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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:53 pm

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:54 pm

And the discussion of refugees bringing sharia is why this thread is useless - the Diversity/Multiculturalism thread is better suited for that.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:56 pm

Cekoviu wrote:And the discussion of refugees bringing sharia is why this thread is useless - the Diversity/Multiculturalism thread is better suited for that.

This is for all of European politics, the refugee debate is a significant part of current European politics
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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:03 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:I brought up Sharia in regards to the European refugees

European refugees don't really bring sharia.


The existence of this thread is fine and good, all threads offer thier own or similar takes on the issues with thier own twists, Muslim refugees bring Sharia to Europe, so its a related issue to this thread, the most important issue in Europe today is illegal migrant immigration, including asylum requests which are based on illegal immigration, the European nations need to end illegal immigration and limit asylum requests to political persons and activists who fear political persecution for their politics and actions if it wants to save Europe and the EU.

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:04 pm

NS Rome Italy wrote:
Geneviev wrote:European refugees don't really bring sharia.


The existence of this thread is fine and good, all threads offer thier own or similar takes on the issues with thier own twists, Muslim refugees bring Sharia to Europe, so its a related issue to this thread, the most important issue in Europe today is illegal migrant immigration, including asylum requests which are based on illegal immigration, the European nations need to end illegal immigration and limit asylum requests to political persons and activists who fear political persecution for their politics and actions if it wants to save Europe and the EU.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=444469

You know, quiet a few police are afraid of arresting Migrants who confirmed did something wrong in fear of being tagged as racist and islamaphobic
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:06 pm

Refugees are good, saving people is good.

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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:16 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Refugees are good, saving people is good.


And legal immigration is legal immigration, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, apply meet the requirements and wait your turn, like I did for many years, it is that easy and it really is that easy to understand.

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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:34 pm

NS Rome Italy wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Refugees are good, saving people is good.


And legal immigration is legal immigration, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, apply meet the requirements and wait your turn, like I did for many years, it is that easy and it really is that easy to understand.

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That's a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.
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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:37 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
NS Rome Italy wrote:
And legal immigration is legal immigration, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, apply meet the requirements and wait your turn, like I did for many years, it is that easy and it really is that easy to understand.

viewtopic.php?p=34142409#p34142409

That's a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.


The boat people entering Italy and Europe asking for asylum are illegal immigrant migrants.

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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:40 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
NS Rome Italy wrote:
And legal immigration is legal immigration, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, apply meet the requirements and wait your turn, like I did for many years, it is that easy and it really is that easy to understand.

viewtopic.php?p=34142409#p34142409

That’s a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.

Now that you have made a claim, the burden of reliable proof is on you
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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:41 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That’s a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.

Now that you have made a claim, the burden of reliable proof is on you


viewtopic.php?p=34142409#p34142409[/quote]
That's a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.[/quote]

The boat people entering Italy and Europe asking for asylum are illegal immigrant migrants.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Mon Jun 04, 2018 7:58 pm

NS Rome Italy wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Refugees are good, saving people is good.


And legal immigration is legal immigration, and illegal immigration is illegal immigration and should not be tolerated, apply meet the requirements and wait your turn, like I did for many years, it is that easy and it really is that easy to understand.

viewtopic.php?p=34142409#p34142409


Hmm, such a tough decision, Paper work and red tape or saving human lives?

The moment you said "leftist fake news media" is the moment I just stopped reading.

NS Rome Italy wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That's a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.


The boat people entering Italy and Europe asking for asylum are illegal immigrant migrants.

lol, i'm having lol attack, :rofl: anyone please have mercy and call 911



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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:00 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:And the discussion of refugees bringing sharia is why this thread is useless - the Diversity/Multiculturalism thread is better suited for that.

This is for all of European politics, the refugee debate is a significant part of current European politics


Ísland gets like what, 5 refugees per year?
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:07 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:This is for all of European politics, the refugee debate is a significant part of current European politics


Ísland gets like what, 5 refugees per year?

Yes, it barely gets any at all, this does not however, apply to mainland Europe
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:21 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That’s a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.

Now that you have made a claim, the burden of reliable proof is on you

First of all, let's get this out of the way -- it is impossible to enter a country illegally if you have a legitimate claim to persecution, at least in UN countries (so the overwhelming majority of internationally recognized states). In the US, there were ~11 million illegal immigrants as of 2016, and about 500,000 pending asylum seekers or current refugees. Mexicans appear to have a consistently low number of asylum requests granted, and make up 5.6 million illegal immigrants, so the possible pool of refugee illegal immigrants drops to about 5.58 million, adjusted for the average number of Mexican refugees admitted from 2014-2016.

I'm going to bed soon, so I'm leaving this here and will continue it tomorrow.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:22 pm

NS Rome Italy wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:That's a red herring: most refugees are legal immigrants.


The boat people entering Italy and Europe asking for asylum are illegal immigrant migrants.

lol, i'm having lol attack, :rofl: anyone please have mercy and call 911

They are not, per the 1951 Refugee Convention.
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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:02 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
NS Rome Italy wrote:
The boat people entering Italy and Europe asking for asylum are illegal immigrant migrants.

lol, i'm having lol attack, :rofl: anyone please have mercy and call 911

They are not, per the 1951 Refugee Convention.


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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:15 pm

NS Rome Italy wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:They are not, per the 1951 Refugee Convention.

lol, The heck with the 1951 Refugee Convention, this is 2018, every nation has a right to decide who and how many migrants immigrate legally to their nation per year, and the requirements to do so, and do so, even Mexico deports illegal immigrants.


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Postby Lowell Leber » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:15 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Well, I have to mention you voiced support for Shariah law for Muslims the the thread


Yes, for Muslims. Exactly. Just as any religion follows its law Muslims should follow sharia.

You realize that Sharia Law encompasses things that should only be dictated by governmental law?
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:31 pm

Lowell Leber wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Yes, for Muslims. Exactly. Just as any religion follows its law Muslims should follow sharia.

You realize that Sharia Law encompasses things that should only be dictated by governmental law?

Yes. And only Muslims should follow it.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:16 pm

Ah, finally, a thread where we can finally, and comprehensively discuss the important things. Like Guy Verhofstadt's hair, or Varoufakis's latest hit article, how bizarrely well Portugal seems to be doing or how many f***s Juncker may still have.

Meanwhile, for now the contribution I have is that the US ambassador to Germany thinks he can go around telling Germany how they should run their country. Again. This time by openly advocating for Germans to support the right wing, saying that 'leftist' policies have failed the country.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44352779



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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:20 pm

Chan Island wrote:Ah, finally, a thread where we can finally, and comprehensively discuss the important things. Like Guy Verhofstadt's hair, or Varoufakis's latest hit article, how bizarrely well Portugal seems to be doing or how many f***s Juncker may still have.

Meanwhile, for now the contribution I have is that the US ambassador to Germany thinks he can go around telling Germany how they should run their country. Again. This time by openly advocating for Germans to support the right wing, saying that 'leftist' policies have failed the country.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44352779



Ew, Daily Mail.


'leftist' policies have failed the country."

Which I agree with, lol.

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