Libertarian Discussion Thread II - Don't Thread on Me

[The Liberated Territories]

https://reason.com/2020/06/23/trump-wanted-to-throw-massie-out-of-republican-party-but-the-libertarian-leaning-congressman-just-won-his-primary-anyway/

Fuck Trump and the Republican Party which has unveiled itself to be the antithesis of the values it supposedly stands for.

What values? It stands for nothing. If they support something, they'd automatically turn against it if the democrats were to also support it.

I've said this many times before but if the Republicans were to come out for something radically left wing the Democrats would probably oppose it because they oppose the Republicans.

[The Reformed American Republic]

What values? It stands for nothing. If they support something, they'd automatically turn against it if the democrats were to also support it.

I've said this many times before but if the Republicans were to come out for something radically left wing the Democrats would probably oppose it because they oppose the Republicans.

That is also true. Our parties are worthless, and they collaborate to bar political outsiders.

[Kowani]

https://reason.com/2020/06/23/trump-wanted-to-throw-massie-out-of-republican-party-but-the-libertarian-leaning-congressman-just-won-his-primary-anyway/

Fuck Trump and the Republican Party which has unveiled itself to be the antithesis of the values it supposedly stands for.

The Republican Party is anti-First Amendment,

[Mikky Empire]

woke

[The Reformed American Republic]

https://reason.com/2020/06/23/trump-wanted-to-throw-massie-out-of-republican-party-but-the-libertarian-leaning-congressman-just-won-his-primary-anyway/

Fuck Trump and the Republican Party which has unveiled itself to be the antithesis of the values it supposedly stands for.

The Republican Party is anti-First Amendment,

Not really what the first amendment is for, but ok.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

The Republican Party is anti-First Amendment,

Not really what the first amendment is for, but ok.

The first amendment is for protecting free speech, and flag burning is free speech.

[Neuer Deutsches Reich]

https://reason.com/2020/06/23/trump-wanted-to-throw-massie-out-of-republican-party-but-the-libertarian-leaning-congressman-just-won-his-primary-anyway/

Fuck Trump and the Republican Party which has unveiled itself to be the antithesis of the values it supposedly stands for.

The Republican Party is anti-First Amendment,

you can consider burning the flag to be free speech, but it can also be considered rebellion. No matter what country and their free speech, nowhere will people accept others burning their flag except the EU flag, it looks better burned

[Kowani]

The Republican Party is anti-First Amendment,

you can consider burning the flag to be free speech, but it can also be considered rebellion.

Legally speaking, no. It’s just free speech.

No matter what country and their free speech, nowhere will people accept others burning their flag except the EU flag, it looks better burned

The EU is not a country.

[True Refuge]

The Republican Party is anti-First Amendment,

you can consider burning the flag to be free speech, but it can also be considered rebellion. No matter what country and their free speech, nowhere will people accept others burning their flag except the EU flag, it looks better burned

The same could be said of any act that criticises the government.

[Idzequitch]

you can consider burning the flag to be free speech, but it can also be considered rebellion. No matter what country and their free speech, nowhere will people accept others burning their flag except the EU flag, it looks better burned

The same could be said of any act that criticises the government.

End of the day, it's a piece of fabric. A piece of fabric that represents something, yes, but a mere piece of fabric nonetheless. Banning the burning of a piece of fabric is stupid.

But what do I know? I criticize the government constantly. I guess I'm basically un-American.

[Kedri]

So, uhhh... What are y'all's thoughts on open borders?

[Kowani]

So, uhhh... What are y'all's thoughts on open borders?

I go one step further-nations should not exist.

[No State Here]

So, uhhh... What are y'all's thoughts on open borders?

Is it actually something people believe in? It seems like a conservative boogeyman

[Kedri]

So, uhhh... What are y'all's thoughts on open borders?

Is it actually something people believe in? It seems like a conservative boogeyman

I've seen some libertarians call for it.

It seems like some Democrats want it while not actually using the term "open borders."

[West Leas Oros 2]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

[Northern Davincia]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

Libertarians can agree on nothing, making unity a foreign concept. Unofficially, we cling to the right more often than not, but even this is met with intense disagreement.

[West Leas Oros 2]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

Libertarians can agree on nothing, making unity a foreign concept. Unofficially, we cling to the right more often than not, but even this is met with intense disagreement.

Understandable enough I suppose.

[Idzequitch]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

Unity? Psshh. We prefer to antagonize one another with purity tests. You don't pass the test, you don't get in the club. The club also only has like 17 people in it because the test is so rigorous. This Also helps explain why libertarianism never really manages to take off in America.

I only consider myself a libertarian sympathizer myself, as I'm one of the sort that doesn't pass the purity tests.

[Minskiev]

Open borders is maybe a little too much, and abolishing borders in 2020 or even the near future is insane.

[Northern Davincia]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

Unity? Psshh. We prefer to antagonize one another with purity tests. You don't pass the test, you don't get in the club. The club also only has like 17 people in it because the test is so rigorous. This Also helps explain why libertarianism never really manages to take off in America.

I only consider myself a libertarian sympathizer myself, as I'm one of the sort that doesn't pass the purity tests.

You could always take the Hoppe pill.

[Proctopeo]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

Unity is for suckers. There's no harm in forming temporary alliances to achieve a mutual goal, however.

[West Leas Oros 2]

So... what is the libertarian belief on “unity”? The Left talks “left unity” and the Right talks “right unity”, but where do you, as mostly right-libertarians, see potential allies?

Unity is for suckers. There's no harm in forming temporary alliances to achieve a mutual goal, however.

Well said. Certainly a lot cleaner than when the unity collapses.

[The Liberated Territories]

libertarians don't agree on anything. That is the beauty of libertarianism

[The Liberated Territories]

Even Ayn Rand believed in open borders

[Kowani]

Even Ayn Rand believed in open borders

Stopped clock moment, though I suspect her reasoning was characteristically terrible.


Edit: Willing to admit, I was totally wrong, her reasoning is sound.