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What is the best libertarian ideology?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:00 pm

Classical liberalism
32
48%
Minarchism
6
9%
Anarcho-capitalism
3
5%
Bakunin's anarchism
5
8%
Anarcho-syndicalism
11
17%
Other/Anarcho-statism
9
14%
 
Total votes : 66

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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:39 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
>Dictators

>And not the anointed Sovereign.

Ick.

Begone, royalist.


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Postby Northern Davincia » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:54 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Begone, royalist.


You were my brother, Davincia....I loved you!

I've been waiting for you, Salus. We meet again at last. The praxeology is now complete. When I left you I was but the reactionary, now I am the classical liberal.
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Postby Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:55 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
You were my brother, Davincia....I loved you!

I've been waiting for you, Salus. We meet again at last. The praxeology is now complete. When I left you I was but the reactionary, now I am the classical liberal.


Good news.
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Postby Torrocca » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:51 pm

Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:this thread is so cancerous, drop the chemo mcbombs


Oh, I think the monarchist thread takes the cake of being the most cancerous thread that I’ve ever seen.

Who in the fuck actually believes that Americans are going to willingly give up their Republic? You know who? The monarchist thread does. :rofl:


Those guys are hilarious lmao. "Oy, you! America's gonna become a Monarchy willingly even though the citizens' ancestors literally spilled Monarchist blood to form the Republic!"

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Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Oh, it stinks over there as well. But the monarchists want to disarm us, take our land away and even take our right to vote away.

Take our right to vote away isn't inherently bad as long as I'm the supreme emperor that rules for 15-20 years


Is this peak libertarianism? Or peak authoritarianism? Hmm
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 am

Torrocca wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:Take our right to vote away isn't inherently bad as long as I'm the supreme emperor that rules for 15-20 years


Is this peak libertarianism? Or peak authoritarianism? Hmm


Not peak authoritarianism when only political rights are suppressed ;')
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Postby Pilarcraft » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:00 am

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Is this peak libertarianism? Or peak authoritarianism? Hmm


Not peak authoritarianism when only political rights are suppressed ;')
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:23 am

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Is this peak libertarianism? Or peak authoritarianism? Hmm


Not peak authoritarianism when only political rights are suppressed ;')


So it's peak authoritarianism without any libertarianism. Good to know the snake is a facade :^)
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Postby Doosh » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:17 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Is this peak libertarianism? Or peak authoritarianism? Hmm


Not peak authoritarianism when only political rights are suppressed ;')


Basically nobody wants monarchism unless they get to be the monarch.

t. people that wanna cosplay their Civ game

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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
You were my brother, Davincia....I loved you!

I've been waiting for you, Salus. We meet again at last. The praxeology is now complete. When I left you I was but the reactionary, now I am the classical liberal.


You're only a master of memes, Davincia.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:24 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol wrote:
Oh, I think the monarchist thread takes the cake of being the most cancerous thread that I’ve ever seen.

Who in the fuck actually believes that Americans are going to willingly give up their Republic? You know who? The monarchist thread does. :rofl:


Those guys are hilarious lmao. "Oy, you! America's gonna become a Monarchy willingly even though the citizens' ancestors literally spilled Monarchist blood to form the Republic!"


Yeah, maybe one or two people say things like that.

Most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it traditionally existed.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:25 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Those guys are hilarious lmao. "Oy, you! America's gonna become a Monarchy willingly even though the citizens' ancestors literally spilled Monarchist blood to form the Republic!"


Yeah, maybe one or two people say things like that.

Most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it traditionally existed.


And most serious communists want a stateless society, but people tend to take the Stalinist loons more seriously than the "serious" monarchists :^)
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:28 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Yeah, maybe one or two people say things like that.

Most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it traditionally existed.


And most serious communists want a stateless society, but people tend to take the Stalinist loons more seriously than the "serious" monarchists :^)


Said the Anarchist.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:35 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
And most serious communists want a stateless society, but people tend to take the Stalinist loons more seriously than the "serious" monarchists :^)


Said the Anarchist.


Quoth the monarchist, "most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it traditionally existed."

Quoth several other monarchists (unsurprisingly, including yourself):

Second Empire of America wrote:I want Queen Elizabeth II to be Queen of America, and I was born here in the U.S. (I do live close to Canada though, and I would honestly prefer it if my state became a Canadian province.)


Salus Maior wrote:Considering the political situation in America, maybe bringing the Queen back would be a good idea.


Bienenhalde wrote:I am in the US and I am already loyal to the Canadian monarchy.


Ieskarios wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:I am in the US and I am already loyal to the Canadian monarchy.

God bless you, sir or madam.


All from monarchists on the monarchist thread. :^)
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:40 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Said the Anarchist.


Quoth the monarchist, "most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it traditionally existed."

Quoth several other monarchists (unsurprisingly, including yourself):

Second Empire of America wrote:I want Queen Elizabeth II to be Queen of America, and I was born here in the U.S. (I do live close to Canada though, and I would honestly prefer it if my state became a Canadian province.)


Salus Maior wrote:Considering the political situation in America, maybe bringing the Queen back would be a good idea.


Bienenhalde wrote:I am in the US and I am already loyal to the Canadian monarchy.


Ieskarios wrote:God bless you, sir or madam.


All from monarchists on the monarchist thread. :^)


My quote was satirical, and you cut out the link to a satirical article I was referencing. So good job with that.

And like I said, one or two people on that thread believe absurd things.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:44 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Quoth the monarchist, "most serious monarchists only want monarchy where it traditionally existed."

Quoth several other monarchists (unsurprisingly, including yourself):









All from monarchists on the monarchist thread. :^)


My quote was satirical, and you cut out the link to a satirical article I was referencing. So good job with that.


You didn't specify it was entirely satirical :^)

And like I said, one or two people on that thread believe absurd things.


It looks to me like the majority of monarchist posters are arguing for that stuff in the thread. Maybe it's you with the absurd beliefs in regards to monarchism.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:48 pm

Torrocca wrote:
You didn't specify it was entirely satirical :^)

And like I said, one or two people on that thread believe absurd things.


It looks to me like the majority of monarchist posters are arguing for that stuff in the thread. Maybe it's you with the absurd beliefs in regards to monarchism.


Salus Maior wrote:
Considering the political situation in America, maybe bringing the Queen back would be a good idea.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowit ... ted-states

This is satire, by the way.


It's pretty upfront. Good to know that you'll stoop to dishonesty to discredit those you disagree with.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:51 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
You didn't specify it was entirely satirical :^)



It looks to me like the majority of monarchist posters are arguing for that stuff in the thread. Maybe it's you with the absurd beliefs in regards to monarchism.


Salus Maior wrote:
Considering the political situation in America, maybe bringing the Queen back would be a good idea.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowit ... ted-states

This is satire, by the way.


It's pretty upfront. Good to know that you'll stoop to dishonesty to discredit those you disagree with.


Could say the same about nearly everyone that criticizes left-wing politics or has this astounding idea that republics are failed experiments that need to be turned into monarchies ASAP.

Also, it looks more like you were referring to the article than your actual suggestion. :^)

Also also, good to see you didn't address my other point.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:03 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Could say the same about nearly everyone that criticizes left-wing politics or has this astounding idea that republics are failed experiments that need to be turned into monarchies ASAP.

Also, it looks more like you were referring to the article than your actual suggestion. :^)

Also also, good to see you didn't address my other point.


Yes, every criticism of republicanism or the left wing is dishonest. There's no possible consideration for other forms of government or ideology in light of their flaws.

Are you this dense, really? I referenced a satirical article as a joke, it's plain as day and I wrote that it was satire. Why are we even talking about this?

What point? That you believe that monarchism or anything more authoritarian than a thimble is absurd or terrible? There's really no point in talking that point further considering your lackluster comprehension of history and that every post of yours on the subject is dripping with sarcasm to make up for its lack of substance.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:05 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Could say the same about nearly everyone that criticizes left-wing politics or has this astounding idea that republics are failed experiments that need to be turned into monarchies ASAP.

Also, it looks more like you were referring to the article than your actual suggestion. :^)

Also also, good to see you didn't address my other point.


Yes, every criticism of republicanism or the left wing is dishonest. There's no possible consideration for other forms of government or ideology in light of their flaws.


Never said every criticism was dishonest. Just the majority of them. :^)

Are you this dense, really? I referenced a satirical article as a joke, it's plain as day and I wrote that it was satire. Why are we even talking about this?


I am a block of lead.

What point? That you believe that monarchism or anything more authoritarian than a thimble is absurd or terrible? There's really no point in talking that point further considering your lackluster comprehension of history and that every post of yours on the subject is dripping with sarcasm to make up for its lack of substance.


I have a stellar comprehension of history and a finesse for sarcasm, thank you very much.

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Postby Puldania » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:05 pm

You Flaky anarchists forgot the option for politicians, dummies.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:11 pm

Torrocca wrote:
I have a stellar comprehension of history and a finesse for sarcasm, thank you very much.

Monarchists ruined my Catalan dream so I'll forever dislike them.


Monarchists that didn't restore the Spanish Monarchy until after Franco died?
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:13 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
I have a stellar comprehension of history and a finesse for sarcasm, thank you very much.

Monarchists ruined my Catalan dream so I'll forever dislike them.


Monarchists that didn't restore the Spanish Monarchy until after Franco died?


Monarchists that made up a major fraction of Franco's support, yes.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:14 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Monarchists that didn't restore the Spanish Monarchy until after Franco died?


Monarchists that made up a major fraction of Franco's support, yes.


Well, can't blame them for not wanting to associate with nun rapists.
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Postby Torrocca » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:16 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Monarchists that made up a major fraction of Franco's support, yes.


Well, can't blame them for not wanting to associate with nun rapists.


>TFW state-sponsored Nationalist investigators found literally no evidence to support that claim

Well, can't blame them for drinking the propaganda kool-aid :^)
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:22 pm

Doosh wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:
Not peak authoritarianism when only political rights are suppressed ;')


Basically nobody wants monarchism unless they get to be the monarch.

t. people that wanna cosplay their Civ game

I am the ultimately benevolent ruler though, tell me how many classical liberal dictators with a superior intellect have ever existed
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