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Postby Arlenton » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:13 am

Terra Novae Libero wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:I've long thought a decent compromise would be to gear immigration towards primarily allowing women to come. Businesses would still get their labor, and women just don't engender the same issues as allowing in large numbers of young men do.


Great then the countries they come from get theproblems instead

Isn't that the point?

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Postby Arlenton » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:14 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:I've long thought a decent compromise would be to gear immigration towards primarily allowing women to come. Businesses would still get their labor, and women just don't engender the same issues as allowing in large numbers of young men do.


I doubt they would be ready to abandon their husbands and kids just because some bureaucrat decided so.

Then they just don't come.

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Postby United States of Oceania » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:23 am

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I doubt they would be ready to abandon their husbands and kids just because some bureaucrat decided so.

Then they just don't come.


It's an historical mass-scale phenomenon, they will keep coming regardless of what governments decide.
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Good Riddance.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:30 am

United States of Oceania wrote:It's an historical mass-scale phenomenon, they will keep coming regardless of what governments decide.

And if they aren't refugees and get deported back across the Mediterranean?

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:33 am

KingFerdinand1 wrote:Good Riddance.


Why?
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:46 am

United States of Oceania wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Then they just don't come.


It's an historical mass-scale phenomenon, they will keep coming regardless of what governments decide.

You just said they wouldn't come?

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Postby KingFerdinand1 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
KingFerdinand1 wrote:Good Riddance.


Why?

Hint Is In The Name. ILLEGAL. You Want To Immigrant, Obey The Law.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:54 am

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Why?

Hint Is In The Name. ILLEGAL. You Want To Immigrant, Obey The Law.


You haven't actually read up on the situation, have you?
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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:54 am

Vassenor wrote:
KingFerdinand1 wrote:Hint Is In The Name. ILLEGAL. You Want To Immigrant, Obey The Law.


You haven't actually read up on the situation, have you?

Probably not, nope.

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Postby KingFerdinand1 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:57 am

Vassenor wrote:
KingFerdinand1 wrote:Hint Is In The Name. ILLEGAL. You Want To Immigrant, Obey The Law.


You haven't actually read up on the situation, have you?

Send These Immigrants Back To There Own Country, If They Want To Come To A First World Country, They Should Do What Everyone Else Has To.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:58 am

KingFerdinand1 wrote:
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You haven't actually read up on the situation, have you?

Send These Immigrants Back To There Own Country, If They Want To Come To A First World Country, They Should Do What Everyone Else Has To.

Seeking asylum is legal.
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Postby KingFerdinand1 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:00 am

Ifreann wrote:
KingFerdinand1 wrote:Send These Immigrants Back To There Own Country, If They Want To Come To A First World Country, They Should Do What Everyone Else Has To.

Seeking asylum is legal.

Doesnt Mean Italy Have To Accept Them.
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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:02 am

Italy belongs to the Italians pretty simple really. The right left coalition of anti globalists in Italy put the Italian people not migrants and corporations and international finance first. This shows the true struggle is against nationalism and globalism, good and evil, freedom and slavery, the self determination not globalist Zionist cabal's occupation

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:03 am

Fenriis wrote:Italy belongs to the Italians pretty simple really. The right left coalition of anti globalists in Italy put the Italian people not migrants and corporations and international finance first. This shows the true struggle is against nationalism and globalism, good and evil, freedom and slavery, the self determination not globalist Zionist cabal's occupation


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Postby KingFerdinand1 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:05 am

Fenriis wrote:Italy belongs to the Italians pretty simple really. The right left coalition of anti globalists in Italy put the Italian people not migrants and corporations and international finance first. This shows the true struggle is against nationalism and globalism, good and evil, freedom and slavery, the self determination not globalist Zionist cabal's occupation

Every Country Belongs To There Citizens. Well Said Friend.
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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:07 am

Fahran wrote:
United States of Oceania wrote:It's an historical mass-scale phenomenon, they will keep coming regardless of what governments decide.

And if they aren't refugees and get deported back across the Mediterranean?

Europe is already swamped with migrants many economical and ever since the gates to the 3rd world was open thousands of innocent women and children were raped, crime skyrocketed, welfare costs went up all the while corporations let other peoples children get raped or other neighbour hoods taken over by gangs for muh cheap labour. The new Italian government says that so many things are more important than muh GDP and this hasn't even helped the economy

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:07 am

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Fahran wrote:And if they aren't refugees and get deported back across the Mediterranean?

Europe is already swamped with migrants many economical and ever since the gates to the 3rd world was open thousands of innocent women and children were raped, crime skyrocketed, welfare costs went up all the while corporations let other peoples children get raped or other neighbour hoods taken over by gangs for muh cheap labour. The new Italian government says that so many things are more important than muh GDP and this hasn't even helped the economy

Let's see your data then.
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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:08 am

KingFerdinand1 wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Italy belongs to the Italians pretty simple really. The right left coalition of anti globalists in Italy put the Italian people not migrants and corporations and international finance first. This shows the true struggle is against nationalism and globalism, good and evil, freedom and slavery, the self determination not globalist Zionist cabal's occupation

Every Country Belongs To There Citizens. Well Said Friend.

Exactly. And most of these liberals will praise Gandhi but demonise people if a western person says the same thing and push for self determination

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:08 am

Fenriis wrote:
Fahran wrote:And if they aren't refugees and get deported back across the Mediterranean?

Europe is already swamped with migrants many economical and ever since the gates to the 3rd world was open thousands of innocent women and children were raped, crime skyrocketed, welfare costs went up all the while corporations let other peoples children get raped or other neighbour hoods taken over by gangs for muh cheap labour. The new Italian government says that so many things are more important than muh GDP and this hasn't even helped the economy


You do know they just let a ship land with 900 migrants on it this time?

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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:08 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Europe is already swamped with migrants many economical and ever since the gates to the 3rd world was open thousands of innocent women and children were raped, crime skyrocketed, welfare costs went up all the while corporations let other peoples children get raped or other neighbour hoods taken over by gangs for muh cheap labour. The new Italian government says that so many things are more important than muh GDP and this hasn't even helped the economy


You do know they just let a ship land with 900 migrants on it this time?

So tragic they need to grow more spine and courage and do the right thing. There people especially protecting women and children should come first

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Postby Fahran » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:12 am

Vassenor wrote:
Fenriis wrote:Italy belongs to the Italians pretty simple really. The right left coalition of anti globalists in Italy put the Italian people not migrants and corporations and international finance first. This shows the true struggle is against nationalism and globalism, good and evil, freedom and slavery, the self determination not globalist Zionist cabal's occupation


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Postby Fenriis » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:14 am

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Fenriis wrote:The Talmud and the Jewish ethno religion which is seen in the old testament does teach that us "goys" are subhuman and its ok to kill and enslave "goys" and even rape "goy" children.

1.) Goyim is the plural. Goys is nonsense.

2.) Goy translates as nation and can imply either a single person who is a member of a larger nation or a nation as a whole. Technically, Jews are goyim as well. The term is not derogatory, but has been used as slang to describe non-Jews because calling them "strangers" doesn't make all that much sense when you've lived next to them for generations within the same state.

3.) The Talmud does not allow the murder or rape of anyone. While Jews are usually allowed to violate mitzvot if threatened with death for keeping them, this doesn't apply to three particular mitzvot as stated by Maimonides, the great rationalist Jewish scholar. These are as follows:
    a. don't commit murder
    b. don't engage in forbidden sexual relations - this includes rape, bestiality, adultery, and, according to some, male homosexual acts
    c. don't commit idolatry
Source.

4.) The Torah allowed for slavery, but this generally applied to fellow Jewish people and was more akin to indentured servitude than chattel slavery. This doesn't make it good, and we should be glad it's not compulsory under Torah.

Fenriis wrote:ABODAH ZARAH, 36b-37a. "R. Naham b. Isaac said: They decreed in connection with a heathen child that it would cause defilement by seminal emission (2) so that an Israelite child should not become accustomed to commit pederasty with it...From what age does a heathen child cause defilement by seminal emission? From the age of nine years and one day. (37a) for inasmuch as he is then capable of the sexual act he likewise defiles by emission. Rabina said: It is therefore to be concluded that a heathen girl (communicates defilement) from the age of three years and one day, for inasmuch as she is then capable of the sexual act she likewise defiles by a flux.
Another one is "if you eat with a goy its like eating with an animal" or "all the children of goyim are animals"

These tracts do not exist, at least not as you've written them. Here's an online copy of the Talmudic text. It has both English and Hebrew.

Source.

How do you explain all the racial supremacy in the religion. For example goyim are compared to animals, black people are called schwartza, gentile women are called shiksa meaning carcass of a pig and other Jews they find stupid are called goyisha kup meaning stupid gentile brain. Yet diversity is pushed on other nations like Italy while Israel ones a racist apartheid state that kills Palestinians and I heard they put babies they murdered in ice cream containers, they mass murder Palestinians and blacks aren't even allowed to have blood transfusions and there are loads of race laws and its legal rape if a gentile man has intercourse with a Jew and they have laws to stop race mixing and to be on topic they have mass deported blacks and sterilised blacks but Italy isn't allowed to stop illegal invaders who are storming their shores on boats with illegal people smugglers
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:35 am

As much as I can be pretty right on the political scale regarding immigration...

Get that "Zionist conspiracy" sh*t away from this thread, you ruin the credibility of actual arguments against illegal immigration.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:35 am

Fenriis wrote:...black people are called schwartza...

Schwartz means black in German and, I'm guessing, Yiddish. What's supremacist about calling black people black?
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