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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:41 am

Fenriis wrote:National socialist Germany was the only Nordicist one and no other system had their beliefs. They were a bit weird when they were Nordicists when their leaders like Hitler and Goebels and much of their leaders were Alpine.

White nationalism in general is weird. Go to Stormfront and introduce yourself. You'll find out pretty quickly that a significant number of people who believe that Paganism is more appropriate as a white nationalist religion than Christianity.

Fenriis wrote:They had some brilliant on economics

No. Their economic model predicated on notions of autarky made a world-wide conflict, which they eventually lost, inevitable. They also reduced unemployment by removing undesirables from the labor market and drafting millions of young men into the military. Even before the war, rationing of commodities had become a serious problem and quotas weren't being met. The only people who believe the Nazis pulled off an economic miracle are the people who don't understand the underlying economics.

Fenriis wrote:and resisting international finance

You mean murdering six million Jews, right?

Fenriis wrote:but had had some dumb ideas like Nordicism when over half their population didn't fit the Norse look.

And how many decent Englishmen aren't lily white?

Fenriis wrote:As for my skin tone itself its found in both some slightly dark white people and some light Japanese people and the skin tone can be found in both populations I mean a lot Spaniards I saw are darker than many Japanese people I know.

A consistent white nationalist will not make allowances for you. I'm probably a good deal lighter than you in all likelihood, and they wouldn't make exceptions for me.

Fenriis wrote:As for the mixed thing it depends on the group and the ones I know (I know a few) consider me a ok mix and they believe too much mix racing is bad.

So you're one of the "good ones"? Do you have any sense of pride?

Fenriis wrote:I am against too much mixing too in large scale as it can destroy both populations.

You're against your own existence then. If everyone behaved precisely how your parents behaved, racial purity would no longer exist.

Fenriis wrote:It also depends on how you look with a lot of these people and I don't look Japanese.

Why should physical appearance matter more than culture?

Fenriis wrote:You have to remember its not one group. Many of them like Black pigeon speaks for example have yellow fevour as well.

White nationalists are hypocrites? Color me surprised. You know several Nazis probably had relationships with undesirable women too. They were still racist shit-heads.

Fenriis wrote:Many of them say for the mixed ones if also depends on which tribe they are loyal to.

So they'd have to accept Uncle Ruckus as white? Excellent. According to that logic, most of the black people in the United States can choose to identify as white at any time.

Fenriis wrote:If you actually watch a lot of their work they just want Japan or Hungary style nation states not going full North Korea like you suggest.

No, a lot of them are actively calling for racial states under dictatorships and mass ethnic cleansing.

Fenriis wrote:I am simple against globalism and I believe it needs to be resisted like Italy just did and I don't see them doing anything bad apart from protecting their border

I'm a traditionalist and well to the right of you on most social and cultural matters in all likelihood. You have no idea what you stand for. Most racial nationalists don't.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:55 am

Fahran wrote:
Fenriis wrote:National socialist Germany was the only Nordicist one and no other system had their beliefs. They were a bit weird when they were Nordicists when their leaders like Hitler and Goebels and much of their leaders were Alpine.

White nationalism in general is weird. Go to Stormfront and introduce yourself. You'll find out pretty quickly that a significant number of people who believe that Paganism is more appropriate as a white nationalist religion than Christianity.

Fenriis wrote:They had some brilliant on economics

No. Their economic model predicated on notions of autarky made a world-wide conflict, which they eventually lost, inevitable. They also reduced unemployment by removing undesirables from the labor market and drafting millions of young men into the military. Even before the war, rationing of commodities had become a serious problem and quotas weren't being met. The only people who believe the Nazis pulled off an economic miracle are the people who don't understand the underlying economics.

Fenriis wrote:and resisting international finance

You mean murdering six million Jews, right?

Fenriis wrote:but had had some dumb ideas like Nordicism when over half their population didn't fit the Norse look.

And how many decent Englishmen aren't lily white?

Fenriis wrote:As for my skin tone itself its found in both some slightly dark white people and some light Japanese people and the skin tone can be found in both populations I mean a lot Spaniards I saw are darker than many Japanese people I know.

A consistent white nationalist will not make allowances for you. I'm probably a good deal lighter than you in all likelihood, and they wouldn't make exceptions for me.

Fenriis wrote:As for the mixed thing it depends on the group and the ones I know (I know a few) consider me a ok mix and they believe too much mix racing is bad.

So you're one of the "good ones"? Do you have any sense of pride?

Fenriis wrote:I am against too much mixing too in large scale as it can destroy both populations.

You're against your own existence then. If everyone behaved precisely how your parents behaved, racial purity would no longer exist.

Fenriis wrote:It also depends on how you look with a lot of these people and I don't look Japanese.

Why should physical appearance matter more than culture?

Fenriis wrote:You have to remember its not one group. Many of them like Black pigeon speaks for example have yellow fevour as well.

White nationalists are hypocrites? Color me surprised. You know several Nazis probably had relationships with undesirable women too. They were still racist shit-heads.

Fenriis wrote:Many of them say for the mixed ones if also depends on which tribe they are loyal to.

So they'd have to accept Uncle Ruckus as white? Excellent. According to that logic, most of the black people in the United States can choose to identify as white at any time.

Fenriis wrote:If you actually watch a lot of their work they just want Japan or Hungary style nation states not going full North Korea like you suggest.

No, a lot of them are actively calling for racial states under dictatorships and mass ethnic cleansing.

Fenriis wrote:I am simple against globalism and I believe it needs to be resisted like Italy just did and I don't see them doing anything bad apart from protecting their border

I'm a traditionalist and well to the right of you on most social and cultural matters in all likelihood. You have no idea what you stand for. Most racial nationalists don't.

I never called myself a white nationalist but a anti globalist and anti Zionists and like I said they aren't one movement with a official stand

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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:05 am

Fenriis wrote:I never called myself a white nationalist

You complain about black and brown people immigrating and do not cite cultural differences as the basis for your complaints. You talk about white people being entitled to white countries. You rant about ZOG's. You're pretty blatantly a white supremacist.

Fenriis wrote:but a anti globalist

You may be anti-globalist, but you're not a real nationalist for reasons I've specified previously. You have no loyalty to England or Japan as nations. You do not even comprehend their culture as it truly is. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so concerned about black people integrating into mainstream English society.

Fenriis wrote:and anti Zionists

You do not know what Zionism is either. Hint: it's not a globalist movement and doesn't control financial institutions.

Fenriis wrote:and like I said they aren't one movement with a official stand

I'm well aware. You're only the latest white nationalist I've met.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:16 am

Fahran wrote:
Fenriis wrote:National socialist Germany was the only Nordicist one and no other system had their beliefs. They were a bit weird when they were Nordicists when their leaders like Hitler and Goebels and much of their leaders were Alpine.

White nationalism in general is weird. Go to Stormfront and introduce yourself. You'll find out pretty quickly that a significant number of people who believe that Paganism is more appropriate as a white nationalist religion than Christianity.

Fenriis wrote:They had some brilliant on economics

No. Their economic model predicated on notions of autarky made a world-wide conflict, which they eventually lost, inevitable. They also reduced unemployment by removing undesirables from the labor market and drafting millions of young men into the military. Even before the war, rationing of commodities had become a serious problem and quotas weren't being met. The only people who believe the Nazis pulled off an economic miracle are the people who don't understand the underlying economics.

Fenriis wrote:and resisting international finance

You mean murdering six million Jews, right?

Fenriis wrote:but had had some dumb ideas like Nordicism when over half their population didn't fit the Norse look.

And how many decent Englishmen aren't lily white?

Fenriis wrote:As for my skin tone itself its found in both some slightly dark white people and some light Japanese people and the skin tone can be found in both populations I mean a lot Spaniards I saw are darker than many Japanese people I know.

A consistent white nationalist will not make allowances for you. I'm probably a good deal lighter than you in all likelihood, and they wouldn't make exceptions for me.

Fenriis wrote:As for the mixed thing it depends on the group and the ones I know (I know a few) consider me a ok mix and they believe too much mix racing is bad.

So you're one of the "good ones"? Do you have any sense of pride?

Fenriis wrote:I am against too much mixing too in large scale as it can destroy both populations.

You're against your own existence then. If everyone behaved precisely how your parents behaved, racial purity would no longer exist.

Fenriis wrote:It also depends on how you look with a lot of these people and I don't look Japanese.

Why should physical appearance matter more than culture?

Fenriis wrote:You have to remember its not one group. Many of them like Black pigeon speaks for example have yellow fevour as well.

White nationalists are hypocrites? Color me surprised. You know several Nazis probably had relationships with undesirable women too. They were still racist shit-heads.

Fenriis wrote:Many of them say for the mixed ones if also depends on which tribe they are loyal to.

So they'd have to accept Uncle Ruckus as white? Excellent. According to that logic, most of the black people in the United States can choose to identify as white at any time.

Fenriis wrote:If you actually watch a lot of their work they just want Japan or Hungary style nation states not going full North Korea like you suggest.

No, a lot of them are actively calling for racial states under dictatorships and mass ethnic cleansing.

Fenriis wrote:I am simple against globalism and I believe it needs to be resisted like Italy just did and I don't see them doing anything bad apart from protecting their border

I'm a traditionalist and well to the right of you on most social and cultural matters in all likelihood. You have no idea what you stand for. Most racial nationalists don't.

Firstly where should I start? Firstly I do have a sense of pride yes, and I am not against my own existence all I said is too much mixing is bad. I wouldn't want to wipe out both of my countries for selfish reasons. Its like what it says on the Acropolis not too much of anything its the same with this. Also the Japanese aren't seen as undesirable by the vast majority of them. Scottie from smoloko (I am not promoting his site here mods) wrote an article praising Japan and Dr David Duke talked about his admiration for Japan and even visited the country I think it was and even Hitler didn't call them undesirables although not all of them are pro Hitler a large chunk don't and you often see Nordicists being mocked in many circles. Also aren't you against marrying of Jews with gentiles and didn't you say you opposed interracial marriage with non Jews. I said it should be done in moderation you were opposed to it
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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:20 am

Fahran wrote:
Fenriis wrote:I never called myself a white nationalist

You complain about black and brown people immigrating and do not cite cultural differences as the basis for your complaints. You talk about white people being entitled to white countries. You rant about ZOG's. You're pretty blatantly a white supremacist.

Fenriis wrote:but a anti globalist

You may be anti-globalist, but you're not a real nationalist for reasons I've specified previously. You have no loyalty to England or Japan as nations. You do not even comprehend their culture as it truly is. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so concerned about black people integrating into mainstream English society.

Fenriis wrote:and anti Zionists

You do not know what Zionism is either. Hint: it's not a globalist movement and doesn't control financial institutions.

Fenriis wrote:and like I said they aren't one movement with a official stand

I'm well aware. You're only the latest white nationalist I've met.

Like I said I am anti globalist and I often talk about other civilisations like Tibetans and Palestinians being under attack. Globalism means the destruction of every people turning them all into nihilistic consumerists without any identity or culture in favour of wanton consumerism. I said flooding Europe with huge amounts of people from the 3rd world is a bad idea which it is and they were opposed to colonialism for the same kind of reasons. Civic nationalism doesn't work when the migrant population is too large. You call me a "white nationalist" but I am for all good civilisations being preserved. I also seen people from around the world talk about occupation governments for example the prime minister of Malaysia talking about Zionists controlling most of the world before the plane disappeared and I seen middle eastern people talk about it and a Japanese man wrote about the Mossad sabotage of the Fukushima plant. Also this is going off topic the point is why should Italy for example became like Africa
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Postby Puldania » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:27 am

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Fahran wrote:You complain about black and brown people immigrating and do not cite cultural differences as the basis for your complaints. You talk about white people being entitled to white countries. You rant about ZOG's. You're pretty blatantly a white supremacist.


You may be anti-globalist, but you're not a real nationalist for reasons I've specified previously. You have no loyalty to England or Japan as nations. You do not even comprehend their culture as it truly is. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so concerned about black people integrating into mainstream English society.


You do not know what Zionism is either. Hint: it's not a globalist movement and doesn't control financial institutions.


I'm well aware. You're only the latest white nationalist I've met.

Like I said I am anti globalist and I often talk about other civilisations like Tibetans and Palestinians being under attack. Globalism means the destruction of every people turning them all into nihilistic consumerists without any identity or culture in favour of wanton consumerism. I said flooding Europe with huge amounts of people from the 3rd world is a bad idea which it is and they were opposed to colonialism for the same kind of reasons. Civic nationalism doesn't work when the migrant population is too large. You call me a "white nationalist" but I am for all good civilisations being preserved. I also seen people from around the world talk about occupation governments for example the prime minister of Malaysia talking about Zionists controlling most of the world before the plane disappeared and I seen middle eastern people talk about it and a Japanese man wrote about the Mossad sabotage of the Fukushima plant. Also this is going off topic the point is why should Italy for example became like Africa

You may not call yourself a white nationalist, but the people you look up to, the media you consume, and the beliefs you express are all that of white supremacists. Either you're a political idiot or you're being disingenuous. Which is it, Heinrich?
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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:30 am

Puldania wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Like I said I am anti globalist and I often talk about other civilisations like Tibetans and Palestinians being under attack. Globalism means the destruction of every people turning them all into nihilistic consumerists without any identity or culture in favour of wanton consumerism. I said flooding Europe with huge amounts of people from the 3rd world is a bad idea which it is and they were opposed to colonialism for the same kind of reasons. Civic nationalism doesn't work when the migrant population is too large. You call me a "white nationalist" but I am for all good civilisations being preserved. I also seen people from around the world talk about occupation governments for example the prime minister of Malaysia talking about Zionists controlling most of the world before the plane disappeared and I seen middle eastern people talk about it and a Japanese man wrote about the Mossad sabotage of the Fukushima plant. Also this is going off topic the point is why should Italy for example became like Africa

You may not call yourself a white nationalist, but the people you look up to, the media you consume, and the beliefs you express are all that of white supremacists. Either you're a political idiot or you're being disingenuous. Which is it, Heinrich?

You love saying "white supremacist" but did I claim that white people are genetically superior. I also talked about Tibet and Palestine and other victims of globalism

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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:47 am

Fenriis wrote:Firstly where should I start? Firstly I do have a sense of pride yes,

Then act like it. If someone told me that I was "alright for a Jew", my response would be a bit more dignified than yours has been.

Fenriis wrote:and I am not against my own existence all I said is too much mixing is bad.

Then why are you against the existence of people like you?

Fenriis wrote:I wouldn't want to wipe out both of my countries for selfish reasons.

England could change its racial makeup and remain largely the same in terms of its culture and ethnicity. A black man with a posh accent who is actively attends Anglican services and who is native to England is far more English than a German immigrant to England. Race =/= Ethnicity

Fenriis wrote:Its like what it says on the Acropolis not too much of anything its the same with this.

Miscegenation isn't based on anything concrete. There's literally no reason to oppose.

Fenriis wrote:Also the Japanese aren't seen as undesirable by the vast majority of them. Scottie from smoloko (I am not promoting his site here mods) wrote an article praising Japan and Dr David Duke talked about his admiration for Japan and even visited it I think it was

They're fine with Asians... so long as they're way, way over there. Y'all aren't white and y'all are over-represented in many institutions. How long do you think it'll be until that begins to contradict the notion of white countries for white people? You don't fit into any racial nationalist paradigm. You're undesirable to all of them when they behave consistently and don't make exceptions to their beliefs.

Fenriis wrote:and even Hitler didn't call them undesirables although not all of them are pro Hitler a large chunk don't

Most white nationalists are pro-Hitler. Many of them just have the sense not to say it out loud. Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. Well, not really.

Fenriis wrote:and you often see Nordicists being mocked in many circles.

That's not what I saw on Stormfront. The Nordicists were the majority.

Fenriis wrote:Also aren't you against marrying of Jews with gentiles and didn't you say you opposed interracial marriage with non Jews

Jewishness is religious and ethnic, not racial. I have no problem with an Ethiopian Jew marrying a Russian Jew.
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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:57 am

Fahran wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Firstly where should I start? Firstly I do have a sense of pride yes,

Then act like it. If someone told me that I was "alright for a Jew", my response would be a bit more dignified than yours has been.

Fenriis wrote:and I am not against my own existence all I said is too much mixing is bad.

Then why are you against the existence of people like you?

Fenriis wrote:I wouldn't want to wipe out both of my countries for selfish reasons.

England could change its racial makeup and remain largely the same in terms of its culture and ethnicity. A black man with a posh accent who is actively attends Anglican services and who is native to England is far more English than a German immigrant to England. Race =/= Ethnicity

Fenriis wrote:Its like what it says on the Acropolis not too much of anything its the same with this.

Miscegenation isn't based on anything concrete. There's literally no reason to oppose.

Fenriis wrote:Also the Japanese aren't seen as undesirable by the vast majority of them. Scottie from smoloko (I am not promoting his site here mods) wrote an article praising Japan and Dr David Duke talked about his admiration for Japan and even visited it I think it was

They're fine with Asians... so long as they're way, way over there. Y'all aren't white and y'all are over-represented in many institutions. How long do you think it'll be until that begins to contradict the notion of white countries for white people? You don't fit into any racial nationalist paradigm. You're undesirable to all of them when they behave consistently and don't make exceptions to their beliefs.

Fenriis wrote:and even Hitler didn't call them undesirables although not all of them are pro Hitler a large chunk don't

Most white nationalists are pro-Hitler. Many of them just have the sense not to say it out loud. Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. Well, not really.

Fenriis wrote:and you often see Nordicists being mocked in many circles.

That's not what I saw on Stormfront. The Nordicists were the majority.

Fenriis wrote:Also aren't you against marrying of Jews with gentiles and didn't you say you opposed interracial marriage with non Jews

Jewishness is religious and ethnic, not racial. I have no problem with an Ethiopian Jew marrying a Russian Jew.

I saw lots of memes taking the mick out of Nordicists on pol(I am not promoting the site mods) although pol mocks everyone including all types of white people. As for your comment about OK for a Jew the response I got wasnt like that. They were often from the ones I know things like the Japanese are a red pilled people for example and another one said that is very good mix. Stromfront is just one of many types and like I said they come in so many shapes and forms. I even saw a pol thread saying that they should all go to Japan and mass breed with them to solve both the west and Japans birth rate problem and create basically a whole race of hapas combining "Japanese love of order, precision, harmony, perfectionism with white values of honesty, individualism, leadership, nonlinear comprehension and critical thought" and to create some kind of occupation free society that was a strange idea there. So like I said they come in many shapes. Anyway we are going off topic
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Postby Forund » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:57 am

Why is everyone so angry at this? They are not legal immigrants so they should be turned away back to where they came from, then apply for citizenship like everyone else.

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Postby The South Falls » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:58 am

Forund wrote:Why is everyone so angry at this? They are not legal immigrants so they should be turned away back to where they came from, then apply for citizenship like everyone else.

Well, at least give them a meal, and some water, then send them back. There's a diff between "Enforce the law." and "become heartless monsters."
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 am

Forund wrote:Why is everyone so angry at this? They are not legal immigrants so they should be turned away back to where they came from, then apply for citizenship like everyone else.


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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:00 pm

Forund wrote:Why is everyone so angry at this? They are not legal immigrants so they should be turned away back to where they came from, then apply for citizenship like everyone else.

Entering a country and requesting asylum is legal. Further, they are already in Spain, so it's a bit too late to turn them away.

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Postby Puldania » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:00 pm

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Puldania wrote:You may not call yourself a white nationalist, but the people you look up to, the media you consume, and the beliefs you express are all that of white supremacists. Either you're a political idiot or you're being disingenuous. Which is it, Heinrich?

You love saying "white supremacist" but did I claim that white people are genetically superior. I also talked about Tibet and Palestine and other victims of globalism

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Forund wrote:Why is everyone so angry at this? They are not legal immigrants so they should be turned away back to where they came from, then apply for citizenship like everyone else.

Well, at least give them a meal, and some water, then send them back. There's a diff between "Enforce the law." and "become heartless monsters."


Why should we give them a meal? Thats resources that could go to Italian citizens or tourist.

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Fahran wrote:Then act like it. If someone told me that I was "alright for a Jew", my response would be a bit more dignified than yours has been.


Then why are you against the existence of people like you?


England could change its racial makeup and remain largely the same in terms of its culture and ethnicity. A black man with a posh accent who is actively attends Anglican services and who is native to England is far more English than a German immigrant to England. Race =/= Ethnicity


Miscegenation isn't based on anything concrete. There's literally no reason to oppose.


They're fine with Asians... so long as they're way, way over there. Y'all aren't white and y'all are over-represented in many institutions. How long do you think it'll be until that begins to contradict the notion of white countries for white people? You don't fit into any racial nationalist paradigm. You're undesirable to all of them when they behave consistently and don't make exceptions to their beliefs.


Most white nationalists are pro-Hitler. Many of them just have the sense not to say it out loud. Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses. Well, not really.


That's not what I saw on Stormfront. The Nordicists were the majority.


Jewishness is religious and ethnic, not racial. I have no problem with an Ethiopian Jew marrying a Russian Jew.

I saw lots of memes taking the mick out of Nordicists on pol although pol mocks everyone including all types of white people. As for your comment about OK for a Jew the response I got wasnt like that. They were often from the ones I know things like the Japanese are a red pilled people for example and another one said that is very good mix. Stromfront is just one of many types and like I said they come in so many shapes and forms. I even saw a pol thread saying that they should all go to Japan and mass breed with them to solve both the west and Japans birth rate problem and create basically a whole race of hapas combining "Japanese love of order, precision, harmony, perfectionism with white values of honesty, individualism, leadership, nonlinear comprehension and critical thought" and to create some kind of occupation free society that was a strange idea there. So like I said they come in many shapes. Anyway we are going off topic

Yes, back to how Italy turned away asylum seekers.
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Postby Estanglia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:16 pm

Fenriis wrote:I myself am not part of the lets start exterminating everyone camp(and neither are most people they aren't Zionists after all) I am more of lets oppose international finance and global Zionism camp.


"Global Zionism". You do realise that the only places where the Jews have absolute control is Israel, right? A global Zionist plot would have to involve taking control of western democracies and judging by the significant lack of Jews who have political power there, let alone across the world. If I recall correctly, the only non-democratic European states are Belarus and Russia (if you count it as European), and they don't exactly have a great track record when it comes to Jews.

Even the real ones in Germany and Italy didn't do anything bad against Japanese blooded people

Forgot the part where Hitler believed that Aryans were the 'master race'? In order to be a master race, they would have to be above all non-Aryans, that includes you. In the search for an Aryan nation state, non-Jewish non-Aryan people would have been persecuted, if it wasn't for the Allies.

Fenriis wrote:I also seen people from around the world talk about occupation governments for example the prime minister of Malaysia talking about Zionists controlling most of the world before the plane disappeared

Fun Fact: Zionists do not control the world or even most of it. The most they control is that small strip of land south of Lebanon called Israel.
and I seen middle eastern people talk about it.

Of course they would. I mean, its not like most of the middle eastern nation states surrounding Israel have tried to destroy it. Oh wait, they have.
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Postby Estanglia » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:20 pm

Puldania wrote:Yes, back to how Italy turned away asylum seekers.

They should only be let into Italy if they are truly asylum seekers fleeing war and Italy is the first safe country they have entered. If they have come from, say, Turkey or some other country not tearing itself apart, they should be sent back.
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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:29 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Fenriis wrote:I myself am not part of the lets start exterminating everyone camp(and neither are most people they aren't Zionists after all) I am more of lets oppose international finance and global Zionism camp.


"Global Zionism". You do realise that the only places where the Jews have absolute control is Israel, right? A global Zionist plot would have to involve taking control of western democracies and judging by the significant lack of Jews who have political power there, let alone across the world. If I recall correctly, the only non-democratic European states are Belarus and Russia (if you count it as European), and they don't exactly have a great track record when it comes to Jews.

Even the real ones in Germany and Italy didn't do anything bad against Japanese blooded people

Forgot the part where Hitler believed that Aryans were the 'master race'? In order to be a master race, they would have to be above all non-Aryans, that includes you. In the search for an Aryan nation state, non-Jewish non-Aryan people would have been persecuted, if it wasn't for the Allies.

Fenriis wrote:I also seen people from around the world talk about occupation governments for example the prime minister of Malaysia talking about Zionists controlling most of the world before the plane disappeared

Fun Fact: Zionists do not control the world or even most of it. The most they control is that small strip of land south of Lebanon called Israel.
and I seen middle eastern people talk about it.

Of course they would. I mean, its not like most of the middle eastern nation states surrounding Israel have tried to destroy it. Oh wait, they have.

Read my stuff I said the whole ayran thing is weird and cringey although according to his quote he didn't believe the Japanese were inferior. Still Nordicism is a bit dumb kind of like the afrocentrists. Anyway this isn't to do with Italy
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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:02 pm

Fenriis wrote:I saw lots of memes taking the mick out of Nordicists on pol although pol mocks everyone including all types of white people.

Different online communities, same racist nonsense.

Fenriis wrote:As for your comment about OK for a Jew the response I got wasnt like that. They were often from the ones I know things like the Japanese are a red pilled people for example and another one said that is very good mix.

Interesting. That does not negate the fact that your existence in any government or economic institution would subvert the "white countries for white people" talking point.

Fenriis wrote:Stromfront is just one of many types and like I said they come in so many shapes and forms.

Stormfront is one of the most popular white nationalist websites on the internet. That's why I brought it up.

Fenriis wrote:I even saw a pol thread saying that they should all go to Japan and mass breed with them to solve both the west and Japans birth rate problem and create basically a whole race of hapas

Did you ask them how they'd feel if the Japanese came and created a massive mixed race population in Europe? If you're in favor of things like this, you should stop talking about "white countries being for white people" and "Asian countries being for Asian people" and just state plainly that you dislike Jews and black people.

Fenriis wrote:combining "Japanese love of order, precision, harmony, perfectionism with white values of honesty, individualism, leadership, nonlinear comprehension and critical thought"

Those are cultural traits, not racial ones, and their accuracy is questionable.

Fenriis wrote:and to create some kind of occupation free society that was a strange idea there. So like I said they come in many shapes. Anyway we are going off topic

Your society is not presently occupied by Zionists.
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Postby Fenriis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:10 pm

Fahran wrote:
Fenriis wrote:I saw lots of memes taking the mick out of Nordicists on pol although pol mocks everyone including all types of white people.

Different online communities, same racist nonsense.

Fenriis wrote:As for your comment about OK for a Jew the response I got wasnt like that. They were often from the ones I know things like the Japanese are a red pilled people for example and another one said that is very good mix.

Interesting. That does not negate the fact that your existence in any government or economic institution would subvert the "white countries for white people" talking point.

Fenriis wrote:Stromfront is just one of many types and like I said they come in so many shapes and forms.

Stormfront is one of the most popular white nationalist websites on the internet. That's why I brought it up.

Fenriis wrote:I even saw a pol thread saying that they should all go to Japan and mass breed with them to solve both the west and Japans birth rate problem and create basically a whole race of hapas

Did you ask them how they'd feel if the Japanese came and created a massive mixed race population in Europe? If you're in favor of things like this, you should stop talking about "white countries being for white people" and "Asian countries being for Asian people" and just state plainly that you dislike Jews and black people.

Fenriis wrote:combining "Japanese love of order, precision, harmony, perfectionism with white values of honesty, individualism, leadership, nonlinear comprehension and critical thought"

Those are cultural traits, not racial ones, and their accuracy is questionable.

Fenriis wrote:and to create some kind of occupation free society that was a strange idea there. So like I said they come in many shapes. Anyway we are going off topic

Your society is not presently occupied by Zionists.

I didn't take part in the thread(I personally think that mixing is to be done in fine moderation).I was pointing out the diversity of ideas in the community. Also back to Italy now please
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Postby Puldania » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:16 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Puldania wrote:Yes, back to how Italy turned away asylum seekers.

They should only be let into Italy if they are truly asylum seekers fleeing war and Italy is the first safe country they have entered. If they have come from, say, Turkey or some other country not tearing itself apart, they should be sent back.

> Turkey
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:16 pm

Yeah, back to Italy.
They shoulda let them in, but AlHamdulillah the refugees are safer now. As I said before:
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Postby Forund » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:17 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Forund wrote:Why is everyone so angry at this? They are not legal immigrants so they should be turned away back to where they came from, then apply for citizenship like everyone else.

Entering a country and requesting asylum is legal. Further, they are already in Spain, so it's a bit too late to turn them away.


This is getting ridiculous it should not be so easy for someone to become an italian citizen so easily. Most of these refugees will most likely never ever go back to whatever countries they came from meaning they are permanent illegal citizens the government wont deport for reasons I dont understand. Yes I know they are from wartorn areas, poor, but this is not good for the italian people.

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Postby Fahran » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:17 pm

Fenriis wrote:I didn't take part in the thread(I personally think that mixing is to be done in fine moderation).

So you're fine with the present state of countries like the US and Sweden?

Fenriis wrote:I was pointing out the diversity of ideas in the community. Also back to Italy now please

I'm pressing you on these points because the underlying philosophy behind your opposition to immigration is absurd and silly. It amounts to "too many darkies is bad." You do not reference culture or anything beyond the race of immigrants, which you erroneously believe is tied to cultural traits and intellect. My opinion wouldn't change regardless of whether the immigrants were Ethiopian, Russian, or Salvadoran. Yours probably would.
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