Libertarian Discussion Thread II - Don't Thread on Me

[Darussalam]

Oh, good, in that case, here's your proofs. c:

I don't know, I was sort of expecting a rigorous analysis like, say, this one about a country with broadly similar economic policies as the ones you mention, but I guess if spaced letters and emojis count as intellectual then wikipages linking to generic descriptions are solid troofs

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

>implying 70K Italians on your side is a plus and not a huge negative

This is how I know early 20th century history isn't your expertise Torrocca

70k Italians on your side means 70k fewer bullets on your enemy's side, which I count as a plus.

[Torrocca]

Oh, good, in that case, here's your proofs. c:

I don't know, I was sort of expecting a rigorous analysis like, say, this one about a country with broadly similar economic policies as the ones you mention

about a country with broadly similar economic policies as the ones you mention

broadly similar economic policies

broadly similar

o h n o

but I guess if spaced letters and emojis count as intellectual then wikipages linking to generic descriptions are solid troofs

The wiki pages have plenty of sources at the bottom, if that strikes your fancy. :^)

[Torrocca]

>implying 70K Italians on your side is a plus and not a huge negative

This is how I know early 20th century history isn't your expertise Torrocca

70k Italians on your side means 70k fewer bullets on your enemy's side, which I count as a plus.

More like 7,000,000 bullets, if we're assuming an average of 100 bullets per soldier, without accounting for resupplies.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

70k Italians on your side means 70k fewer bullets on your enemy's side, which I count as a plus.

More like 7,000,000 bullets, if we're assuming an average of 100 bullets per soldier, without accounting for resupplies.

Well, it might take 100 bullets per soldier, but 99% of them would run away pretty quickly, so it balances out.

[Torrocca]

More like 7,000,000 bullets, if we're assuming an average of 100 bullets per soldier, without accounting for resupplies.

Well, it might take 100 bullets per soldier, but 99% of them would run away pretty quickly, so it balances out.

B-but the retreating is the falsified French meme, mon ami ;~;

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Well, it might take 100 bullets per soldier, but 99% of them would run away pretty quickly, so it balances out.

B-but the retreating is the falsified French meme, mon ami ;~;

French, Italian, they're both incompetent.
70k Germans or Japanese on your team and the Catalans are dead, 70k Italians or Frenchies and the Catalans get some target practice.

[Torrocca]

B-but the retreating is the falsified French meme, mon ami ;~;

French, Italian, they're both incompetent.
70k Germans or Japanese on your team and the Catalans are dead, 70k Italians or Frenchies and the Catalans get some target practice.

I mean, if we're talking 1939-onward Italians, sure. But these were 1936 Italians, who were noted to have done a decent job in regards to fighting in Spain.

[Elwher]

French, Italian, they're both incompetent.
70k Germans or Japanese on your team and the Catalans are dead, 70k Italians or Frenchies and the Catalans get some target practice.

I mean, if we're talking 1939-onward Italians, sure. But these were 1936 Italians, who were noted to have done a decent job in regards to fighting in Spain.

This is the same Italian Army that took 4 years to subdue the Ethiopians, whose most modern units were armed with pre-1900 rifles and had numerous spearmen in the army? These are the soldiers who did a decent job?

[Torrocca]

I mean, if we're talking 1939-onward Italians, sure. But these were 1936 Italians, who were noted to have done a decent job in regards to fighting in Spain.

This is the same Italian Army that took 4 years to subdue the Ethiopians, whose most modern units were armed with pre-1900 rifles and had numerous spearmen in the army? These are the soldiers who did a decent job?

I mean, according to the Nationalists and some Republican groups that encountered them, yes.

They got absolutely fucking thrashed by the Catalans though.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I mean, if we're talking 1939-onward Italians, sure. But these were 1936 Italians, who were noted to have done a decent job in regards to fighting in Spain.

This is the same Italian Army that took 4 years to subdue the Ethiopians, whose most modern units were armed with pre-1900 rifles and had numerous spearmen in the army? These are the soldiers who did a decent job?

The same Italian army that had to use chemical weapons to beat spearmen lol

Italy is a treasure, it's rare to find a nation that is so bad at something.

[Zurkerx]

I mean, if we're talking 1939-onward Italians, sure. But these were 1936 Italians, who were noted to have done a decent job in regards to fighting in Spain.

This is the same Italian Army that took 4 years to subdue the Ethiopians, whose most modern units were armed with pre-1900 rifles and had numerous spearmen in the army? These are the soldiers who did a decent job?

Joining their proud accomplishments is their colonizing of Libya, and that's not saying much. Hell, they needed the Germans help to fight the British, a nation that was fighting in both the Atlantic and Pacific.

[Proctopeo]

This is the same Italian Army that took 4 years to subdue the Ethiopians, whose most modern units were armed with pre-1900 rifles and had numerous spearmen in the army? These are the soldiers who did a decent job?

Joining their proud accomplishments is their colonizing of Libya, and that's not saying much. Hell, they needed the Germans help to fight the British, a nation that was fighting in both the Atlantic and Pacific.

mama mia invada the greece

oh no germany helpa the italy

[Washington Resistance Army]

Joining their proud accomplishments is their colonizing of Libya, and that's not saying much. Hell, they needed the Germans help to fight the British, a nation that was fighting in both the Atlantic and Pacific.

mama mia invada the greece

oh no germany helpa the italy

How to ruin operation Barbarossa in one easy step, Fürhers hate him!

[Torrocca]

Joining their proud accomplishments is their colonizing of Libya, and that's not saying much. Hell, they needed the Germans help to fight the British, a nation that was fighting in both the Atlantic and Pacific.

mama mia invada the greece

oh no germany helpa the italy

Italy was such a fuckup that they couldn't even achieve having the most popular form of Fascism, thanks to Nazi Germany lmao

[Proctopeo]

mama mia invada the greece

oh no germany helpa the italy

Italy was such a fuckup that they couldn't even achieve having the most popular form of Fascism, thanks to Nazi Germany lmao

At least they have the honor of being "pretty useful" against France in Hearts of Iron 4. Especially if Germany is being dumb.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Italy was such a fuckup that they couldn't even achieve having the most popular form of Fascism, thanks to Nazi Germany lmao

At least they have the honor of being "pretty useful" against France in Hearts of Iron 4. Especially if Germany is being dumb.

No, no no no no. Never invite Italy to the Axis. Last time I did a Germany campaign and was winning the entire war Italy actually got defeated by the Allies, capitulated and everything. it was scary how realistic it was.

[Proctopeo]

At least they have the honor of being "pretty useful" against France in Hearts of Iron 4. Especially if Germany is being dumb.

No, no no no no. Never invite Italy to the Axis. Last time I did a Germany campaign and was winning the entire war Italy actually got defeated by the Allies, capitulated and everything. it was scary how realistic it was.

They seem to act really dumb if you're Germany; if you're an Axis minor, like Hungary, they do pretty well in my experience. Depends on how the Allies AI is acting today, of course.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

At least they have the honor of being "pretty useful" against France in Hearts of Iron 4. Especially if Germany is being dumb.

No, no no no no. Never invite Italy to the Axis. Last time I did a Germany campaign and was winning the entire war Italy actually got defeated by the Allies, capitulated and everything. it was scary how realistic it was.

Maybe you could try inviting them to the faction, then kicking them out the moment they stop being useful?

[Xerographica]

Anarcho-capitalists are not libertarians.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

Anarcho-capitalists are not libertarians.

How so?

[Xerographica]

Anarcho-capitalists are not libertarians.

How so?

There's a really huge and fundamental difference between...

X = putting somebody on a diet
Y = murdering them

[Northern Davincia]

Anarcho-capitalists are not libertarians.

Welcome to the museum of wrong opinions.

How so?

There's a really huge and fundamental difference between...

X = putting somebody on a diet
Y = murdering them

What?

[Xerographica]

Anarcho-capitalists are not libertarians.

Welcome to the museum of wrong opinions.

There's a really huge and fundamental difference between...

X = putting somebody on a diet
Y = murdering them

What?

Limiting/shrinking/decreasing the government really isn't the same thing as abolishing it.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

How so?

There's a really huge and fundamental difference between...

X = putting somebody on a diet
Y = murdering them

What?