Ranking Books - Voting VS Donating

[Xerographica]

Recommend you add it to your OP so people know without having to read the entire first page.

I'm not sure why I'd add it to the OP. Also, it doesn't technically end the polling. It's just for the purpose of comparing the preliminary results to my prediction.

[Galloism]

Recommend you add it to your OP so people know without having to read the entire first page.

I'm not sure why I'd add it to the OP. Also, it doesn't technically end the polling. It's just for the purpose of comparing the preliminary results to my prediction.

So that it's stated outright and forthrightly the duration of the "experiment" to anyone who comes. It's a very very basic procedure that you specify the duration of your experiment prior to engaging in it, to ensure the fairness of the experiment and the disclosure elements to all participants.

It's a basic tenet of this thing we call "science".

[Senkaku]

I'm not sure why I'd add it to the OP. Also, it doesn't technically end the polling. It's just for the purpose of comparing the preliminary results to my prediction.

So that it's stated outright and forthrightly the duration of the "experiment" to anyone who comes. It's a very very basic procedure that you specify the duration of your experiment prior to engaging in it, to ensure the fairness of the experiment and the disclosure elements to all participants.

It's a basic tenet of this thing we call "science".

Xero has shown xero (hahah) interest in any other basic tenets of science so idk why he'd start now

[Xerographica]

>My interpretation of the results is that many people are happy to share worthless opinions. It’s quite clear that a donating poll is highly effective at separating the wheat from the chaff.
what an unbiased view of experimental data

Here's what makes these experiments funny: half the data provided will only be so as to spite Xero, while his interpretation will always be "voting by paying is better".

Voting to spite me is one thing. Donating to spite me is another thing.

[Kubra]

>My interpretation of the results is that many people are happy to share worthless opinions. It’s quite clear that a donating poll is highly effective at separating the wheat from the chaff.
what an unbiased view of experimental data

Here's what makes these experiments funny: half the data provided will only be so as to spite Xero, while his interpretation will always be "voting by paying is better".

Voting to spite me is one thing. Donating to spite me is another thing.

Nice try Max Barry, I know your deep cover.
Are you the true social experiment?

[Xerographica]

I'm not sure why I'd add it to the OP. Also, it doesn't technically end the polling. It's just for the purpose of comparing the preliminary results to my prediction.

So that it's stated outright and forthrightly the duration of the "experiment" to anyone who comes. It's a very very basic procedure that you specify the duration of your experiment prior to engaging in it, to ensure the fairness of the experiment and the disclosure elements to all participants.

It's a basic tenet of this thing we call "science".

Are you expecting it to somehow influence people's behavior? If so, then in what way?

[Kubra]

So that it's stated outright and forthrightly the duration of the "experiment" to anyone who comes. It's a very very basic procedure that you specify the duration of your experiment prior to engaging in it, to ensure the fairness of the experiment and the disclosure elements to all participants.

It's a basic tenet of this thing we call "science".

Are you expecting it to somehow influence people's behavior? If so, then in what way?

Well it might influence the experimenters behaviour, insofar as the collection of data can be limited to a shorter period of time, therefore a shorter sample, and results that could be quite different from a longer study with a greater sample size. In other words, nutritional science.

[Xerographica]

Voting to spite me is one thing. Donating to spite me is another thing.

Nice try Max Barry, I know your deep cover.
Are you the true social experiment?

I think that if I was really Max Barry I'd be a lot more... persuasive. Right? I'm embarrassed to admit that I still haven't read any of his books. Have you read any of them? If so, would you recommend them?

[The Two Jerseys]

So that it's stated outright and forthrightly the duration of the "experiment" to anyone who comes. It's a very very basic procedure that you specify the duration of your experiment prior to engaging in it, to ensure the fairness of the experiment and the disclosure elements to all participants.

It's a basic tenet of this thing we call "science".

Are you expecting it to somehow influence people's behavior? If so, then in what way?

Gallo, you might as well be talking to the wall.

You might actually get through to the wall...

[Kubra]

Oh, and we know why Xero thinks the donation voting was so great compared to "worthless opinions": he was the only donator, and gave the votes-by-donation to himself.

[Xerographica]

Oh, and we know why Xero thinks the donation voting was so great compared to "worthless opinions": he was the only donator, and gave the votes-by-donation to himself.

I gave $2 to myself and $1 to IM.

[Kubra]

Oh, and we know why Xero thinks the donation voting was so great compared to "worthless opinions": he was the only donator, and gave the votes-by-donation to himself.

I gave $2 to myself and $1 to IM.

Oh yes, one to IM. that gives you 2/3rds of the vote, a clear majority.

[Infected Mushroom]

I was going to vote for the Bible. Then this scene came to mind...

The imagery of Uncle Vernon sitting in a car, craning his head back, his face slightly purple... and saying

"There's NO SUCH THING AS... MAGIK!"

...

1 vote to Harry Potter.

[Infected Mushroom]

I cannot believe The Cat In The Hat is actually a realistic contender in this race 0_0

It might win too! (gasp)

[Galloism]

So that it's stated outright and forthrightly the duration of the "experiment" to anyone who comes. It's a very very basic procedure that you specify the duration of your experiment prior to engaging in it, to ensure the fairness of the experiment and the disclosure elements to all participants.

It's a basic tenet of this thing we call "science".

Xero has shown xero (hahah) interest in any other basic tenets of science so idk why he'd start now

Hope springs eternal.

[Bombadil]

I cannot believe The Cat In The Hat is actually a realistic contender in this race 0_0

It might win too! (gasp)

The Cat in the Hat is a masterpiece of Cold War allegory up there with the finest of Shakespeare's verbal prose with a similar political commentary.

[Infected Mushroom]

I cannot believe The Cat In The Hat is actually a realistic contender in this race 0_0

It might win too! (gasp)

The Cat in the Hat is a masterpiece of Cold War allegory up there with the finest of Shakespeare's verbal prose with a similar political commentary.

It is?

[Farnhamia]

Xero has shown xero (hahah) interest in any other basic tenets of science so idk why he'd start now

Hope springs eternal.

I love that story.

[Bombadil]

The Cat in the Hat is a masterpiece of Cold War allegory up there with the finest of Shakespeare's verbal prose with a similar political commentary.

It is?

The Cat in the Hat was a Cold War invention. His value as an analyst of the psychology of his time, the late nineteen-fifties, is readily appreciated: transgression and hypocrisy are the principal themes of his little story. But he also stands in an intimate and paradoxical relation to national-security policy. He was both its creature and its nemesis—the unraveller of the very culture that produced him and that made him a star. This is less surprising than it may seem. He was, after all, a cat.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002 ... cat-people

Holy fuck.. it is!

[The Two Jerseys]

Ladies and gentlemen, I will now predict the results of this so-called "experiment" as they will stand at 2314 GMT on 18 June 2018:

Xero will be the only one to rank by spending. Again.

After thoroughly compiling all the "scientific" data (i.e., whenever Xero logs in next and finds that nobody else has spent any money on this), this spending ranking will be declared the correct ranking, because votes are cheap and therefore don't count because we don't "care" enough to spend money on something completely frivolous.

[Infected Mushroom]

It is?

The Cat in the Hat was a Cold War invention. His value as an analyst of the psychology of his time, the late nineteen-fifties, is readily appreciated: transgression and hypocrisy are the principal themes of his little story. But he also stands in an intimate and paradoxical relation to national-security policy. He was both its creature and its nemesis—the unraveller of the very culture that produced him and that made him a star. This is less surprising than it may seem. He was, after all, a cat.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002 ... cat-people

Holy fuck.. it is!

I'm sorry but I feel this is massively stretching it. It seems like some people read too much into what is honestly, just a childish story about a walking cat wearing a hat playing with kids.

Nothing in this article sounds like its naturally connected to the story at all (and to make matters worse... if you read it closely, many parts of it aren't actually even saying anything).

This is the equivalent of taking a story from an 8th grader, realising it was written in X period, and then making some convoluted (but really empty) asserted connections with modern art overtones really stretching to connect the simple story to X period themes/realities.

I have no idea how anyone goes from... "A story where the Mom leaves... a talking cat comes to play with kids, they play a series of games" to...

ITS ABOUT THE COLD WAR

This is some serious Emperor's New Clothes material.

[Galloism]

It is?

The Cat in the Hat was a Cold War invention. His value as an analyst of the psychology of his time, the late nineteen-fifties, is readily appreciated: transgression and hypocrisy are the principal themes of his little story. But he also stands in an intimate and paradoxical relation to national-security policy. He was both its creature and its nemesis—the unraveller of the very culture that produced him and that made him a star. This is less surprising than it may seem. He was, after all, a cat.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002 ... cat-people

Holy fuck.. it is!

That’s so cool.

[The Two Jerseys]

I cannot believe The Cat In The Hat is actually a realistic contender in this race 0_0

It might win too! (gasp)

The Cat in the Hat is a masterpiece of Cold War allegory up there with the finest of Shakespeare's verbal prose with a similar political commentary.

I'm not seeing it.

The Butter Battle Book, on the other hand... Those goddamn heathen Zooks and their butter-side down toast!

[Bombadil]

The Cat in the Hat was a Cold War invention. His value as an analyst of the psychology of his time, the late nineteen-fifties, is readily appreciated: transgression and hypocrisy are the principal themes of his little story. But he also stands in an intimate and paradoxical relation to national-security policy. He was both its creature and its nemesis—the unraveller of the very culture that produced him and that made him a star. This is less surprising than it may seem. He was, after all, a cat.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002 ... cat-people

Holy fuck.. it is!

I'm sorry but I feel this is massively stretching it. It seems like some people read too much into what is honestly, just a childish story about a walking cat wearing a hat playing with kids.

Nothing in this article sounds like its naturally connected to the story at all (and to make matters worse... if you read it closely, many parts of it aren't actually even saying anything).

This is the equivalent of taking a story from an 8th grader, realising it was written in X period, and then making some convoluted (but really empty) asserted connections with modern art overtones really stretching to connect the simple story to X period themes/realities.

I have no idea how anyone goes from... "A story where the Mom leaves... a talking cat comes to play with kids, they play a series of games" to...

ITS ABOUT THE COLD WAR

This is some serious Emperor's New Clothes material.

Oh yeah.. what are the pink spots.. the spread of pinkos or commies.. and those who are freaked out by their spread are the American public.. and how is it solved.. with the Voom.. rhymes with Boom!, clearly the nuclear bomb.

Case closed.

EDIT: actually that might be The Cat in the Hat Comes Back.. still.. given they're written in the 50's it's not hard to believe a degree of psychological mindset doesn't infuse any form of art or literature from those days.

Ready for some heavy hitting? Louis Menand calls the Cat "a Cold War invention" and an "analyst of the psychology of his time" (source). It's not a tough argument to make: once you think about it, Seuss does seem to be using fears of Communist infiltration as fodder for this tale.

Philip Nel is on the same page. He convincingly argues that Dr. Seuss, who had many Hollywood connections, sympathized with members of the film industry who were being blacklisted and even imprisoned because of alleged Communist affiliations (source, 65).

With that in mind, think of the caged up (and, ahem, bright red) Things and how chaos ensues when they're released. If we can read the Things as stand-ins for the imprisoned movie folk, Seuss might be arguing that it's silly to imagine movie makers as threats to national security. How much trouble can those Things really cause?

But wait a second. Seuss worked on propaganda films when he was in the Army during World War II. That means he knew that film was and is a powerful medium certainly capable of impacting national security.

So what was he driving at?

[Xerographica]

It is?

The Cat in the Hat was a Cold War invention. His value as an analyst of the psychology of his time, the late nineteen-fifties, is readily appreciated: transgression and hypocrisy are the principal themes of his little story. But he also stands in an intimate and paradoxical relation to national-security policy. He was both its creature and its nemesis—the unraveller of the very culture that produced him and that made him a star. This is less surprising than it may seem. He was, after all, a cat.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002 ... cat-people

Holy fuck.. it is!

The ending seems relevant...

But that was then, a long time gone. Now we have something different: we have “anything goes” without the spirit. “Transgression,” “subversion,” “deconstruction” are praise words bestowed as solemnly as “structure” and “order” once were, little gold stars awarded to rappers and television comics. Cakes on rakes are everywhere. A million cats cavort frantically for our attention. Even the fish has been co-opted (though what choice did he have?). “Enjoy!” cries the fish. “Consume! Everything will be fine when your mother gets home.” But the fish is whistling into the wind. The mother has left, and she’s never coming back. It’s just us and that goddam cat.