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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:35 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Christmas Pudding wrote:I can't find another non-tabloid source on Google. I looked on Deutsche Welle, couldn't find anything there either.

Maybe one of our German-speaking friends can find a high quality German source which talks about this?

There isn't any because it's untrue nonsense.


ABC News uploaded a video about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MryxWisDTZI
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:35 pm


That just makes me question my life. But, should we really force porn to be something it isn't? It's porn! It's supposed to be underground!
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:35 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:Wait..........

So state sanctioned pornography is supposed to garner respect for females?!

Heh?!!?


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:35 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Why do I feel you are the sort of person to hijack this shitty idea and promote Nazi-themed porn in Germany?

Video title sample: "Gud Aryan Boi and gud Aryan grill creampie".

I can see it now, a remake of "Ilsa, she wolf of the SS", and we cast Stormy Daniels as Ilsa.

"COME HERE YOU NAUGHTY TRUMP".


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Postby Cryptomypt » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:37 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I would love to see Theresa May approved porn on the BBC. It would be hilarious.


read that as theresa may porn and stared into space crying for about half an hour
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Postby Galloism » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:37 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:There isn't any because it's untrue nonsense.


ABC News uploaded a video about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MryxWisDTZI

I don't think that's actually ABC news (although news has gone to such shit, it's hard to be sure).

Here's a link to the proposal, from RT.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:38 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
ABC News uploaded a video about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MryxWisDTZI

I don't think that's actually ABC news (although news has gone to such shit, it's hard to be sure).

Here's a link to the proposal, from RT.


Yeah, I was seeing that too.
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Postby Christmas Pudding » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:40 pm

Galloism wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
ABC News uploaded a video about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MryxWisDTZI

I don't think that's actually ABC news (although news has gone to such shit, it's hard to be sure).

Here's a link to the proposal, from RT.

Ran it through Google Translate. Apparently this is already a thing in Sweden, never knew that!

The state party convention may decide:

The Federal Party Congress may decide:

"Dirty Diaries" also in Germany!
Mainstream porn usually shows sexist and racist stereotypes in which consensus is not an issue and standardizes the particular "optimal" body type. In these films, sex seems more like a performance or competitive sport: everything seems to work right away, there is no communication between the performers, no trial and error, failure and trying new things out. These forms of representation in mainstream porn can influence consumers in their sexuality and in the image of man. Even young people start too often with completely unrealistic ideas in their sexual life and do not have the opportunity to develop a self-confident relationship with their body, their sexuality and health. It's about supplementing extracurricular education.

Sweden tackled this problem with the "Dirty Diaries". The "Dirty Diaries" are a feminist porn collection funded by the Swedish State Film Institute in 2009, showing people and sexuality in all their diversity, far from standard mainstream porn.

This feminist porn includes at least the following aspects:

Directors and producers who represent the diversity of society
Good and fair working conditions and pay
The representation of a variety of body shapes, gender, ethnic origin, sexuality and sexual practices
The realistic representation of desire of all involved
Prevention (if not, then only in (documented) consensus)
The explicit presentation of consensus and communication
 
So there is not one feminist porn movie. Feminist porn is the entirety of all the movies following the definitions.

Of course, the introduction and availability of feminist porn can not replace a fundamental reform of sex education, but merely complement it. In support, however, we demand that the availability of feminist pornography be referred to in sex education lessons at schools.

Since free pornography is consumed primarily on the Internet, feminist pornography must also be free of charge, permanent and low-threshold. Therefore, we demand a film promotion on the Swedish model.
 
Such film funding is possible through various channels:

Sexual education via the state and federal headquarters (s) for political education and the state and federal headquarters (s) for health education
As a film promotion. This instrument is conceivable in the context of a call for tenders with predetermined minimum criteria, a free application for funding or an award ceremony. In doing so, attention must be paid to the list of criteria, their verifiability and / or the composition of the Commission.
Through the purchase and the free availability in the online library of public broadcasters. We demand that age rating for pornography be reviewed and, if necessary, downgraded.
 
We demand that the mentioned channels be audited and that the funding be commenced through the appropriate channels and at an effective level.

We call on the members of the SPD parliamentary group and the SPD factions in the state parliaments to act accordingly.

Recommendation of the Application Commission Acceptance in the version of the Application Commission (K)
 
Paragraphs 1 and 2 remain unchanged. Paragraphs 3-5 become justification. (From "This feminist porn includes ......" to "..... referenced on the availability of feminist porn."
The remaining paragraphs remain unchanged and are retained.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:44 pm

Presumably it is going to be funded by the Rothschilds, the Freemasons, and the International Jewish Conspiracy?
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:45 pm

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Presumably it is going to be funded by the Rothschilds, the Freemasons, and the International Jewish Conspiracy?

Don't forget the communists.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:46 pm

The South Falls wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Why do I feel you are the sort of person to hijack this shitty idea and promote Nazi-themed porn in Germany?

Video title sample: "Gud Aryan Boi and gud Aryan grill creampie".

Or: "Bad non-aryan and gud Aryan girl are arrested by gestapo, gestapo creampie."

#IAmNotFunny


"Gestapo member barebacks bad non-aryan"

Now in your German feminist homosexual porn category.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:48 pm

Christmas Pudding wrote:
Galloism wrote:I don't think that's actually ABC news (although news has gone to such shit, it's hard to be sure).

Here's a link to the proposal, from RT.

Ran it through Google Translate. Apparently this is already a thing in Sweden, never knew that!

The state party convention may decide:

The Federal Party Congress may decide:

"Dirty Diaries" also in Germany!
Mainstream porn usually shows sexist and racist stereotypes in which consensus is not an issue and standardizes the particular "optimal" body type. In these films, sex seems more like a performance or competitive sport: everything seems to work right away, there is no communication between the performers, no trial and error, failure and trying new things out. These forms of representation in mainstream porn can influence consumers in their sexuality and in the image of man. Even young people start too often with completely unrealistic ideas in their sexual life and do not have the opportunity to develop a self-confident relationship with their body, their sexuality and health. It's about supplementing extracurricular education.

Sweden tackled this problem with the "Dirty Diaries". The "Dirty Diaries" are a feminist porn collection funded by the Swedish State Film Institute in 2009, showing people and sexuality in all their diversity, far from standard mainstream porn.

This feminist porn includes at least the following aspects:

Directors and producers who represent the diversity of society
Good and fair working conditions and pay
The representation of a variety of body shapes, gender, ethnic origin, sexuality and sexual practices
The realistic representation of desire of all involved
Prevention (if not, then only in (documented) consensus)
The explicit presentation of consensus and communication
 
So there is not one feminist porn movie. Feminist porn is the entirety of all the movies following the definitions.

Of course, the introduction and availability of feminist porn can not replace a fundamental reform of sex education, but merely complement it. In support, however, we demand that the availability of feminist pornography be referred to in sex education lessons at schools.

Since free pornography is consumed primarily on the Internet, feminist pornography must also be free of charge, permanent and low-threshold. Therefore, we demand a film promotion on the Swedish model.
 
Such film funding is possible through various channels:

Sexual education via the state and federal headquarters (s) for political education and the state and federal headquarters (s) for health education
As a film promotion. This instrument is conceivable in the context of a call for tenders with predetermined minimum criteria, a free application for funding or an award ceremony. In doing so, attention must be paid to the list of criteria, their verifiability and / or the composition of the Commission.
Through the purchase and the free availability in the online library of public broadcasters. We demand that age rating for pornography be reviewed and, if necessary, downgraded.
 
We demand that the mentioned channels be audited and that the funding be commenced through the appropriate channels and at an effective level.

We call on the members of the SPD parliamentary group and the SPD factions in the state parliaments to act accordingly.

Recommendation of the Application Commission Acceptance in the version of the Application Commission (K)
 
Paragraphs 1 and 2 remain unchanged. Paragraphs 3-5 become justification. (From "This feminist porn includes ......" to "..... referenced on the availability of feminist porn."
The remaining paragraphs remain unchanged and are retained.


> Low-threshold
Oh this is great. :rofl:
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:51 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Why do I feel you are the sort of person to hijack this shitty idea and promote Nazi-themed porn in Germany?

Video title sample: "Gud Aryan Boi and gud Aryan grill creampie".


Holy fuck, I can't stop laughing.


What I did, I had to do for the lulz.

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Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Why do I feel you are the sort of person to hijack this shitty idea and promote Nazi-themed porn in Germany?

Video title sample: "Gud Aryan Boi and gud Aryan grill creampie".

I can see it now, a remake of "Ilsa, she wolf of the SS", and we cast Stormy Daniels as Ilsa.

"COME HERE YOU NAUGHTY TRUMP".


We could just release the secret porn tape of Trump and Stormy Daniels into Germany and have them watch it.

Because you know there probably is a secret porn tape of Trump and Stormy Daniels porking it on.
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Postby Greater Independent Colorado » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:51 pm

As entertaining as this is, I don't really see what they think they're gonna accomplish here.
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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:53 pm

Okay wait. State funded pornography is fine but the Christians parties scoff at same-sex marriage? Wat?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:53 pm

'educational state-funded feminist pornography'

Fuck it, free porn is good porn.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:54 pm

Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Okay wait. State funded pornography is fine but the Christians parties scoff at same-sex marriage? Wat?


Hey, we have a pretty voyeuristic deity.

Might as well dig in the spoils.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:55 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Holy fuck, I can't stop laughing.


What I did, I had to do for the lulz.

Ethel mermania wrote:I can see it now, a remake of "Ilsa, she wolf of the SS", and we cast Stormy Daniels as Ilsa.

"COME HERE YOU NAUGHTY TRUMP".


We could just release the secret porn tape of Trump and Stormy Daniels into Germany and have them watch it.

Because you know there probably is a secret porn tape of Trump and Stormy Daniels porking it on.


For 186,000, I would damm well demand a video remembrance too.
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Postby Hirota » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:55 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:
Christmas Pudding wrote:I can't find another non-tabloid source on Google. I looked on Deutsche Welle, couldn't find anything there either.

Maybe one of our German-speaking friends can find a high quality German source which talks about this?

There isn't any because it's untrue nonsense.
You are wrong. Plenty of news articles in German speaking media that reference this:

https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/will-di ... rnos-sehen

https://m.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/partei ... 38052.html

https://m.tagesspiegel.de/politik/haral ... 67430.html

https://mobil.n-tv.de/politik/SPD-Berli ... 64858.html

Now, I'm not a German speaker, I had to rely on Google translate. But the jist I'm getting is the youth wing of the SFD are advocating for it. I'm not sure how much traction it has amongst the mainstream of the party, never mind the wider ruling coalition.

The really dumb part of this is that there appears to be advocacy to make this kinda sorta free and accessible for children because regular porn is so widespread.

Id like to think that most people would tend to argue that giving children more of a bad thing is unlikely to improve things.
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:56 pm

Greater Independent Colorado wrote:As entertaining as this is, I don't really see what they think they're gonna accomplish here.

Look. Just replace "feminist porn" with "video games", then decide whether the idea of a local government funding start-ups or incubators (no pun intended) in that industry is weird.

All you need to do is get over the "haha, he said porn" reaction, and the whole thing is no longer worth a news story.
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Postby Christmas Pudding » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Hirota wrote:
The Parkus Empire wrote:There isn't any because it's untrue nonsense.
You are wrong. Plenty of news articles in German speaking media that reference this:

https://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/will-di ... rnos-sehen

https://m.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/partei ... 38052.html

https://m.tagesspiegel.de/politik/haral ... 67430.html

https://mobil.n-tv.de/politik/SPD-Berli ... 64858.html

Now, I'm not a German speaker, I had to rely on Google translate. But the jist I'm getting is you youth wing of the SFD are advocating for it. I'm not sure how much traction it has amongst the mainstream of the party, never mind the wider ruling coalition.

Thanks for posting those, highly appreciated!

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Postby Sahansahiye Iran » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:57 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Sahansahiye Iran wrote:Okay wait. State funded pornography is fine but the Christians parties scoff at same-sex marriage? Wat?


Hey, we have a pretty voyeuristic deity.

Might as well dig in the spoils.

"And God told Moses, 'Your dominatrices shall fuck your men in public". And it was so."

Look it up. That's a legit verse. Exodus 21:20-21
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