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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:05 pm

Title explains most. Discuss and debate anything related to European politics here, this includes politics involving nations in Europe, politics between Europe and non Europe nations, and EU discussion. The current European political climate is very tense, with conservatives and liberals at each other’s throats, much like in the US. There is a huge debate about migrants from the Middle East and North Africa, from war tor countries, and their reception into Europe.

Feel free to discuss/debate any of these and other topics concerning European Politics here.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:08 pm

To respond to your previous statement in a more appropriate thread:

No, refugees aren't bad at all. And Germany is doing just fine.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:12 pm

Geneviev wrote:To respond to your previous statement in a more appropriate thread:

No, refugees aren't bad at all. And Germany is doing just fine.

Well, I have to mention you voiced support for Shariah law for Muslims the the thread

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Aureumterra wrote:Refugees are flocking in and supporting Shariah Law movements in many nations, like France, Sweden, Germany, and UK. Do you agree with Shariah law?

For Muslims, yes. As long as I have someone to play football with, I don’t care where they're from.
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Postby Tobleste » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:12 pm

I don't know if it's a liberal/conservative thing. It's more of a clear open/closed divide without the more traditional divides over government size, abortion, LGBT rights etc. That normally divides left and right wing parties. That could be down to the US 2 party system funnelling the open/closed debate into each party mean in it's added to traditional left and right wing contests. That might be why Republicans in the US seem similar to eastern European autocrats like Orban and populists like Marine Le Pen or AfD despite having such different economic policies.

This is good news on the security front: https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanue ... tary-plan/
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:15 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Geneviev wrote:To respond to your previous statement in a more appropriate thread:

No, refugees aren't bad at all. And Germany is doing just fine.

Well, I have to mention you voiced support for Shariah law for Muslims the the thread

Geneviev wrote:For Muslims, yes. As long as I have someone to play football with, I don’t care where they're from.

Yes, for Muslims. Exactly. Just as any religion follows its law Muslims should follow sharia.
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Postby The South Falls » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:15 pm

Giuseppe Conte of the FSM was sworn in today... recognization of the general shift of European politics to populism.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:16 pm

There is already a UK Politics Thread and basically all of the subjects here aside from that could be discussed elsewhere, so I don't really see the point of this thread.

I also find it rather strange that OP claims to be from Iceland, yet misspells the native name with a letter that isn't even in the Icelandic alphabet. What's up with that?
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:20 pm

Cekoviu wrote:There is already a UK Politics Thread and basically all of the subjects here aside from that could be discussed elsewhere, so I don't really see the point of this thread.

I also find it rather strange that OP claims to be from Iceland, yet misspells the native name with a letter that isn't even in the Icelandic alphabet. What's up with that?

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Postby Baltiata » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:21 pm

Cekoviu wrote:There is already a UK Politics Thread and basically all of the subjects here aside from that could be discussed elsewhere, so I don't really see the point of this thread.

I also find it rather strange that OP claims to be from Iceland, yet misspells the native name with a letter that isn't even in the Icelandic alphabet. What's up with that?

He spelled Ísland correctly
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Postby Baltiata » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:23 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Well, I have to mention you voiced support for Shariah law for Muslims the the thread


Yes, for Muslims. Exactly.

So you support a law system that oppresses and devalues women, to the point where adult males are allowed to marry underage females?
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Postby NS Rome Italy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:23 pm

Legal immigration is legal immigration, illegal immigration is illegal immigration, and should not be tolerated it is that easy, and it really is that easy to understand, apply meet the requirements and wait your turn, like I did for many years. Asylum requests should be strictly limited to political and activist persons who fear political persecution for their political beliefs and actions.

Contrary to popular belief spread by the leftist fake news media, Prime Minister Viktor Orbán of Hungary is not anti European, he is Pro Hungary and Pro European.

If the EU wants to save Europe and itself from itself it needs to end its open borders migrant policies and limit Asylums to political and activist persons who fear political persecution for their political beliefs and actions.

Of all persons for me to agree with, lol, but he seems to be right, EU will 'dig its own grave' if it tries to punish Italy, warns George Soros https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... rge-soros/

Based on these interesting news stories worth reading even if you are pro or con, I support these statements:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/96 ... n-populism

"ITALY’S new eurosceptic deputy prime minister Matteo Salvini revealed his intention to work together with anti-immigration leader Viktor Orban to “change EU rules” as fears among europhile Italy may close his borders grow."

Mr Salvini, who is also Home minister, added: “We are trying to build a network with other countries of tranquility and safety, of peace and war on terrorism.”

Italy's new hardline interior minister Matteo Salvini said on Sunday that "common sense" was needed to stop the country from being "Europe's refugee camp" as he visited a migrant centre in the south.

The rescue operation, which was coordinated by the Italian coast guard, happened just hours after Salvini took his oath of office, and said he would ask his ministry's experts "how to reduce the number of arriving migrants and increase the number of expulsions".

I think it's better to spend money in the countries of origin, and now if there are NGOs that want to work for free, that's fine," Salvini said.

Of all persons for me to agree with, lol, but he seems to be right, EU will 'dig its own grave' if it tries to punish Italy, warns George Soros https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... rge-soros/

I have always posted in one way or another, If the EU wants to save Europe and itself from itself, it has to stop its open borders migrant policies, and asylum requests should be strictly limited to political persons who fear persecution of political views.

A controversial agreement between Italy's former centre-left government and authorities and militias in Libya has triggered a decline in overall arrivals of some 75 percent since the summer of 2017. But so far this year Italian authorities have still registered more than 13,500 arrivals.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... rge-soros/

https://www.thelocal.it/20180604/salvin ... ation-line
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:24 pm

Baltiata wrote:
Geneviev wrote:Yes, for Muslims. Exactly.

So you support a law system that oppresses and devalues women, to the point where adult males are allowed to marry underage females?

I support Sharia. Not that.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:24 pm

Cekoviu wrote:There is already a UK Politics Thread and basically all of the subjects here aside from that could be discussed elsewhere, so I don't really see the point of this thread.

I also find it rather strange that OP claims to be from Iceland, yet misspells the native name with a letter that isn't even in the Icelandic alphabet. What's up with that?

What did I misspell?
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:24 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Baltiata wrote:So you support a law system that oppresses and devalues women, to the point where adult males are allowed to marry underage females?

I support Sharia. Not that.

That’s part of Shariah law
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:26 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Geneviev wrote:I support Sharia. Not that.

That’s part of Shariah law

Perhaps [url]http://muslima.globalfundforwomen.org/content/how-islam-confirms-women’s-rights[/url] can help.
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:28 pm

Baltiata wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:There is already a UK Politics Thread and basically all of the subjects here aside from that could be discussed elsewhere, so I don't really see the point of this thread.

I also find it rather strange that OP claims to be from Iceland, yet misspells the native name with a letter that isn't even in the Icelandic alphabet. What's up with that?

He spelled Ísland correctly

It was Iśland before he changed it.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:29 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Baltiata wrote:He spelled Ísland correctly

It was Iśland before he changed it.

No, it’s Ísland

also, how’s this related to European politics?
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:32 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It was Iśland before he changed it.

No, it’s Ísland

Exactly. And it was spelled wrong until just now, when you changed it.
also, how’s this related to European politics?

It was just a weird observation, not meant to be a large chain.
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Postby Baltiata » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:32 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Baltiata wrote:He spelled Ísland correctly

It was Iśland before he changed it.

As a resident of Ísland and an OOC friend of his, I can confirm that he has the correct spelling

also, to answer your earlier question, European politics is much more than just British politics

Another question, does this thread count for Israel? Isreal considers itself culturally part of Europe (Thats why it competes in Eurovision)
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:33 pm

Baltiata wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It was Iśland before he changed it.

As a resident of Ísland and an OOC friend of his, I can confirm that he has the correct spelling

also, to answer your earlier question, European politics is much more than just British politics

Another question, does this thread count for Israel? Isreal considers itself culturally part of Europe (Thats why it competes in Eurovision)

No, because:

1. Israel is not geographically European

2. There is a whole Israel-Palestine Megathread

3. I fear if I let that happen, that would be the only topic discussed here
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Postby Cekoviu » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:33 pm

Baltiata wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:It was Iśland before he changed it.

As a resident of Ísland and an OOC friend of his, I can confirm that he has the correct spelling

also, to answer your earlier question, European politics is much more than just British politics

Another question, does this thread count for Israel? Isreal considers itself culturally part of Europe (Thats why it competes in Eurovision)

Yes, but the realm of European politics is well-covered by other threads in this forum, like I said.
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:35 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Baltiata wrote:As a resident of Ísland and an OOC friend of his, I can confirm that he has the correct spelling

also, to answer your earlier question, European politics is much more than just British politics

Another question, does this thread count for Israel? Isreal considers itself culturally part of Europe (Thats why it competes in Eurovision)

No, because:

1. Israel is not geographically European

2. There is a whole Israel-Palestine Megathread

3. I fear if I let that happen, that would be the only topic discussed here

But you brought up Sharia here? It's also not European and there's an Islamic thread.

Israel does consider itself European.
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Postby Trumptonium1 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:37 pm

Cekoviu wrote:There is already a UK Politics Thread and basically all of the subjects here aside from that could be discussed elsewhere, so I don't really see the point of this thread.

I also find it rather strange that OP claims to be from Iceland, yet misspells the native name with a letter that isn't even in the Icelandic alphabet. What's up with that?


Why is there an American and a UK Politics thread if there can't be a European one for the same purpose?

It's the 2nd most common region of NS users.

There's many things about European politics not worth creating a thread for but a legitimate discussion point. 3 of the current threads on the first page are about EU/European politics.
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Postby Aureumterra » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:51 pm

Geneviev wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:No, because:

1. Israel is not geographically European

2. There is a whole Israel-Palestine Megathread

3. I fear if I let that happen, that would be the only topic discussed here

But you brought up Sharia here? It's also not European and there's an Islamic thread.

Israel does consider itself European.

I brought up Sharia in regards to the European refugees
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Postby Geneviev » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:52 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Geneviev wrote:But you brought up Sharia here? It's also not European and there's an Islamic thread.

Israel does consider itself European.

I brought up Sharia in regards to the European refugees

European refugees don't really bring sharia.
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