Libertarian Discussion Thread II - Don't Thread on Me

[Rojava Free State]

To an extent yes, though there are many unlibertarian policies being pushed forth by our government. We are not libertarian in our current state.

However, surely, America is not autocracy?

The videos from the DAPL protest sure seem to suggest it is. If america isn't an autocracy, its dangerously close to being one

[Crysuko]

To an extent yes, though there are many unlibertarian policies being pushed forth by our government. We are not libertarian in our current state.

However, surely, America is not autocracy?

The US is a 2 party oligarchy

[LiberNovusAmericae]

To an extent yes, though there are many unlibertarian policies being pushed forth by our government. We are not libertarian in our current state.

However, surely, America is not autocracy?

We're not, yes. But libertarian means more than just not being an autocracy.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

However, surely, America is not autocracy?

The videos from the DAPL protest sure seem to suggest it is. If america isn't an autocracy, its dangerously close to being one

We're a corrupt oligarchy.

[Imperial Joseon]

However, surely, America is not autocracy?

The US is a 2 party oligarchy

There's a President; how can it be oligarchy, unless a group of men share equal power in deciding policies and laws?

[Crysuko]

The US is a 2 party oligarchy

There's a President; how can it be oligarchy, unless a group of men share equal power in deciding policies and laws?

The president is a talking head for the true decision makers in the senate and house of reps

[Rojava Free State]

The US is a 2 party oligarchy

There's a President; how can it be oligarchy, unless a group of men share equal power in deciding policies and laws?

That's literally how our government works though. No branch is superior to another, so all the men in government do indeed share equal power in deciding laws. They're all rich, they almost all receive funding from corporate interests and many of them in the house and Senate have been in power for decades

[Rojava Free State]

There's a President; how can it be oligarchy, unless a group of men share equal power in deciding policies and laws?

The president is a talking head for the true decision makers in the senate and house of reps

The true decision makers honestly are big banks, corporations and the military industry. The Congress and president are all pawns

[Crysuko]

The president is a talking head for the true decision makers in the senate and house of reps

The true decision makers honestly are big banks, corporations and the military industry. The Congress and president are all pawns

Technically yes, but in terms of who's putting pen to paper, it's the houses. Maybe I'm quibbling, but i don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist

[Rojava Free State]

The true decision makers honestly are big banks, corporations and the military industry. The Congress and president are all pawns

Technically yes, but in terms of who's putting pen to paper, it's the houses. Maybe I'm quibbling, but i don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist

It's not a conspiracy when it's a widely known fact

[Imperial Joseon]

There's a President; how can it be oligarchy, unless a group of men share equal power in deciding policies and laws?

That's literally how our government works though. No branch is superior to another, so all the men in government do indeed share equal power in deciding laws. They're all rich, they almost all receive funding from corporate interests and many of them in the house and Senate have been in power for decades

Yeah and the President is included in one of the branches or does he hold executive power?

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

I genuinely feel that Libertarianism is a self-contradicting movement, especially moreso if pushed by the working class. Who truly benefits from it--the one classified as "blue-collar", or his white counterpart?

It's not about who benefits, it's about what's right.

[The Liberated Territories]

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/vermin- ... y-for-real

Also, "dae vermin supreme won the NH primary!" https://heavy.com/news/2020/01/did-verm ... n-primary/

[Albrenia]

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/vermin-supreme-2020-presidential-campaign-libertarian-party-for-real

Also, "dae vermin supreme won the NH primary!" https://heavy.com/news/2020/01/did-verm ... n-primary/

What a legend.

Didn't he turn some of the other candidates gay with dust last election?

[Kowani]

A wild AUTOMATION appeared!

Do both men still benefit?

Yes. See; industrial revolution.

Comparisons between the Industrial Revolution and the Robotic Revolution can go straight out the window, because it makes it extremely apparent you have no clue what you’re talking about.

[Imperial Joseon]

There's a President; how can it be oligarchy, unless a group of men share equal power in deciding policies and laws?

The president is a talking head for the true decision makers in the senate and house of reps

Trump is, probably. I see.

[Elwher]

To an extent yes, though there are many unlibertarian policies being pushed forth by our government. We are not libertarian in our current state.

However, surely, America is not autocracy?

To a large extent, yes t is. And don't call me Shirley.

[Taihei Tengoku]

The president is a talking head for the true decision makers in the senate and house of reps

The true decision makers honestly are big banks, corporations and the military industry. The Congress and president are all pawns

Imagine thinking banks, corporations, and the military are decision makers rather than arms of the state. How boomer!

[The Liberated Territories]

The true decision makers honestly are big banks, corporations and the military industry. The Congress and president are all pawns

Imagine thinking banks, corporations, and the military are decision makers rather than arms of the state. How boomer!

basted taihei is on fire

[Phoenicaea]

^ “so, perhaps is it a matter of definition?”

[Darussalam]

The true decision makers honestly are big banks, corporations and the military industry. The Congress and president are all pawns

God I wish this were the case

[The Liberated Territories]

Another reason I believe the government is comically malevolent

[Phoenicaea]

seriously, better a mediocre assembly of selfish senators and piratical no clue elected officers than efficient corporations (i mean trusts-cartels).

at least you have papers and debate, which is basis. liberties stay within true anarchy, pyramidal decisions is materialist despotism.

[The Xenopolis Confederation]

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/vermin-supreme-2020-presidential-campaign-libertarian-party-for-real

Also, "dae vermin supreme won the NH primary!" https://heavy.com/news/2020/01/did-verm ... n-primary/

I hope Vermin wins the nomination. If the libertarians don't stand a chance, they may as well have fun along the way.

Unironically though, a good meme such as Vermin is actually a good way to attract attention to libertarianism, and get more people into the ideology.

[Albrenia]

Another reason I believe the government is comically malevolent

Are they gunning for Mario or something?