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Postby Junkyard America » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:38 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls


Care to explain how instead of just spouting Junta propaganda? Thanks.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:38 am

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Postby Grossdeutsches-Reich » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:42 am

Junkyard America wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls


Care to explain how instead of just spouting Junta propaganda? Thanks.


This is actual historical fact what I am saying. UUnlike you I care for history and see beyond the mainstraem fake news. It takes alot of reading and strategic thinking to understand the situaton back then, I am very good at that, as I watch a lot of documentaries and read books about htat period and not repeat british bbc news.

you can look up at google earth, malvina (falkland) is way closer to argentina then london.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:42 am

Well, we gave Hong Kong back. Argentina doesn't try to control their region like China, so are they really that bad?
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Postby Kul Ibla » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:42 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls


Actually it isn't. The Falklanders call it Falkland. Just like we accept the name of France for the country named France by the actual French, just like we accept the name Italy for the country named Italia by the actual Italians, so we accept the name Falkland Islands used by the very people living there.

The Falklands were uninhabited until British people inhabited it. That makes the islands even more British than the British isles, which were inhabited by Kelts and even older nations before the Ango-Saxons came to shore.

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Postby Supercellium » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:42 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls

Except the Falklands don't want to join Argentina.

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Postby Godular » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:43 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls


Proximity means nothing, and it was never theirs to 'reclaim' in the first place. Your definition of 'criminal' needs some serious review.
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Postby Durzan » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:43 am

Durzan wrote:Make them independent, but have them join the British Commonwealth... if this isn't the case already. That way Argentina is forced to recognize them as a sovereign nation instead of a British Colony that in their view, rightfully belongs to them.

Have the newly christened Falkland Republic (or whatever name the Falkland government decides to call themselves) form a treaty with Argentina allowing them to establish a small military base on one of the islands (for a fee of course). Also allow the British Navy to do the same.

All parties win, the islanders technically self-governing yet still part of the British Empire for all intents and purposes, Argentina has access and influence on the Island(s) which is probably what they really wanted anyway, and it it helps foster good relations between all three parties.


Quoting again because I updated the answer, and most people who have commented since have probably not seen it.

Note: Having Argentina officially recognize the Falklands as an independent nation and drop their claims in exchange for the leasing of land for a military base might be a way to get them to shut up about this.
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Postby Grossdeutsches-Reich » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:43 am

Supercellium wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls

Except the Falklands don't want to join Argentina.


bc all malvinas were foced off by britsh military and replaced by occupiers who were gifted houses there
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls

In what way is Britain "harmful"? Go find some sources to back up that claim. I'll wait.

Also, British what? Crimenls? What's that?

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:bc all malvinas were foced off by britsh military and replaced by occupiers who were gifted houses there

Source please.
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Postby Junkyard America » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Junkyard America wrote:
Care to explain how instead of just spouting Junta propaganda? Thanks.


This is actual historical fact what I am saying. UUnlike you I care for history and see beyond the mainstraem fake news. It takes alot of reading and strategic thinking to understand the situaton back then, I am very good at that, as I watch a lot of documentaries and read books about htat period and not repeat british bbc news.

you can look up at google earth, malvina (falkland) is way closer to argentina then london.


Unlike you, I know actual history and I am aware that the Falkland Islands voted to stay British. But I'm sure that's fake news.

And by your logic, what? Should Alaska be given to Canada or Russia? Hell, should China give Manchuria to Russia? "It's closer to us" that's faulty logic.

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Postby Scottish Socialists » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:45 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Junkyard America wrote:
Care to explain how instead of just spouting Junta propaganda? Thanks.


This is actual historical fact what I am saying. UUnlike you I care for history and see beyond the mainstraem fake news. It takes alot of reading and strategic thinking to understand the situaton back then, I am very good at that, as I watch a lot of documentaries and read books about htat period and not repeat british bbc news.

you can look up at google earth, malvina (falkland) is way closer to argentina then london.

So, you watched Argentine news instead of BBC then?
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Postby Grossdeutsches-Reich » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:45 am

Godular wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:falklands is acually malvina and closer to argentina than harmful britain. in 82 they reclaimed soil and were forced off by british crimenls


Proximity means nothing, and it was never theirs to 'reclaim' in the first place. Your definition of 'criminal' needs some serious review.


while i like many of thachers politics, she shud have given the malvinas up and not make war against proud strong argentina over argentinan soil.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:45 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Junkyard America wrote:
Care to explain how instead of just spouting Junta propaganda? Thanks.


This is actual historical fact what I am saying. UUnlike you I care for history and see beyond the mainstraem fake news. It takes alot of reading and strategic thinking to understand the situaton back then, I am very good at that, as I watch a lot of documentaries and read books about htat period and not repeat british bbc news.

you can look up at google earth, malvina (falkland) is way closer to argentina then london.

Yea, I mean it is closer. That's a fact. It's just that he/she wants you to explain.
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Postby Supercellium » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:45 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Supercellium wrote:Except the Falklands don't want to join Argentina.


bc all malvinas were foced off by britsh military and replaced by occupiers who were gifted houses there


And you've got any proof to back up that claim? Thought so.

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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:46 am

Junkyard America wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
This is actual historical fact what I am saying. UUnlike you I care for history and see beyond the mainstraem fake news. It takes alot of reading and strategic thinking to understand the situaton back then, I am very good at that, as I watch a lot of documentaries and read books about htat period and not repeat british bbc news.

you can look up at google earth, malvina (falkland) is way closer to argentina then london.


Unlike you, I know actual history and I am aware that the Falkland Islands voted to stay British. But I'm sure that's fake news.

And by your logic, what? Should Alaska be given to Canada or Russia? Hell, should China give Manchuria to Russia? "It's closer to us" that's faulty logic.

If the Falklands voted by plebiscite, then they have every right to remain with Britain.
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Postby Junkyard America » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:46 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Supercellium wrote:Except the Falklands don't want to join Argentina.


bc all malvinas were foced off by britsh military and replaced by occupiers who were gifted houses there


I think you've been watching the wrong channels.

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Postby Grossdeutsches-Reich » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:46 am

The South Falls wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
This is actual historical fact what I am saying. UUnlike you I care for history and see beyond the mainstraem fake news. It takes alot of reading and strategic thinking to understand the situaton back then, I am very good at that, as I watch a lot of documentaries and read books about htat period and not repeat british bbc news.

you can look up at google earth, malvina (falkland) is way closer to argentina then london.

Yea, I mean it is closer. That's a fact. It's just that he/she wants you to explain.


look at a map. any map, but not british. it is only logical and rationall that malvina island is argentinan and not like ireland britain.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:47 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Godular wrote:
Proximity means nothing, and it was never theirs to 'reclaim' in the first place. Your definition of 'criminal' needs some serious review.


while i like many of thachers politics, she shud have given the malvinas up and not make war against proud strong argentina over argentinan soil.

I like how you throw these kinds of words in your sentences in an attempt to make your claims look more credible than they really are...
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Postby Junkyard America » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:47 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Godular wrote:
Proximity means nothing, and it was never theirs to 'reclaim' in the first place. Your definition of 'criminal' needs some serious review.


while i like many of thachers politics, she shud have given the malvinas up and not make war against *proud strong argentina over argentinan soil.


*controlled by a brutal military junta

Just added that for you.

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:48 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:look at a map. any map, but not british. it is only logical and rationall that malvina island is argentinan and not like ireland britain.

If that is logical and rational, then I am the bloody Queen...
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Postby Grossdeutsches-Reich » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:48 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
while i like many of thachers politics, she shud have given the malvinas up and not make war against proud strong argentina over argentinan soil.

I like how you throw these kinds of words in your sentences in an attempt to make your claims look more credible than they really are...


you have no idea abouth actual historry. No sane person cann think that around globe would belong to country england, it is the caost distence what matter so is argentine closest.
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Postby The South Falls » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:49 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Yea, I mean it is closer. That's a fact. It's just that he/she wants you to explain.


look at a map. any map, but not british. it is only logical and rationall that malvina island is argentinan and not like ireland britain.

They voted by plebiscite to remain there. They voted, with 91% turnout, 1,513 to 3 to stay an overseas territory. They want it, they can have it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_ ... ndum,_2013
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Postby Godular » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:49 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
Godular wrote:
Proximity means nothing, and it was never theirs to 'reclaim' in the first place. Your definition of 'criminal' needs some serious review.


while i like many of thachers politics, she shud have given the malvinas up and not make war against proud strong argentina over argentinan soil.


No. That's beyond stupid. Argentina invaded the territory of another nation, and was soundly and justly rebuffed in turn. It was not theirs to claim, and to suggest otherwise evinces a detachment from reality further indicated by your insistence that u r gud at histry.
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Postby Scottish Socialists » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:50 am

Grossdeutsches-Reich wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I like how you throw these kinds of words in your sentences in an attempt to make your claims look more credible than they really are...


you have no idea abouth actual historry. No sane person cann think that around globe would belong to country england, it is the caost distence what matter so is argentine closest.

Distance.
Does.
Not.
Make.
A.
Difference.

They voted to stay with the UK.

They were found by the UK.

They will remain with the UK.
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