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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:08 am

Forund wrote:
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Haiti begs for help from europeans rather than gets on its ass and advance itself, that is the proof. Same to black americans who rather beg us to help them than do anything on their own.

Because it can't because it has been exploited for its resources for centuries and so can't obtain enough to self advance.
Black Americans aren't blacks as a whole.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:08 am

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Forund wrote:The south of Australia is green, try again. Also Tasmania is forested.

Let's get back on the topic of immigration. If a well-educated Nigerian scientist with favorable views wanted to immigrate to your country and went about it the right way, would you favor him over an uneducated Serbian immigrant who disliked your country?

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Postby Forund » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:10 am

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Forund wrote:The south of Australia is green, try again. Also Tasmania is forested.

Let's get back on the topic of immigration. If a well-educated Nigerian scientist with favorable views wanted to immigrate to your country and went about it the right way, would you favor him over an uneducated Serbian immigrant who disliked your country?


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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:11 am

So Forund's a racist. Or at least, highly prejudiced.
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Postby Forund » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:11 am

Estanglia wrote:
Forund wrote:
Haiti begs for help from europeans rather than gets on its ass and advance itself, that is the proof. Same to black americans who rather beg us to help them than do anything on their own.

Because it can't because it has been exploited for its resources for centuries and so can't obtain enough to self advance.
Black Americans aren't blacks as a whole.


Haiti still has alot of resources, the blacks of Haiti are just lazy fucks who dont want to do anything but rely on white people.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:12 am

Forund wrote:
Estanglia wrote:Because it can't because it has been exploited for its resources for centuries and so can't obtain enough to self advance.
Black Americans aren't blacks as a whole.


Haiti still has alot of resources, the blacks of Haiti are just lazy fucks who dont want to do anything but rely on white people.

Prove it.
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Postby Patridam » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:12 am

This is good news, and good for Europe. The same thing is happening in the US with illegals from south/central america being stopped by better border control.

Europe has seen miserable consequences economically, socially, and criminally resulting from mass migration. Most of these people are fleeing lousy countries with conflict both military and criminal and/or oppressive societies/governments, to go to first world nations that are "better." But then they proceed to start making the first world countries more and more like the places they are fleeing.
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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:12 am

Estanglia wrote:
Forund wrote:
Haiti still has alot of resources, the blacks of Haiti are just lazy fucks who dont want to do anything but rely on white people.

Prove it.

Haiti is proof that it doesn't function so the muh prove it doesn't work

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:13 am

Patridam wrote:This is good news, and good for Europe. The same thing is happening in the US with illegals from south/central america being stopped by better border control.

Europe has seen miserable consequences economically, socially, and criminally resulting from mass migration. Most of these people are fleeing lousy countries with conflict both military and criminal and/or oppressive societies/governments, to go to first world nations that are "better." But then they proceed to start making the first world countries more and more like the places they are fleeing.

Prove the last sentence in your post.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:14 am

Fenriis wrote:
Estanglia wrote:Prove it.

Haiti is proof that it doesn't function so the muh prove it doesn't work

So you agree that 'black' people are lazy?
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:14 am

Fenriis wrote:
Estanglia wrote:Prove it.

Haiti is proof that it doesn't function so the muh prove it doesn't work

Strawman.
I've not done that, I'm asking him to prove that Haiti is a shithole because of blacks, something he's not done.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:15 am

Forund wrote:The Nigerian

So then you concede that a country having more black people isn't necessarily going to negatively impact its culture then? The quality of the immigrants on an individual basis matters? Excellent.

Now, let's try another example. Would you rather have an educated Xhosa immigrant from South Africa who speaks English and is accustomed to common law or an educated Russian immigrant who doesn't speak English and is more accustomed to the oligarchic system present in Russia?
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:16 am

Fahran wrote:
Forund wrote:The Nigerian

So then you concede that a country having more black people isn't necessarily going to negatively impact its culture then? The quality of the immigrants on an individual basis matters? Excellent.

Now, let's try another example. Would you rather have an educated Xhosa immigrant from South Africa who speaks English and is accustomed to common law or an educated Russian immigrant who is more accustomed to the oligarchic system present in Russia?

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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:17 am

Estanglia wrote:
Forund wrote:Africans are ancient
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/12/ ... oup-planet

So no excuse you make will explain their backwardness relative to everyone else on the globe at that point.

Again you've done it. Have you even read all of my comment? In it, I explained that geography is the reason. Go and read it, I've already given you an 'excuse'.

"foreign help"
Oh so black people are just incompetent babies who need to be assisted by whites huh, you racist.

Strawman. You must really like strawmen, huh?
'foreign help' isn't just the white man coming along and 'saving' these people. Every country on the face of the earth has received help from foreigners, whether by them inventing a new technology or supplying them with aid.

Muh geography is wrong. Africa is much more resource which than Europe or say Japan or Korea yet they are more primitive and backwards as a civilisation

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Postby Forund » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:18 am

Fahran wrote:
Forund wrote:The Nigerian

So then you concede that a country having more black people isn't necessarily going to negatively impact its culture then? The quality of the immigrants on an individual basis matters? Excellent.

Now, let's try another example. Would you rather have an educated Xhosa immigrant from South Africa who speaks English and is accustomed to common law or an educated Russian immigrant who doesn't speak English and is more accustomed to the oligarchic system present in Russia?


Look as long as we take in the blacks that wanna work instead of the criminal leechs(refugees) Im fine with it so long as my country always remains white majority.

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Postby Christmas Pudding » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:19 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Wtf does the Malian empire and its culture have to do with modern day african migrants?

Digging back a little.

Last time the dude did this, he came on and posted roughly 100 posts over a ~7 hour stretch about how black people (or "beings" as he said) are inherently inferior and some cabal (referred to as "them") are trying to Africanize the whole world.

This is his rationale for opposing immigration into Europe.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:19 am

Fenriis wrote:
Estanglia wrote:Again you've done it. Have you even read all of my comment? In it, I explained that geography is the reason. Go and read it, I've already given you an 'excuse'.


Strawman. You must really like strawmen, huh?
'foreign help' isn't just the white man coming along and 'saving' these people. Every country on the face of the earth has received help from foreigners, whether by them inventing a new technology or supplying them with aid.

Muh geography is wrong. Africa is much more resource which than Europe or say Japan or Korea yet they are more primitive and backwards as a civilisation

Geography is a valid reason for advancement. People in the middle of a desert have different resources from people in a jungle.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:19 am

Forund wrote:
Fahran wrote:So then you concede that a country having more black people isn't necessarily going to negatively impact its culture then? The quality of the immigrants on an individual basis matters? Excellent.

Now, let's try another example. Would you rather have an educated Xhosa immigrant from South Africa who speaks English and is accustomed to common law or an educated Russian immigrant who doesn't speak English and is more accustomed to the oligarchic system present in Russia?


Look as long as we take in the blacks that wanna work instead of the criminal leechs(refugees) Im fine with it so long as my country always remains white majority.

So refugees are bad?
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:20 am

Fenriis wrote:
Estanglia wrote:Again you've done it. Have you even read all of my comment? In it, I explained that geography is the reason. Go and read it, I've already given you an 'excuse'.


Strawman. You must really like strawmen, huh?
'foreign help' isn't just the white man coming along and 'saving' these people. Every country on the face of the earth has received help from foreigners, whether by them inventing a new technology or supplying them with aid.

Muh geography is wrong. Africa is much more resource which than Europe or say Japan or Korea yet they are more primitive and backwards as a civilisation

Firstly, Prove It.
Secondly, A desert and jungle might be resource rich, but it's harder to access these resources.
My point still stands.
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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:20 am

Firaxin wrote:
Forund wrote:
No basically blacks are not advanced because they wont want to be advanced. I just want you stop the excuses justifying their backwardness relative to Eurasia or the New World. The native americans have a legit reason why they only had little civilization in their areas because they were so isolated from Eurasia, along with bad crops, and barely anything like a horse.

People with pigment in their skin (something which they cannot choose) are anti-technology and anti-society just because. -What you just said.

Race is more than skin colour. Its also skullshape, brain structure and so much more

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Postby Forund » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:21 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Forund wrote:
Look as long as we take in the blacks that wanna work instead of the criminal leechs(refugees) Im fine with it so long as my country always remains white majority.

So refugees are bad?


Yes they are bad because they are often the garbage of their country's genetic pool, while legal immigrants are the top. Most of these african refugees are criminal scum back in their lands.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:21 am

I pose a question for everyone here:
Are black people lazy? Yes or No?
Forund, you don't have to answervthis question, you already gave your answer.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:21 am

Forund wrote:
Fahran wrote:So then you concede that a country having more black people isn't necessarily going to negatively impact its culture then? The quality of the immigrants on an individual basis matters? Excellent.

Now, let's try another example. Would you rather have an educated Xhosa immigrant from South Africa who speaks English and is accustomed to common law or an educated Russian immigrant who doesn't speak English and is more accustomed to the oligarchic system present in Russia?


Look as long as we take in the blacks that wanna work instead of the criminal leechs(refugees) Im fine with it so long as my country always remains white majority.


>Criminal leechs(sic)

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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:22 am

Forund wrote:Look as long as we take in the blacks that wanna work instead of the criminal leechs(refugees) Im fine with it so long as my country always remains white majority.

Alright. We're making a bit of progress then. Black people are fine so long as they want to work and contribute to society.

Let me ask you another question. Would you rather take in black immigrants that speak your language, practice your religion, cook food similar to yours, and have a political culture that resembles yours or take in white immigrants that speak a different language, practice a different religion, cook different food, and have a different political culture? The point I'm getting to is that you care more about culture than race. You just haven't realized that yet.

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Postby Estanglia » Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:23 am

Fenriis wrote:
Firaxin wrote:People with pigment in their skin (something which they cannot choose) are anti-technology and anti-society just because. -What you just said.

Race is more than skin colour. Its also skullshape, brain structure and so much more

And?
Brain structure is not race specific, all humans have the same brain structure with minor differences (with the exception of the differences between biological sexes, and people with mental/physical disabilities).
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Meh: Labour, the EU
Nah: pointless discrimination, authoritarianism, Brexit, Trump, both American parties, the Conservatives
I flop between "optimistic about the future" and "pessimistic about the future" every time I go on NSG.

(Taken 29/08/2020)
Political compass test:
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

8values thinks I'm a Libertarian Socialist.

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