay, let's give that land to the Falkland Empire as well.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:33 am

Gerburtsurg wrote:I think the best solution is to make the Falklands an independent nation, and then give all of Argentina to them.

I mean, it would be good compensation for the islanders after all the shit they lived through because of Argentina. A tad excessive, but good.

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Postby Kul Ibla » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:37 am

Gerburtsurg wrote:I think the best solution is to make the Falklands an independent nation, and then give all of Argentina to them. Might as well throw in South Georgia and Patagonia while we're at it. And since someone mentioned Uruguay, let's give that land to the Falkland Empire as well.



That is really funny! But what about the antarctic claims that would have to be revised?

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:39 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Obviously. There's nothing else to fight about over there...

You forget about the oil. Lots and lots of oil.

There's not so much oil that we should kill people over it.
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Postby Adidasia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:40 am

The South Falls wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:unlike you all i know all about tha war and I know arginia was right to strike and thacher shud not send men to war of ocupation as malvina is so close to argetinea you can see from caost but brtian is around the globe ocean very far away. vote was a hoax bc only brits live there after 1982 war..!

Dude, I'm genuinely having a hard time understanding you. Great. Argentinians were expelled. Letting them in again is useless, and the vote was not a hoax. Give Alaska back to Canada, give Ireland back to Britain, and give Gibraltar back to Spain and only Spain. Make Hawaii Tonga's playtoy.

As far as I know Alaska was Russian until the US bought it.
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Postby Kubra » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:40 am

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The New California Republic wrote:You forget about the oil. Lots and lots of oil.

There's not so much oil that we should kill people over it.
but there is enough dick-waving potential to start the third world war
I mean, I'm only half joking.
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Postby Kul Ibla » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:41 am

Adidasia wrote:As far as I know Alaska was Russian until the US bought it.


The native Alaskans might disagree with you there...

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Postby The Transhuman Union » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:44 am

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:45 am

Adidasia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Dude, I'm genuinely having a hard time understanding you. Great. Argentinians were expelled. Letting them in again is useless, and the vote was not a hoax. Give Alaska back to Canada, give Ireland back to Britain, and give Gibraltar back to Spain and only Spain. Make Hawaii Tonga's playtoy.

As far as I know Alaska was Russian until the US bought it.

It was. But according to this dude, everything it's closest to, get's it. Alaska is closest to Canada because it's touching it.
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Postby Adidasia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:48 am

The South Falls wrote:
Adidasia wrote:As far as I know Alaska was Russian until the US bought it.

It was. But according to this dude, everything it's closest to, get's it. Alaska is closest to Canada because it's touching it.

It's also technically touching Russia over the Bering Strait in the winter between the Big & Small Diomede Islands iirc
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:49 am

Adidasia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:It was. But according to this dude, everything it's closest to, get's it. Alaska is closest to Canada because it's touching it.

It's also technically touching Russia over the Bering Strait in the winter between the Big & Small Diomede Islands iirc


So Canada gets Russia as well.

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Postby Adidasia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:49 am

The South Falls wrote:
Adidasia wrote:As far as I know Alaska was Russian until the US bought it.

It was. But according to this dude, everything it's closest to, get's it. Alaska is closest to Canada because it's touching it.

It's also technically touching Russia over the Bering Strait in the winter between the Big & Small Diomede Islands iirc
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Postby The Transhuman Union » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:50 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Adidasia wrote:It's also technically touching Russia over the Bering Strait in the winter between the Big & Small Diomede Islands iirc


So Canada gets Russia as well.


But if Canada gets Alaska and so does Russia...
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:51 am

Adidasia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:It was. But according to this dude, everything it's closest to, get's it. Alaska is closest to Canada because it's touching it.

It's also technically touching Russia over the Bering Strait in the winter between the Big & Small Diomede Islands iirc

Yea, that is 100% true, but Canada ALWAYS touches Alaska.
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Postby Adidasia » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:51 am

The Transhuman Union wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So Canada gets Russia as well.


But if Canada gets Alaska and so does Russia...
This world is a simulation.

Here's the thing though, Russia is bigger than Canada so Russia would get Canada and, subsequently, Alaska.

Checkmate штани-носітель
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Postby Godular » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:52 am

The Transhuman Union wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So Canada gets Russia as well.


But if Canada gets Alaska and so does Russia...
This world is a simulation.


There is neither a spoon nor a Falkland Islands
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