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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:39 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
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If you have other skills, then you can do something else.

Blaming others for things you're not doing isn't going to get you anywhere. In Africa or anywhere else.

Yeah yeah I’m a terrible person for being poor


I didn't say that.

And sure, maybe you won't be successful in pursuing other lines of work. But becoming bitter and blaming others for your problems isn't going to get you past even step 1.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:39 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:Dishonorable discharge
I married a coworker like a monster


Your personal life is not the subject of this thread, especially given that in previous instances when you cited it you reacted with indignation when said story was responded to.
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:39 pm

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So why not go back to being a soldier?

Dishonorable discharge
I married a coworker like a monster


You get a dishonorable discharge for marriage? What is wrong with the UN?!
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:40 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Dishonorable discharge
I married a coworker like a monster


Your personal life is not the subject of this thread, especially given that in previous instances when you cited it you reacted with indignation when said story was responded to.

Hence why I’m getting off the subject
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:41 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:The majority of posters espousing Right-Wing views outside of the containment board RWDT? What's going on here?


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Postby Shofercia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:41 pm

Fine, fine, let's get back on topic - any responses from other countries?
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:41 pm

The Portland Territory wrote:The majority of posters espousing Right-Wing views outside of the containment board RWDT? What's going on here?

I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat and that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.

Shofercia wrote:Fine, fine, let's get back on topic - any responses from other countries?

Other than the Italian branch of the UN saying "Someone has to take them!" Nothing.
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:43 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:The majority of posters espousing Right-Wing views outside of the containment board RWDT? What's going on here?

I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat at that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.


I will personally take care of Shakira from Africa. Hope that helps!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRpeEdMmmQ0
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:43 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
The Portland Territory wrote:The majority of posters espousing Right-Wing views outside of the containment board RWDT? What's going on here?

I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat at that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.

As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:44 pm

Africa should just be put under the Ethiopian Empire (which needs to be restored first). That'll solve it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:44 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat at that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.

As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings


They're not your siblings tho

They aren't even from the same continent as you.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:44 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat at that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.

As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings


But they're not nor is there any reason to do what you suggest.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:45 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Africa should just be put under the Ethiopian Empire (which needs to be restored first). That'll solve it.


Haile Selassie for God-Emperor when?
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:45 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat at that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.

As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings


Sometimes siblings need some tough love.
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Postby Ieskarios » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:45 pm

Not from Europe here (from Canada), and I don't think we should really be accepting as many migrants either.
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Africa should just be put under the Ethiopian Empire (which needs to be restored first). That'll solve it.


I'm good with that. What's the first step?
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings


But they're not nor is there any reason to do what you suggest.

You’re right
Just kill them
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:I think everyone but the most naive person realizes that Europe cannot literally be expected to take care of every single person from Africa just because they show up on a boat at that this needs to stop sooner rather than latter before things get even worse than they are.

As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings


No, because they're not our siblings and they're not our families which we should be protecting first before bloody foreigners.

Particularly foreigners who decide of their own will to put their lives at risk for European wealth.
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Postby Nationalist Nihon » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Nationalist Nihon wrote:In the end, it's always the indigenous people of said country that a refugee is seeking asylum in that gets the shaft.

It's a big problem here in California. Someone that puts into the system for years and years gets nothing from because it's all going to the refugees. And why is that? Because this is the Democrats last vain attempt to keep themselves in power by basically bribing "legal immigrants" to vote for them.


It's all going to the refugees? All of it? So the developers, the builders, the healthcare lobby, the prison industrial complex, the "hardworking" administrators earning "mere" hundreds of thousands of dollars, the politicians, Jerry Brown's super-duper-speed-rail that will have massive cost overruns once again, none of those are as big of an issue as the refugees? You sure about that?

One of many issues with this state. I don't mind them coming, but if they aren't working hard, they can take an economy-class seat on a freighter back to their homes. We have enough problems as is.

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Postby Rashidi Jabal Shammar » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Put the migrants to work mining Uranium in Siberia with their bare hands.

Shame that none of them are actually going to Motherland.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Cekoviu wrote:They are not illegal migrants if they intend to apply for refugee status. Y'all need to learn about international law.


Implying people's views on who and who isn't an illegal immigrant is based on international treaties.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Africa should just be put under the Ethiopian Empire (which needs to be restored first). That'll solve it.


I'm good with that. What's the first step?


1. Put the House of Solomon back on the throne.

2. ????

3. Profit.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Internationalist Bastard wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
But they're not nor is there any reason to do what you suggest.

You’re right
Just kill them

I know you're trying to make a point but try not to make it that way, okay?
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Postby Shofercia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Nationalist Nihon wrote:
Shofercia wrote:
It's all going to the refugees? All of it? So the developers, the builders, the healthcare lobby, the prison industrial complex, the "hardworking" administrators earning "mere" hundreds of thousands of dollars, the politicians, Jerry Brown's super-duper-speed-rail that will have massive cost overruns once again, none of those are as big of an issue as the refugees? You sure about that?

One of many issues with this state. I don't mind them coming, but if they aren't working hard, they can take an economy-class seat on a freighter back to their homes. We have enough problems as is.


Fair enough. I'd just deport the felons, and let the rest stay and give them a chance to earn their share. But if you're a felon, there's no room for you in mah state.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:47 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:As I’ve said I understand not handling the load, but these are people
Treat them like your siblings


Sometimes siblings need some tough love.

Yeah but when they show up at your door asking for help you help them. Not slam your door and tell them to try harder.
That’s all I’m asking. Help people build better lives not just tell them to do it themselves
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