Italy turns away ship of 600 illegal migrants

[Senegalboy]

Both and the west is partially responsible for the destabilization of the middle east.

But the muslims VASTLY more so.
So let us focus on them first.

If the west didn't invade Iraq then everything would be fine.
Saddam Hussein although cruel would have exterminated ISIS and it wouldn't gain ground in Iraq and Syria.

[Fahran]

If the west didn't invade Iraq then everything would be fine.
Saddam Hussein although cruel would have exterminated ISIS and it wouldn't gain ground in Iraq and Syria.

Most of the refugees are Sunnis fleeing Bashar al-Assad.

[Fenriis]

If the west didn't invade Iraq then everything would be fine.
Saddam Hussein although cruel would have exterminated ISIS and it wouldn't gain ground in Iraq and Syria.

Most of the refugees are Sunnis fleeing Bashar al-Assad.

Assad is a nationalist hero defending his people. The best among them fight for their family and country or work hard contributing in their country from doctors to road workers. The ones that come here mostly are young men who abandoned their women and children and country and run off to the west so they can live off their welfare system. Not to mention most migration doesn't come from Syria but Africa.

[Fenriis]

What if we build a safe area on the border where asylum seekers and refugees can stay while they wait for the system to let them in, it would raise taxes but keep the morality of the nation intact without endangering the citizenry.

So basically put everyone in concentration camps.

To protect the natives. This would also mean only the real ones will come here and they wouldn't go though multiple countries if they know that Europe isn't bending over anymore and the easy times and free stuff is over. Less pull factors are needed

[Fahran]

Assad is a nationalist hero defending his people.

He would not need to defend his people from his people had he not governed them so poorly. Fear has its practical uses, but, without prudent policy, it's just a bludgeon in the hands of a thug. Assad neglected his duties and ignored the growing destitution and discontent in the countryside until it festered into a rebellion. He also allowed the rebellion to transform into an Islamist movement. I hold him principally responsible for the present civil war.

The best among them fight for their family and country or work hard contributing in their country from doctors to road workers.

Fighting for your family is not so palatable when you're guaranteed to lose that fight and the cost of such a loss would be all their lives. Many good people throughout history have become refugees. How many well-educated professionals or artists or thinkers fled Germany and Russia when they were in the grips of totalitarianism? How many fled Iraq when it became possible? Assad has targeted well-to-do families with famous names. Doubtless, some of them will seek asylum.

The ones that come here mostly are young men who abandoned their women and children and country and run off to the west so they can live off their welfare system.

Source on this? My impression was that women and children comprised a slight majority of the refugees from Syria.

Not to mention most migration doesn't come from Syria but Africa.

In this case, yes, and South Asia.

[The Empire of Cyril]

Why should they?

Cuz many of those human beings almost died

Theres nothing proud about being a slut. its a shame really

[Fenriis]

Assad is a nationalist hero defending his people.

He would not need to defend his people from his people had he not governed them so poorly. Fear has its practical uses, but, without prudent policy, it's just a bludgeon in the hands of a thug. Assad neglected his duties and ignored the growing destitution and discontent in the countryside until it festered into a rebellion. He also allowed the rebellion to transform into an Islamist movement. I hold him principally responsible for the present civil war.

The best among them fight for their family and country or work hard contributing in their country from doctors to road workers.

Fighting for your family is not so palatable when you're guaranteed to lose that fight and the cost of such a loss would be all their lives. Many good people throughout history have become refugees. How many well-educated professionals or artists or thinkers fled Germany and Russia when they were in the grips of totalitarianism? How many fled Iraq when it became possible? Assad has targeted well-to-do families with famous names. Doubtless, some of them will seek asylum.

The ones that come here mostly are young men who abandoned their women and children and country and run off to the west so they can live off their welfare system.

Source on this? My impression was that women and children comprised a slight majority of the refugees from Syria.

Not to mention most migration doesn't come from Syria but Africa.

In this case, yes, and South Asia.

Assad has always had policies aimed at wealth distribution and practised state owned national socialist style oil companies and protectionism and these "rebellions" are funded and created by America, Israel, UK, France, UAE, Saudi and Qatar who are the real source of terrorism(they is a reason for the fact that these "protestors" have neatly written signs in English, ISIS and "free Syria army" recived medical treatment and weapon shipments from the US and Israel and the US keeps bombing them when they are about to wipe out the remaining terrorists and so on) in the region as Assad has state owned banks, refused US pipelines though his country, works with Iran and Russia and Lebanese freedom fighters, had nationalised oil and protectionism and resisted Israel and America's aggression which is a fact. Every country faced struggle but the best and noblest stayed to help their country. Many of my Japanese family were in Nagasaki (although they weren't there when the bomb went off inside the blast so had no burns) and they didn't run off and my great great grandfather was a doctor and he knew he will get radiation poisoning but still stayed to look after his patients as he beloved it was his duty as a doctor and my family in the UK went though the blitz because of Churchill's decision to start the war

[Fahran]

Assad has always had policies aimed at wealth distribution and practised state owned national socialist style oil companies and protectionism

And those policies have, as a general rule, benefited a limited number of regions. Grinding poverty and lack of opportunities are still pervasive problems across much of Syria. Additionally, Assad's heavy-handedness with liberal-minded reformers and journalists probably succeeded in alienating elites in cities like Damascus and Aleppo. So criticizing his rule makes some semblance of sense.

and these "rebellions" are funded and created by America, Israel, UK, France, UAE, Saudi and Qatar who are the real source of terrorism

Do you happen to have a source demonstrating that the Free Syrian Army was founded by foreign interlopers? Because I'm certain that the experts who have been studying this conflict would love a genuine rebuttal of their present theories. TIL that the FSA, al-Nusra, and the SDF are all the same thing and a vile Zionist plot to undermine Assad - for reasons.

(they is a reason for the fact that these "protestors" have neatly written signs in English,

Because well-educated people around the world can often understand English?

ISIS and "free Syria army" recived medical treatment and weapon shipments from the US and Israel

As far as I know, Israel has stayed out of the conflict aside from limited bombings whenever it threatens to spill over their border.

and the US keeps bombing them when they are about to wipe out the remaining terrorists and so on)

They aren't about to wipe out the terrorists and Russia has been doing far more bombings than the US.

in the region as Assad has state owned banks,

Syria has multiple private banks as well, making it like pretty much every other country on Earth. You do not understand banking and have minimal knowledge of the banking institutions present in particular countries. You might want to educate yourself on the subject before continuing to shill about the Rothschild conspiracy to oppress the goyim.

Source.

refused US pipelines though his country,

That has nothing to do with the Syrian Civil War either. You're ignorant on energy as well. Go learn, then come back to me.

Source.

works with Iran and Russia and Lebanese freedom fighters,

Anti-West nonsense. Russia does not care about freedom in the slightest. They care about their own national interests, as they always have. Iran wants to spread its Shiite revolution across the Middle East and is willing to interfere in the political turmoils of sovereign countries to achieve this. And Hezbollah is another Islamist group.

had nationalised oil and protectionism

Plenty of countries have nationalized or semi-nationalized petroleum industries. They aren't presently embroiled in a long-standing civil war.

and resisted Israel and America's aggression which is a fact.

When has Israel ever started a war with Syria?

Every country faced struggle but the best and noblest stayed to help their country.

That's mighty idealistic. There's nothing noble about throwing your life away when you don't have to. It's far better to retreat and live to fight another day.

Many of my Japanese family were in Nagasaki (although they weren't there when the bomb went off inside the blast so had no burns) and they didn't run off and my great great grandfather was a doctor and he knew he will get radiation poisoning but still stayed to look after his patients as he beloved it was his duty as a doctor and my family in the UK went though the blitz because of Churchill's decision to start the war

Churchill's decision to start the war? You mean after Germany invaded Poland even after explicit threats from both the United Kingdom and France that they were finally drawing a line on Nazi aggression?

[Kubumba Tribe]

So basically put everyone in concentration camps.

To protect the natives.

Lol

[Vassenor]

Assad has always had policies aimed at wealth distribution and practised state owned national socialist style oil companies and protectionism

And those policies have, as a general rule, benefited a limited number of regions. Grinding poverty and lack of opportunities are still pervasive problems across much of Syria. Additionally, Assad's heavy-handedness with liberal-minded reformers and journalists probably succeeded in alienating elites in cities like Damascus and Aleppo. So criticizing his rule makes some semblance of sense.

and these "rebellions" are funded and created by America, Israel, UK, France, UAE, Saudi and Qatar who are the real source of terrorism

Do you happen to have a source demonstrating that the Free Syrian Army was founded by foreign interlopers? Because I'm certain that the experts who have been studying this conflict would love a genuine rebuttal of their present theories. TIL that the FSA, al-Nusra, and the SDF are all the same thing and a vile Zionist plot to undermine Assad - for reasons.

(they is a reason for the fact that these "protestors" have neatly written signs in English,

Because well-educated people around the world can often understand English?

ISIS and "free Syria army" recived medical treatment and weapon shipments from the US and Israel

As far as I know, Israel has stayed out of the conflict aside from limited bombings whenever it threatens to spill over their border.

and the US keeps bombing them when they are about to wipe out the remaining terrorists and so on)

They aren't about to wipe out the terrorists and Russia has been doing far more bombings than the US.

in the region as Assad has state owned banks,

Syria has multiple private banks as well, making it like pretty much every other country on Earth. You do not understand banking and have minimal knowledge of the banking institutions present in particular countries. You might want to educate yourself on the subject before continuing to shill about the Rothschild conspiracy to oppress the goyim.

Source.

refused US pipelines though his country,

That has nothing to do with the Syrian Civil War either. You're ignorant on energy as well. Go learn, then come back to me.

Source.

works with Iran and Russia and Lebanese freedom fighters,

Anti-West nonsense. Russia does not care about freedom in the slightest. They care about their own national interests, as they always have. Iran wants to spread its Shiite revolution across the Middle East and is willing to interfere in the political turmoils of sovereign countries to achieve this. And Hezbollah is another Islamist group.

had nationalised oil and protectionism

Plenty of countries have nationalized or semi-nationalized petroleum industries. They aren't presently embroiled in a long-standing civil war.

and resisted Israel and America's aggression which is a fact.

When has Israel ever started a war with Syria?

Every country faced struggle but the best and noblest stayed to help their country.

That's mighty idealistic. There's nothing noble about throwing your life away when you don't have to. It's far better to retreat and live to fight another day.

Many of my Japanese family were in Nagasaki (although they weren't there when the bomb went off inside the blast so had no burns) and they didn't run off and my great great grandfather was a doctor and he knew he will get radiation poisoning but still stayed to look after his patients as he beloved it was his duty as a doctor and my family in the UK went though the blitz because of Churchill's decision to start the war

Churchill's decision to start the war? You mean after Germany invaded Poland even after explicit threats from both the United Kingdom and France that they were finally drawing a line on Nazi aggression?

Also people forget that Churchill wasn't even PM at the start of the war.

[Armenian Cilica]

To me, personally. Assad is the least of all the evils.


The Free Syrian Army is too in bed with Islamic extremists.
The Syrian Democratic Forces’ vision will only lead to Arab resentment of the Kurds and a 2nd Syrian Civil War
ISIS is ISIS



Now, Assad is a horrible person and a horrible leader, but looking back on Libya, there isn’t much we can do to get around him. So, we should just accept that he’s going to win and support him to some degree.

[Fahran]

Also people forget that Churchill wasn't even PM at the start of the war.

Yep, Chamberlain was still PM.

[Fenriis]

And those policies have, as a general rule, benefited a limited number of regions. Grinding poverty and lack of opportunities are still pervasive problems across much of Syria. Additionally, Assad's heavy-handedness with liberal-minded reformers and journalists probably succeeded in alienating elites in cities like Damascus and Aleppo. So criticizing his rule makes some semblance of sense.


Do you happen to have a source demonstrating that the Free Syrian Army was founded by foreign interlopers? Because I'm certain that the experts who have been studying this conflict would love a genuine rebuttal of their present theories. TIL that the FSA, al-Nusra, and the SDF are all the same thing and a vile Zionist plot to undermine Assad - for reasons.


Because well-educated people around the world can often understand English?


As far as I know, Israel has stayed out of the conflict aside from limited bombings whenever it threatens to spill over their border.


They aren't about to wipe out the terrorists and Russia has been doing far more bombings than the US.


Syria has multiple private banks as well, making it like pretty much every other country on Earth. You do not understand banking and have minimal knowledge of the banking institutions present in particular countries. You might want to educate yourself on the subject before continuing to shill about the Rothschild conspiracy to oppress the goyim.

Source.


That has nothing to do with the Syrian Civil War either. You're ignorant on energy as well. Go learn, then come back to me.

Source.


Anti-West nonsense. Russia does not care about freedom in the slightest. They care about their own national interests, as they always have. Iran wants to spread its Shiite revolution across the Middle East and is willing to interfere in the political turmoils of sovereign countries to achieve this. And Hezbollah is another Islamist group.


Plenty of countries have nationalized or semi-nationalized petroleum industries. They aren't presently embroiled in a long-standing civil war.


When has Israel ever started a war with Syria?


That's mighty idealistic. There's nothing noble about throwing your life away when you don't have to. It's far better to retreat and live to fight another day.


Churchill's decision to start the war? You mean after Germany invaded Poland even after explicit threats from both the United Kingdom and France that they were finally drawing a line on Nazi aggression?

Also people forget that Churchill wasn't even PM at the start of the war.

Chamberlin did declare the war but it was prepared by international finance. Anyway we going off topic

[Fahran]

Chamberlin did declare the war but it was prepared by international finance. Anyway we going off topic

No, I'm quite certain it was prepared by the British military command. And, yes, we are off topic.

[Fenriis]

Assad has always had policies aimed at wealth distribution and practised state owned national socialist style oil companies and protectionism

And those policies have, as a general rule, benefited a limited number of regions. Grinding poverty and lack of opportunities are still pervasive problems across much of Syria. Additionally, Assad's heavy-handedness with liberal-minded reformers and journalists probably succeeded in alienating elites in cities like Damascus and Aleppo. So criticizing his rule makes some semblance of sense.

and these "rebellions" are funded and created by America, Israel, UK, France, UAE, Saudi and Qatar who are the real source of terrorism

Do you happen to have a source demonstrating that the Free Syrian Army was founded by foreign interlopers? Because I'm certain that the experts who have been studying this conflict would love a genuine rebuttal of their present theories. TIL that the FSA, al-Nusra, and the SDF are all the same thing and a vile Zionist plot to undermine Assad - for reasons.

(they is a reason for the fact that these "protestors" have neatly written signs in English,

Because well-educated people around the world can often understand English?

ISIS and "free Syria army" recived medical treatment and weapon shipments from the US and Israel

As far as I know, Israel has stayed out of the conflict aside from limited bombings whenever it threatens to spill over their border.

and the US keeps bombing them when they are about to wipe out the remaining terrorists and so on)

They aren't about to wipe out the terrorists and Russia has been doing far more bombings than the US.

in the region as Assad has state owned banks,

Syria has multiple private banks as well, making it like pretty much every other country on Earth. You do not understand banking and have minimal knowledge of the banking institutions present in particular countries. You might want to educate yourself on the subject before continuing to shill about the Rothschild conspiracy to oppress the goyim.

Source.

refused US pipelines though his country,

That has nothing to do with the Syrian Civil War either. You're ignorant on energy as well. Go learn, then come back to me.

Source.

works with Iran and Russia and Lebanese freedom fighters,

Anti-West nonsense. Russia does not care about freedom in the slightest. They care about their own national interests, as they always have. Iran wants to spread its Shiite revolution across the Middle East and is willing to interfere in the political turmoils of sovereign countries to achieve this. And Hezbollah is another Islamist group.

had nationalised oil and protectionism

Plenty of countries have nationalized or semi-nationalized petroleum industries. They aren't presently embroiled in a long-standing civil war.

and resisted Israel and America's aggression which is a fact.

When has Israel ever started a war with Syria?

Every country faced struggle but the best and noblest stayed to help their country.

That's mighty idealistic. There's nothing noble about throwing your life away when you don't have to. It's far better to retreat and live to fight another day.

Many of my Japanese family were in Nagasaki (although they weren't there when the bomb went off inside the blast so had no burns) and they didn't run off and my great great grandfather was a doctor and he knew he will get radiation poisoning but still stayed to look after his patients as he beloved it was his duty as a doctor and my family in the UK went though the blitz because of Churchill's decision to start the war

Churchill's decision to start the war? You mean after Germany invaded Poland even after explicit threats from both the United Kingdom and France that they were finally drawing a line on Nazi aggression?

Watch these videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alATb7oLRbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNhdy7VuSZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDRuOhLLta0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmUOfGpXVY8
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Stephen Goodson (not a site by the way mods) also explains it very well. Anyway back to Italy now. As for the migrants the boat operators must be arrested for treason

[Kubumba Tribe]

Anyway back to Italy now. As for the migrants the boat operators must be arrested for treason

Why, did they save lives?

[Fahran]

Watch these videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alATb7oLRbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNhdy7VuSZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDRuOhLLta0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmUOfGpXVY8

I'll watch them when I get a chance. If they wind up being conspiracy theory nonsense, I won't be watching video sources that you share in the future. It takes up too much time.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428983921758437378/458309792423870465/1529338929409.png

I'm not inclined to believe that article. Israel's participation and overall neutrality in the conflict have been well publicized. Additionally, humanitarian efforts that help civilians and members of the Southern Front - who aren't Daesh by the way - do not qualify as wartime activities.

Source.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428983921758437378/458309641395372032/1529336887592.png

This story was proven to be a lie and has since been deleted by the tabloid in question. They were found to have committed libel in a British court as well.

Source.

Stephen Goodson (not a site by the way mods) also explains it very well.

You mean the guy who thinks the Holocaust was a lie and that Japan peacefully annexed Korea and Indochina? Forgive me if I don't consider him a credible source on anything except the depths of human stupidity and cognitive dissonance.

Anyway back to Italy now. As for the migrants the boat operators must be arrested for treason

Treason? On what grounds?

[Fenriis]

Watch these videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alATb7oLRbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNhdy7VuSZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDRuOhLLta0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmUOfGpXVY8

I'll watch them when I get a chance. If they wind up being conspiracy theory nonsense, I won't be watching video sources that you share in the future. It takes up too much time.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428983921758437378/458309792423870465/1529338929409.png

I'm not inclined to believe that article. Israel's participation and overall neutrality in the conflict have been well publicized. Additionally, humanitarian efforts that help civilians and members of the Southern Front - who aren't Daesh by the way - do not qualify as wartime activities.

Source.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428983921758437378/458309641395372032/1529336887592.png

This story was proven to be a lie and has since been deleted by the tabloid in question. They were found to have committed libel in a British court as well.

Source.

Stephen Goodson (not a site by the way mods) also explains it very well.

You mean the guy who thinks the Holocaust was a lie and that Japan peacefully annexed Korea and Indochina? Forgive me if I don't consider him a credible source on anything except the depths of human stupidity and cognitive dissonance.

Anyway back to Italy now. As for the migrants the boat operators must be arrested for treason

Treason? On what grounds?

The ship crew committed treason by working with people smugglers and by trafficking people into Europe to start with. Stephen is a monetary reformist who left the South African bank for being a whistle blower and for exposing international finance. He also backs up his points. As for the picture I got it off my mate but the videos explain way more and use facts and dates and quotes not to mention that the fake "gas" attacks were used against Iraq and multiple other nations to justify invasion and bombings by the US. As for Israel's neutrality they openly arm and treat terrorists and train them so those the US, UK, France, Saudi and UAE.

[Fenriis]

Anyway back to Italy now. As for the migrants the boat operators must be arrested for treason

Why, did they save lives?

Take part in human trafficking and colluded with hostile forieng criminal NGOs and human traffickers that put them in the boat in the first place when they were already in Libya

[Kubumba Tribe]

Why, did they save lives?

Take part in human trafficking and colluded with hostile forieng criminal NGOs and human traffickers that put them in the boat in the first place when they were already in Libya

In other words, they saved lives.
Also, from reading the OP, the rescue ship took the refugees from the traffickers, they weren't working with them.

[Fenriis]

Take part in human trafficking and colluded with hostile forieng criminal NGOs and human traffickers that put them in the boat in the first place when they were already in Libya

In other words, they saved lives.
Also, from reading the OP, the rescue ship took the refugees from the traffickers, they weren't working with them.

They collaborated with traffickers and helped their wicked business. The boat should have been a lesson so no one else would do this again or the very least they should have been arrested and deported back to their countries

[Vassenor]

In other words, they saved lives.
Also, from reading the OP, the rescue ship took the refugees from the traffickers, they weren't working with them.

They collaborated with traffickers and helped their wicked business. The boat should have been a lesson so no one else would do this again or the very least they should have been arrested and deported back to their countries

In what way did they collaborate with the traffickers?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

The boat should have been a lesson

...What do you mean by this...?

They collaborated with traffickers and helped their wicked business. The boat should have been a lesson so no one else would do this again or the very least they should have been arrested and deported back to their countries

In what way did they collaborate with the traffickers?

They didn't.

[Fahran]

The ship crew committed treason by working with people smugglers and by trafficking people into Europe to start with.

That's not treason. That's human trafficking, another crime altogether.

Stephen is a monetary reformist who left the South African bank for being a whistle blower and for exposing international finance. He also backs up his points.

He doesn't adequately back either his Holocaust denial or his revisionist approach to World War II. The guy's a conspiracy theorist with no credibility as a serious historian. He was fired from his job for being an Anti-Semite, not for being a whistle-blower.

As for the picture I got it off my mate but the videos explain way more and use facts and dates and quotes not to mention that the fake "gas" attacks were used against Iraq and multiple other nations to justify invasion and bombings by the US.

Except none of these gas attacks were faked. Al Anfal definitely happened. They're still finding mass graves to prove it. You do realize that Iraq used chemical weapons against your Iranian freedom fighters as well, right?

As for Israel's neutrality they openly arm and treat terrorists and train them so those the US, UK, France, Saudi and UAE.

Source?

[Fenriis]

The ship crew committed treason by working with people smugglers and by trafficking people into Europe to start with.

That's not treason. That's human trafficking, another crime altogether.

Stephen is a monetary reformist who left the South African bank for being a whistle blower and for exposing international finance. He also backs up his points.

He doesn't adequately back either his Holocaust denial or his revisionist approach to World War II. The guy's a conspiracy theorist with no credibility as a serious historian. He was fired from his job for being an Anti-Semite, not for being a whistle-blower.

As for the picture I got it off my mate but the videos explain way more and use facts and dates and quotes not to mention that the fake "gas" attacks were used against Iraq and multiple other nations to justify invasion and bombings by the US.

Except none of these gas attacks were faked. Al Anfal definitely happened. They're still finding mass graves to prove it. You do realize that Iraq used chemical weapons against your Iranian freedom fighters as well, right?

As for Israel's neutrality they openly arm and treat terrorists and train them so those the US, UK, France, Saudi and UAE.

Source?

Human trafficking and its an act against the people hence the treason. When I am talking about Goodson(to the mods I am not promoting any sites) I mean his report on international finance him question the validity of the official holocaust narrative and some of its inconsistencies is another topic. The gas attacks were released by globalist backed rebels there is no evidence Assad did it and my videos explain it. He has no reason to bomb a village with chemicals when he already won and didn't use gas in previous much tougher targets. The white helmets jihadis even agreed to vacate the area there is no reason Assad did to the contrary he didn't do it. Meanwhile Israel uses white phosphorus on civilians(which is even worse and melts people) and the US has a history with agent orange and the US gives Saudi cluster bombs to carpet bomb Yemen. Back to Italy it is treason when these illegal organisations are waging demographic warfare on Europe