Libertarian Discussion Thread II - Don't Thread on Me

[Rojava Free State]

So libertarians.

How do we conspire to get into government in order to enact our evil, poor hating legislation? Obviously being sarcastic?

We all move to the same state, elect a legislature, governor, and Congresscritters, then repeat as needed in other states.

Time to quit my job and go full nomad

[Totenborg]

So libertarians.

How do we conspire to get into government in order to enact our evil, poor hating legislation? Obviously being sarcastic?

What you've been doing has been pretty successful so far. Who needs to rule directly when you can just buy legislators?

[Goldstandardstan]

why there oughtta be a law

To protect private property™, ofcourse.

[Vascottozer]

So libertarians.

How do we conspire to get into government in order to enact our evil, poor hating legislation? Obviously being sarcastic?

Heheheheheheheh

This:

We all move to the same state, elect a legislature, governor, and Congresscritters, then repeat as needed in other states.

[The Liberated Territories]

why there oughtta be a law

To protect private property™, ofcourse.

hippity hoppity protect private property

[The Liberated Territories]

Shower thought:

IF the leftist-progressives are correct about abortion being healthcare, then it stands to reason that it should be treated like healthcare: that is, not funded by the state and left for the individual to decide. For healthcare to be funded by the state removes the individual component and attempts to force a "one-size-fits-all" approach to the uniqueness of the service. Hence everything from wait-lines to the travesty where the plug is pulled on children.

If abortion is not healthcare, then the same rule applies, as abortion is hardly the same type of healthcare that you would get if you broke your leg and needed an operation, and should not be funded by the taxpayer dime.

In any case, I think it should be agreeable that people should not be forced to fund things that they do not morally believe in.

[Northern Davincia]

Shower thought:

IF the leftist-progressives are correct about abortion being healthcare, then it stands to reason that it should be treated like healthcare: that is, not funded by the state and left for the individual to decide. For healthcare to be funded by the state removes the individual component and attempts to force a "one-size-fits-all" approach to the uniqueness of the service. Hence everything from wait-lines to the travesty where the plug is pulled on children.

If abortion is not healthcare, then the same rule applies, as abortion is hardly the same type of healthcare that you would get if you broke your leg and needed an operation, and should not be funded by the taxpayer dime.

In any case, I think it should be agreeable that people should not be forced to fund things that they do not morally believe in.

I agree with the underlying sentiment of this, although abortion is a profound evil.

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Shower thought:

IF the leftist-progressives are correct about abortion being healthcare, then it stands to reason that it should be treated like healthcare: that is, not funded by the state and left for the individual to decide. For healthcare to be funded by the state removes the individual component and attempts to force a "one-size-fits-all" approach to the uniqueness of the service. Hence everything from wait-lines to the travesty where the plug is pulled on children.

If abortion is not healthcare, then the same rule applies, as abortion is hardly the same type of healthcare that you would get if you broke your leg and needed an operation, and should not be funded by the taxpayer dime.

In any case, I think it should be agreeable that people should not be forced to fund things that they do not morally believe in.

Us "leftists-progressives" don't think all the other kinds of health care should be capitalist.

By the way, a person has a higher chance of dying from pregnancy complications or childbirth than dying of a broken leg, so I'd say abortion being covered is just as important.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Abortion is net-net eugenic so you should actually keep it around

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Abortion is net-net eugenic so you should actually keep it around

Maybe I'm just triggered. But this weird, edgy, semi-ironic trend of going "I support this socially liberal thing because I'm an abject eugenicist and social darwinist." To be really cringy.

[Rojava Free State]

Shower thought:

IF the leftist-progressives are correct about abortion being healthcare, then it stands to reason that it should be treated like healthcare: that is, not funded by the state and left for the individual to decide. For healthcare to be funded by the state removes the individual component and attempts to force a "one-size-fits-all" approach to the uniqueness of the service. Hence everything from wait-lines to the travesty where the plug is pulled on children.

If abortion is not healthcare, then the same rule applies, as abortion is hardly the same type of healthcare that you would get if you broke your leg and needed an operation, and should not be funded by the taxpayer dime.

In any case, I think it should be agreeable that people should not be forced to fund things that they do not morally believe in.

I agree with the underlying sentiment of this, although abortion is a profound evil.

If it can't live outside the womb, it's not a human as far as I'm concerned. This is why I'm pro abortion.

[Taihei Tengoku]

Abortion is net-net eugenic so you should actually keep it around

Maybe I'm just triggered. But this weird, edgy, semi-ironic trend of going "I support this socially liberal thing because I'm an abject eugenicist and social darwinist." To be really cringy.

"Libertarianism" is a high-trust society built with rationally peaceful high-IQ WEIRDs. You cannot achieve it with people who are literally too stupid to comprehend its order.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Maybe I'm just triggered. But this weird, edgy, semi-ironic trend of going "I support this socially liberal thing because I'm an abject eugenicist and social darwinist." To be really cringy.

"Libertarianism" is a high-trust society built with rationally peaceful high-IQ WEIRDs. You cannot achieve it with people who are literally too stupid to comprehend its order.

That doesn't mean you need eugenics.

[Elwher]

I agree with the underlying sentiment of this, although abortion is a profound evil.

If it can't live outside the womb, it's not a human as far as I'm concerned. This is why I'm pro abortion.

Is it human if it can only live if attached to a machine?

[Vascottozer]

Shower thought:

IF the leftist-progressives are correct about abortion being healthcare, then it stands to reason that it should be treated like healthcare: that is, not funded by the state and left for the individual to decide. For healthcare to be funded by the state removes the individual component and attempts to force a "one-size-fits-all" approach to the uniqueness of the service. Hence everything from wait-lines to the travesty where the plug is pulled on children.

If abortion is not healthcare, then the same rule applies, as abortion is hardly the same type of healthcare that you would get if you broke your leg and needed an operation, and should not be funded by the taxpayer dime.

In any case, I think it should be agreeable that people should not be forced to fund things that they do not morally believe in.

I think healthcare should be funded by government, but then again I also think the economy should be the government so...

Otherwise, I'd say if the people want it publicly funded, then let it be so. If not, then leave it to corporations.

I am pro-choice all-round, but if people disagree they shouldn't have to pay. This may be difficult to enforce though - what if someone does agree but doesn't pay for it just to get out of doing it?

[Salus Maior]

Abortion is net-net eugenic so you should actually keep it around

Maybe I'm just triggered. But this weird, edgy, semi-ironic trend of going "I support this socially liberal thing because I'm an abject eugenicist and social darwinist." To be really cringy.

Maybe the Liberal-Fascist pipeline is real after all.

[The of Korea]

What do y'all think about the EZLN in Mexico?

[Taihei Tengoku]

"Libertarianism" is a high-trust society built with rationally peaceful high-IQ WEIRDs. You cannot achieve it with people who are literally too stupid to comprehend its order.

That doesn't mean you need eugenics.

It will happen--but it just means that the endogamous market-dominant minorities rule their own internal empires where the "common man" is the colonial subject. India, Russia, Brazil, and south Asia work like this.

[Zurkerx]

What do y'all think about the EZLN in Mexico?

I'm not fond of them, especially their economics.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

Maybe I'm just triggered. But this weird, edgy, semi-ironic trend of going "I support this socially liberal thing because I'm an abject eugenicist and social darwinist." To be really cringy.

Progressivism combined with eugenics and social darwinism has a long history, especially in the US.

[Mushet]

What do y'all think about the EZLN in Mexico?

I like them for the most part, but I've heard some things about encroaching on Lacandon land.

[Rojava Free State]

What do y'all think about the EZLN in Mexico?

The only real left wingers I don't like are Maoists and Stalinists. The libertarian left I consider myself part of, so I of course support the EZLN

[Rojava Free State]

If it can't live outside the womb, it's not a human as far as I'm concerned. This is why I'm pro abortion.

Is it human if it can only live if attached to a machine?

No, he's a cyborg and will be doomed to join the teen titans before inevitably the show gets rewritten to be a goofy unfunny kid show that lacks the seriousness it once had

[LiberNovusAmericae]

What do y'all think about the EZLN in Mexico?

I think their feminism is pretty extreme and I don't support their support for the abolition of capitalism. For socialists though, they are benign.

[The Liberated Territories]

There is one exception I make to government funded anything and that is free contraception. The cost is negligible and it would probably pay for itself over time.

I don't see such a policy as eugenic as I am not trying to improve the human race. However, preventing the poor from breeding is a net advantage for everyone.