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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:27 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:But that interior finish is so ghastly.

That's military efficiency for you. It is all very ergonomic and userfriendly, now get into the cockpit!


But there isn't any sense of style here, Hurde. I mean, sure, they're efficient, but look like bag ladies!
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:17 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:That's military efficiency for you. It is all very ergonomic and userfriendly, now get into the cockpit!

But there isn't any sense of style here, Hurde. I mean, sure, they're efficient, but look like bag ladies!

We went from the usual tired old Falklands theme to mecha combat. Amazing how these threads tend to evolve.


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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:18 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:But there isn't any sense of style here, Hurde. I mean, sure, they're efficient, but look like bag ladies!

We went from the usual tired old Falklands theme to mecha combat. Amazing how these threads tend to evolve.

Mechas are inefficient. When you need more power, just build bigger tanks with bigger guns.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:23 pm

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Hurdergaryp wrote:We went from the usual tired old Falklands theme to mecha combat. Amazing how these threads tend to evolve.

Mechas are inefficient. When you need more power, just build bigger tanks with bigger guns.
Treads > legs. QED

Now that reminds me of a thread that went on for a certain amount of pages earlier this year. NationStates General tends to recycle themes ad infinitum, if only because it is so much easier.


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Postby Auze » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:26 pm

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Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:But there isn't any sense of style here, Hurde. I mean, sure, they're efficient, but look like bag ladies!

We went from the usual tired old Falklands theme to mecha combat. Amazing how these threads tend to evolve.

What I'm hearing is turn the islands into a giant sheep-powered mecha.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:26 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Mechas are inefficient. When you need more power, just build bigger tanks with bigger guns.
Treads > legs. QED

Now that reminds me of a thread that went on for a certain amount of pages earlier this year. NationStates General tends to recycle themes ad infinitum, if only because it is so much easier.

Some threads are in a holding pattern half the time, so it makes sense.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:38 pm

I have a radical, never before though of idea.


Why don't we give Argentina to the Falklands? Boom, problem solved, the Falklands gets to remain a British possession and the Argentinians get to have there islands.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:52 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:I have a radical, never before though of idea.


Why don't we give Argentina to the Falklands? Boom, problem solved, the Falklands gets to remain a British possession and the Argentinians get to have there islands.


You're the seventh person or so to post this idea.
It is however still great. Everybody gets what they want. I do not understand why people keep ignoring it.

Must still be crying over the football match.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:53 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:I have a radical, never before though of idea.


Why don't we give Argentina to the Falklands? Boom, problem solved, the Falklands gets to remain a British possession and the Argentinians get to have there islands.


You're the seventh person or so to post this idea.
It is however still great. Everybody gets what they want. I do not understand why people keep ignoring it.

Must still be crying over the football match.


Damn, and here I thought my comment had some actual wit.
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Postby Adab » Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:32 pm

The Falklanders have made their will clear more than once, and Argentina should respect it.

This reminds me of the situation in Gibraltar in 2002. Britain stated it was willing to share sovereignty of Gibraltar with Spain and said that the decision lay with the Gibraltarians, whereupon they held a referendum and overwhelmingly rejected the proposal. Something similar would probably happen should Britain for some reason ever consider sharing or even transferring sovereignty over the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands would hold (yet another) referendum and reject any form of Argentinian rule and the status quo would be preserved. But really, allowing even the slightest Argentinian involvement in the islands - especially without a referendum - would amount to a farcical political suicide for the British government, considering that the Falklanders prefer to stay with Britain and the memory of the war is still pretty fresh.
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Postby Grossdeutsches-Reich » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:42 am

Adab wrote:The Falklanders have made their will clear more than once, and Argentina should respect it.

This reminds me of the situation in Gibraltar in 2002. Britain stated it was willing to share sovereignty of Gibraltar with Spain and said that the decision lay with the Gibraltarians, whereupon they held a referendum and overwhelmingly rejected the proposal. Something similar would probably happen should Britain for some reason ever consider sharing or even transferring sovereignty over the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands would hold (yet another) referendum and reject any form of Argentinian rule and the status quo would be preserved. But really, allowing even the slightest Argentinian involvement in the islands - especially without a referendum - would amount to a farcical political suicide for the British government, considering that the Falklanders prefer to stay with Britain and the memory of the war is still pretty fresh.


false! these are not falklanders ( it is caleed MALVINA!!!) but were brought were after british invaded and deported all natives. it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!
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Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Adab wrote:The Falklanders have made their will clear more than once, and Argentina should respect it.

This reminds me of the situation in Gibraltar in 2002. Britain stated it was willing to share sovereignty of Gibraltar with Spain and said that the decision lay with the Gibraltarians, whereupon they held a referendum and overwhelmingly rejected the proposal. Something similar would probably happen should Britain for some reason ever consider sharing or even transferring sovereignty over the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands would hold (yet another) referendum and reject any form of Argentinian rule and the status quo would be preserved. But really, allowing even the slightest Argentinian involvement in the islands - especially without a referendum - would amount to a farcical political suicide for the British government, considering that the Falklanders prefer to stay with Britain and the memory of the war is still pretty fresh.


false! these are not falklanders ( it is caleed MALVINA!!!) but were brought were after british invaded and deported all natives. it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!


But the natives remain, under British protection. It is the Argentina’s who endangered the natives with their reckless and criminal use of land mines during an illegal war!
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:57 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:after british invaded and deported all natives.

What natives?
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!

Friendly reminder that many areas in the south and west of Germany are closer to other capitals than Berlin.

Also, if London was 1000x farther from Stanley than Buenos Aires, either the Falklands would have to be in Argentina itself, or London would have to be in space.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:57 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Adab wrote:The Falklanders have made their will clear more than once, and Argentina should respect it.

This reminds me of the situation in Gibraltar in 2002. Britain stated it was willing to share sovereignty of Gibraltar with Spain and said that the decision lay with the Gibraltarians, whereupon they held a referendum and overwhelmingly rejected the proposal. Something similar would probably happen should Britain for some reason ever consider sharing or even transferring sovereignty over the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands would hold (yet another) referendum and reject any form of Argentinian rule and the status quo would be preserved. But really, allowing even the slightest Argentinian involvement in the islands - especially without a referendum - would amount to a farcical political suicide for the British government, considering that the Falklanders prefer to stay with Britain and the memory of the war is still pretty fresh.


false! these are not falklanders ( it is caleed MALVINA!!!) but were brought were after british invaded and deported all natives. it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!

I'm sorry mate, but you are talking complete shite. You are starting to sound like a broken record, constantly playing the "it is closer so it must belong to them!" tune. Your logic fails miserably. Proximity by itself doesn't say anything about ownership. If it did, then The Channel Islands would belong to France, and Alaska would belong to Canada.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:16 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Adab wrote:The Falklanders have made their will clear more than once, and Argentina should respect it.

This reminds me of the situation in Gibraltar in 2002. Britain stated it was willing to share sovereignty of Gibraltar with Spain and said that the decision lay with the Gibraltarians, whereupon they held a referendum and overwhelmingly rejected the proposal. Something similar would probably happen should Britain for some reason ever consider sharing or even transferring sovereignty over the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands would hold (yet another) referendum and reject any form of Argentinian rule and the status quo would be preserved. But really, allowing even the slightest Argentinian involvement in the islands - especially without a referendum - would amount to a farcical political suicide for the British government, considering that the Falklanders prefer to stay with Britain and the memory of the war is still pretty fresh.


false! these are not falklanders ( it is caleed MALVINA!!!) but were brought were after british invaded and deported all natives. it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!


Are you ever actually going to provide sources for your claims or not?
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Postby Godular » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:19 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Adab wrote:The Falklanders have made their will clear more than once, and Argentina should respect it.

This reminds me of the situation in Gibraltar in 2002. Britain stated it was willing to share sovereignty of Gibraltar with Spain and said that the decision lay with the Gibraltarians, whereupon they held a referendum and overwhelmingly rejected the proposal. Something similar would probably happen should Britain for some reason ever consider sharing or even transferring sovereignty over the Falklands to Argentina. The Falklands would hold (yet another) referendum and reject any form of Argentinian rule and the status quo would be preserved. But really, allowing even the slightest Argentinian involvement in the islands - especially without a referendum - would amount to a farcical political suicide for the British government, considering that the Falklanders prefer to stay with Britain and the memory of the war is still pretty fresh.


false! these are not falklanders ( it is caleed MALVINA!!!) but were brought were after british invaded and deported all natives.


FALSE! The penguins are still there.

it is argentinean land after all,


FALSE! The Argentines never owned it to begin with, and STILL managed to lose it.

the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!


STUPID AND IRRELEVANT! Stop acting as if that line is some kind of mystical victory condition. It is not, and you should feel bad for repeating it.

(wanted to test whether using a similar speech pattern might actually get them to listen)
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:21 am

Petrolheadia wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:after british invaded and deported all natives.

What natives?
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!

Friendly reminder that many areas in the south and west of Germany are closer to other capitals than Berlin.

Also, if London was 1000x farther from Stanley than Buenos Aires, either the Falklands would have to be in Argentina itself, or London would have to be in space.


And there are parts of Argentina that are closer to Santiago than they are to Buenos Aires, so must be ceded to Chile immediately under this logic.
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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:39 am

Vassenor wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:What natives?

Friendly reminder that many areas in the south and west of Germany are closer to other capitals than Berlin.

Also, if London was 1000x farther from Stanley than Buenos Aires, either the Falklands would have to be in Argentina itself, or London would have to be in space.


And there are parts of Argentina that are closer to Santiago than they are to Buenos Aires, so must be ceded to Chile immediately under this logic.


It's settled. Argentina belongs to Chile.

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Postby Ieskarios » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:46 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:it is argentinean land after all, the distance to the country of argentinea and buenos aire is 1000x closer than to britian and london.!!

Does this mean that I, in fact, own my neighbor's backyard and not the landlord? After all, I'm much closer to it than she is.
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And there are parts of Argentina that are closer to Santiago than they are to Buenos Aires, so must be ceded to Chile immediately under this logic.



Patagonia was once an independent nation. Maybe it should secede from Argentina?

And GD-R is doing some serious projection here. Know who actually forcibly removed islanders? The Spanish ancestors of the Argentines. He is literally accusing the Brits of the very thing Argentina has done!

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Give the islands independence with strong trade relations with Argentina and the UK. Make it a Commonwealth nation. Give all islanders Argentinian and British citizenship.
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KingFerdinand1 wrote:No. The Citizens Obviously Want To Be European, So Should Be Allowed.


We didn't think to give them a say over Brexit, so we don't know that.
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