Italy turns away ship of 600 illegal migrants

[Mayakava]

europe has its own problem right now economically speaking its not the best moment to welcome people when your country already has a problem helping their own inhabitants Italy has suffered the most

[Forund]

Only whites have lived in Italy for the past 2000 years though.

African Muslims had a stake in Italy too. Ever heard of the Aghlabids?

North African muslims not black people even then Italy has always been a white majority landmass for the last 2000 years. THIS IS NOT AMERICA dont apply that diversity is our strength bull please.

[Salandriagado]

"White culture" does not exist, and has never existed.

Google european culture

There is no such thing. There are essentially zero similarities between, for example, Scottish and Serbian cultures.

This is an absolute and unmitigated lie.

Only white people have lived in Italy for the past two millenia, if Italy wasnt white IT WOULDNT BE DIVERSE RIGHT NOW.

Again: you are lying. There has been absolutely no point in all of history in which there have been no black people living in Italy. Not one.

Again, literally thousands of years.

Europe is not America

And that's why the statement that I made is true. Since apparently blatantly obvious isn't quite adequate for you, I'll say it outright: it's since the Roman Republic.

And? Zero of those kingdoms were ever defined racially, in any way, shape, or form

They were all made of white people.

No they weren't. Not exclusively, at any rate.

[Salandriagado]

No, I'm stating facts: you will not find one single person in Europe who isn't partially Egyptian, Algerian, Persian, Mongol, etc. Not a single one.

Wait what

Exponential growth is a bitch. If you have European ancestry, you absolutely certainly have direct ancestry from all of those groups.

[Fahran]

White culture is abhorred in europe

There's no such thing as white culture or black culture (unless you mean African Americans or some other creole/mixed population). There are French, Italian, English, German, Polish, and Hungarian cultures, of course. You don't have to be white to belong to any of those though.

meaning the refugees will only follow their country's cultures

Not necessarily, and this is coming from someone who is wholly in favor of ethnic nationalism so long as it's relatively inclusive. White nationalists do not help the cause though, principally because they usually aren't patriots or nationalists in any clear sense.

so no there will be no more Italy once Italians are a minority.

I'd concur with this. Would you consider Mario Balotelli Italian?

Whats interesting is you support this, the wholesale genetic transformation of a nation.

Actually, I'm quite indifferent to it as a rule. Cultural changes concern me far more.

Italian natives have ancestors who labored and bled for centuries yet you hand their country over to others who never bled for the land.

Do you know much about Italian ethnic genesis? It began with the earliest Europeans. Then Indo-Europeans settled on the peninsula. This produced the Tyrrhenians, who may have had some Anatolian ancestry. Eventually the Italic peoples arose. Then the Greeks arrived. Then multiple Gallic invasions occurred - not to mention Gallic or Pre-Indo-European peoples living in the north. These were melted together by the Romans, who came from a region called Latium and yet claimed descent from the ancient Trojans in their cultural myths. Then the empire collapsed and scores of Germanic tribes occupied the area. Goths, Vandals, Lombards, Burgundians, etc. Then Belisarius reconquered it - he was a Thracian - and Greeks settled there again. Then the Franks came. Then the Arabs and Moors came. By the medieval period, the genetics and culture had completely changed. Then you get a couple German, French, and Spanish invasions. Italian has been around as a language probably since Florentine emerged as an influential literary dialect.

[Salandriagado]

And? Zero of those kingdoms were ever defined racially, in any way, shape, or form

They were all made of white people.

During a time when Europe didn't have much immigration.

Again, false: there were large-scale movements of people across the Mediterranean throughout the period under discussion. Probably higher than today, as a percentage of the population.

[Salandriagado]

europe has its own problem right now economically speaking its not the best moment to welcome people when your country already has a problem helping their own inhabitants Italy has suffered the most

You realise Italy has a massive population decline problem, right? To the point that they're literally paying people to have babies, and it still isn't enough.

[Salandriagado]

African Muslims had a stake in Italy too. Ever heard of the Aghlabids?

North African muslims not black people even then Italy has always been a white majority landmass for the last 2000 years. THIS IS NOT AMERICA dont apply that diversity is our strength bull please.

The immigrants in question are also predominantly North African or Arabic, and probably Muslim.

[Forund]

here is no such thing. There are essentially zero similarities between, for example, Scottish and Serbian cultures.

Yes so white culture is real.

Again: you are lying. There has been absolutely no point in all of history in which there have been no black people living in Italy. Not one.

What malarky. Blacks were a rarity in Europe until colonial times. Also there are no actual native blacks dating back to the neolithic found in Europe so this doesnt justify making Italy become a black country. Italy has always been white for the last 2000 years.

And that's why the statement that I made is true. Since apparently blatantly obvious isn't quite adequate for you, I'll say it outright: it's since the Roman Republic.

Rome wasnt diverse, the european areas were always white majority, it was only the middle eastern and north african areas that were not white majority for obvious reasons.

No they weren't. Not exclusively, at any rate.

Yes they were

[Forund]

europe has its own problem right now economically speaking its not the best moment to welcome people when your country already has a problem helping their own inhabitants Italy has suffered the most

You realise Italy has a massive population decline problem, right? To the point that they're literally paying people to have babies, and it still isn't enough.

So why should italians turn their peninsula into Africa rather than just be promoted to have more babies?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

African Muslims had a stake in Italy too. Ever heard of the Aghlabids?

North African muslims not black people

There's also no such thing as 'black' people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emirate_of_Sicily

dont apply that diversity is our strength bull please.

Don't put words in people's mouths please.

[Vassenor]

here is no such thing. There are essentially zero similarities between, for example, Scottish and Serbian cultures.

Yes so white culture is real.

Again: you are lying. There has been absolutely no point in all of history in which there have been no black people living in Italy. Not one.

What malarky. Blacks were a rarity in Europe until colonial times. Also there are no actual native blacks dating back to the neolithic found in Europe so this doesnt justify making Italy become a black country. Italy has always been white for the last 2000 years.

And that's why the statement that I made is true. Since apparently blatantly obvious isn't quite adequate for you, I'll say it outright: it's since the Roman Republic.

Rome wasnt diverse, the european areas were always white majority, it was only the middle eastern and north african areas that were not white majority for obvious reasons.

No they weren't. Not exclusively, at any rate.

Yes they were

Define white culture then. In specific terms.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

You realise Italy has a massive population decline problem, right? To the point that they're literally paying people to have babies, and it still isn't enough.

So why should italians turn their peninsula into Africa rather than just be promoted to have more babies?

It won't turn into Africa.

[Fahran]

Again, false: there were large-scale movements of people across the Mediterranean throughout the period under discussion. Probably higher than today, as a percentage of the population.

This happens when you're enslaving hundreds of thousands of people for opposing the might of the empire.

[Salandriagado]

here is no such thing. There are essentially zero similarities between, for example, Scottish and Serbian cultures.

Yes so white culture is real.

No, otherwise there would be a common culture between those two predominantly-white nations. There isn't.

Again: you are lying. There has been absolutely no point in all of history in which there have been no black people living in Italy. Not one.

What malarky. Blacks were a rarity in Europe until colonial times. Also there are no actual native blacks dating back to the neolithic found in Europe so this doesnt justify making Italy become a black country. Italy has always been white for the last 2000 years.

Again, you are lying on all points.

And that's why the statement that I made is true. Since apparently blatantly obvious isn't quite adequate for you, I'll say it outright: it's since the Roman Republic.

Rome wasnt diverse, the european areas were always white majority, it was only the middle eastern and north african areas that were not white majority for obvious reasons.

Not only are you lying, you have entirely forgotten what we were talking about.

No they weren't. Not exclusively, at any rate.

Yes they were

No, they weren't. Stop lying.

You realise Italy has a massive population decline problem, right? To the point that they're literally paying people to have babies, and it still isn't enough.

So why should italians turn their peninsula into Africa rather than just be promoted to have more babies?

Because paying people to have more babies has been tried for the last decade or more, and has failed miserably.

[Forund]

Define white culture then. In specific terms.

European cultures

[Salandriagado]

Again, false: there were large-scale movements of people across the Mediterranean throughout the period under discussion. Probably higher than today, as a percentage of the population.

This happens when you're enslaving hundreds of thousands of people for opposing the might of the empire.

Yes, but I'm also including thousands of years either side of the existence of said Empire.

[Forund]

So why should italians turn their peninsula into Africa rather than just be promoted to have more babies?

It won't turn into Africa.

French Hispaniola turned into Africa, Rhodesia turned into Africa, and South Africa once a beautiful first world country is now a third world shithole.

[Senegalboy]

here is no such thing. There are essentially zero similarities between, for example, Scottish and Serbian cultures.

Yes so white culture is real.

Again: you are lying. There has been absolutely no point in all of history in which there have been no black people living in Italy. Not one.

What malarky. Blacks were a rarity in Europe until colonial times. Also there are no actual native blacks dating back to the neolithic found in Europe so this doesnt justify making Italy become a black country. Italy has always been white for the last 2000 years.

And that's why the statement that I made is true. Since apparently blatantly obvious isn't quite adequate for you, I'll say it outright: it's since the Roman Republic.

Rome wasnt diverse, the european areas were always white majority, it was only the middle eastern and north african areas that were not white majority for obvious reasons.

No they weren't. Not exclusively, at any rate.

Yes they were

No one said that Italy should be made a Black majority nation.
This Black Italy is Impossible to make as sub Saharan Africans make up 0.5% of the Italian population.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yes so white culture is real.

You're telling us that Bosnian culture is the same as Belarusian culture is the same as Spanish culture is the same as British culture etc.?

so this doesnt justify making Italy become a black country.

No one said that.

[Vassenor]

In terms of raw numbers, a 200K increase in the North African population would make them the second-largest ethnic group, with a whole ~850K people.

In a country of almost sixty million, fifty-five million of which are ethnic Italians.

[Vassenor]

It won't turn into Africa.

French Hispaniola turned into Africa, Rhodesia turned into Africa, and South Africa once a beautiful first world country is now a third world shithole.

Would that happen to coincide with when the Apartheid government collapsed?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Define white culture then. In specific terms.

European cultures

The fact that you had to pluralism the the word shows that 'white' culture doesn't exist.

[Fenriis]

I would say everyone is treated equally and fairly here apart from the criminal bankers above the law and migrant rape gangs were covered up. I would say in ordinary life for people wherever they are from are treated fine

I'm not asking for your opinion, I'm asking if the Boers and Tibetans in Britain are treated equally based on facts.

They have the same rights and everything

[Forund]

No, otherwise there would be a common culture between those two predominantly-white nations. There isn't.

Thats stupid since all native europeans are white people meaning whites can have a diversity of cultures yet still be the same race.

Again, you are lying on all points.

There are no medieval records of black majority places in Italy centuries ago so no blacks were a rarity in Italy.

Because paying people to have more babies has been tried for the last decade or more, and has failed miserably.

So its better to just genocide yourself then?

Not only are you lying, you have entirely forgotten what we were talking about.

Rome was never diverse.