SCOTUS Sides With Baker in LGBT Wedding Cake Case

[West Leas Oros]

It does 2d12 if your character is black.

Oh snap!

Don’t worry. If you pass a fortitude save, you can take half damage.

[Thermodolia]

You're several hundred years behind the rest of the US jurisprudentially and several dozen pages behind this thread.

I'm not. And Again, If one baker won't bake a damn cake for you, find another baker. a PRIVATE Business has the right to decline anyone from services because it's a private business. However, no one is forcing you to shop at one place. It's called a Free, Competitive market. Where One Baker won't serve you for one reason there is another that will. Forcing them won't help matters.

That’s not how the law works bud. Also fuck the free market

[Russoslava]

I'm not. And Again, If one baker won't bake a damn cake for you, find another baker. a PRIVATE Business has the right to decline anyone from services because it's a private business. However, no one is forcing you to shop at one place. It's called a Free, Competitive market. Where One Baker won't serve you for one reason there is another that will. Forcing them won't help matters.

That’s not how the law works bud. Also fuck the free market

That's the law where I live and how it should be everywhere else. Also, the same free market that gave you the Internet you're using to say "Fuck Free Market"? Or the same free market that gave you that Computer or Phone you're using to post this on? Wow, you smart.

[Mallorea and Riva]

That’s not how the law works bud. Also fuck the free market

That's the law where I live and how it should be everywhere else. Also, the same free market that gave you the Internet you're using to say "Fuck Free Market"? Or the same free market that gave you that Computer or Phone you're using to post this on? Wow, you smart.

Like I said, you're several hundred years behind the US jurisprudentially, and several dozen pages behind this thread. The decision from SCOTUS was not based on the idea that the baker has a fundamental right to deny service to anyone. It was based around the way the state's proceedings failed to offer a neutral application of the law.

[Internationalist Bastard]

That’s not how the law works bud. Also fuck the free market

That's the law where I live and how it should be everywhere else. Also, the same free market that gave you the Internet you're using to say "Fuck Free Market"? Or the same free market that gave you that Computer or Phone you're using to post this on? Wow, you smart.

Cuz unrestrained capitalism never goes wrong

[The New California Republic]

You're several hundred years behind the rest of the US jurisprudentially and several dozen pages behind this thread.

I'm not. a PRIVATE Business has the right to decline anyone from services because it's a private business.

You most definitely are. You are several hundred years behind. It is illegal to refuse service on the basis of race in the United States.

[Thermodolia]

That’s not how the law works bud. Also fuck the free market

That's the law where I live and how it should be everywhere else. Also, the same free market that gave you the Internet you're using to say "Fuck Free Market"? Or the same free market that gave you that Computer or Phone you're using to post this on? Wow, you smart.

The law where you live isn’t the law everywhere and shouldn’t be. Also the free market didn’t give us the internet, that was the US DOD. Computers and phones are also not because of the free market fairy.

The free market isn’t the end all be all. It’s kinda stupid to say that without the free market nothing would exist, because it obviously doesn’t work that way.

Also before you try I’m not a communist.

[Russoslava]

That's the law where I live and how it should be everywhere else. Also, the same free market that gave you the Internet you're using to say "Fuck Free Market"? Or the same free market that gave you that Computer or Phone you're using to post this on? Wow, you smart.

Like I said, you're several hundred years behind the US jurisprudentially, and several dozen pages behind this thread. The decision from SCOTUS was not based on the idea that the baker has a fundamental right to deny service to anyone. It was based around the way the state's proceedings failed to offer a neutral application of the law.

In the State of Maine (If I remember Correctly) A Private Business has the right to Deny anyone Service base on Religious Reason because of the "PRESERVATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT" under PERSON which means an individual, corporate body or religious organization.

[Thermodolia]

I'm not. a PRIVATE Business has the right to decline anyone from services because it's a private business.

You most definitely are. You are several hundred years behind. It is illegal to refuse service on the basis of race in the United States.

What is the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

[Vassenor]

Like I said, you're several hundred years behind the US jurisprudentially, and several dozen pages behind this thread. The decision from SCOTUS was not based on the idea that the baker has a fundamental right to deny service to anyone. It was based around the way the state's proceedings failed to offer a neutral application of the law.

In the State of Maine (If I remember Correctly) A Private Business has the right to Deny anyone Service base on Religious Reason because of the "PRESERVATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT" under PERSON which means an individual, corporate body or religious organization.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

[Ethel mermania]

You most definitely are. You are several hundred years behind. It is illegal to refuse service on the basis of race in the United States.

What is the Civil Rights Act of 1961?

Psst. 64.

[The New California Republic]

Also before you try I’m not a communist.

*Squints. Adjusts nonexistent glasses*

Hmm...

What is the Civil Rights Act of 1961?

1964. A non-communist would have got that correct...

[Thermodolia]

What is the Civil Rights Act of 1961?

Psst. 64.

Thanks I knew it was one of the 60’s but couldn’t remember

[Thermodolia]

Also before you try I’m not a communist.

*Squints. Adjusts nonexistent glasses*

Hmm...

What is the Civil Rights Act of 1961?

1964. A non-communist would have got that correct...

You can’t tell me what to do, Karl Marx!!

[Ethel mermania]

In the State of Maine (If I remember Correctly) A Private Business has the right to Deny anyone Service base on Religious Reason because of the "PRESERVATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT" under PERSON which means an individual, corporate body or religious organization.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

That doesn't establish a religion, but I don't think that law as described will stand up to scrutiny either.

[The New California Republic]

Like I said, you're several hundred years behind the US jurisprudentially, and several dozen pages behind this thread. The decision from SCOTUS was not based on the idea that the baker has a fundamental right to deny service to anyone. It was based around the way the state's proceedings failed to offer a neutral application of the law.

In the State of Maine (If I remember Correctly) A Private Business has the right to Deny anyone Service base on Religious Reason because of the "PRESERVATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT" under PERSON which means an individual, corporate body or religious organization.

Nonsense. That doesn't magically override the prohibition on refusing service to people on the basis of race. If you think that it does, then you are sorely mistaken...

[Ethel mermania]

Psst. 64.

Thanks I knew it was one of the 60’s but couldn’t remember

Or as johnson called it. "The nigger bill"

[Russoslava]

That's the law where I live and how it should be everywhere else. Also, the same free market that gave you the Internet you're using to say "Fuck Free Market"? Or the same free market that gave you that Computer or Phone you're using to post this on? Wow, you smart.

The law where you live isn’t the law everywhere and shouldn’t be. Also the free market didn’t give us the internet, that was the US DOD. Computers and phones are also not because of the free market fairy.

The free market isn’t the end all be all. It’s kinda stupid to say that without the free market nothing would exist, because it obviously doesn’t work that way.

Also before you try I’m not a communist.

No, the Free Market doesn't and DIdn't give us everything but a majority of the Luxuries we have access today is thanks to a Free and Private Market. Look at the Internet system for instance. Instead of getting a slow, clunky and overprice access that you would get from the Government You now have fast, Reliable and Fair Priced Access at your fingertips. Thanks to free markets You don't have to be a billionaire to buy a computer because in a Competitive Free market people have made Computer, Smaller, Cheaper and more accessible because of they can make more money that way. I as an Inventor can make a product that changes that quality of lives for others and makes money from it because of how our Economy is.

[Russoslava]

In the State of Maine (If I remember Correctly) A Private Business has the right to Deny anyone Service base on Religious Reason because of the "PRESERVATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT" under PERSON which means an individual, corporate body or religious organization.

Nonsense. That doesn't magically override the prohibition on refusing service to people on the basis of race. If you think that it does, then you are sorely mistaken...

No, not race. But it allows a Christian Baker to refuse to make a Cake for a Same-Sex Couple. Which is what I thought this thread was about.

[West Leas Oros]

You're several hundred years behind the rest of the US jurisprudentially and several dozen pages behind this thread.

I'm not. And Again, If one baker won't bake a damn cake for you, find another baker. a PRIVATE Business has the right to decline anyone from services because it's a private business. However, no one is forcing you to shop at one place. It's called a Free, Competitive market. Where One Baker won't serve you for one reason there is another that will. Forcing them won't help matters.

All the more reasons to oppose capitalism then.

[The New California Republic]

Thanks I knew it was one of the 60’s but couldn’t remember

Or as johnson called it. "The nigger bill"

Oh Lyndon! You and your many racisms!

[Russoslava]

In the State of Maine (If I remember Correctly) A Private Business has the right to Deny anyone Service base on Religious Reason because of the "PRESERVATION OF RELIGIOUS FREEDOM ACT" under PERSON which means an individual, corporate body or religious organization.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

Congress didn't pass it. The Maine State Legislature did.

[Telconi]

Oh snap!

Don’t worry. If you pass a fortitude save, you can take half damage.

Also, the secret to defeating them, if you have a white character and and black character kiss, the Wizard is stunned for ten turns whIle his brain tries to wrap itself around two people of different races loving each other more than his momma loved him.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Nonsense. That doesn't magically override the prohibition on refusing service to people on the basis of race. If you think that it does, then you are sorely mistaken...

No, not race. But it allows a Christian Baker to refuse to make a Cake for a Same-Sex Couple. Which is what I thought this thread was about.

You asserted that no private actor could be compelled to serve ANYONE. You've provided evidence that Maine (along with other states) have created carve outs for religious justifications. So you've totally undermined your own position by showing that what you advocate for is the exception rather than the rule.

This thread is about that topic, but there is so far no decision on whether the First Amendment's Free Exercise or Free Speech clauses allow for the Baker to refuse to sell. The law failed in application here due to its lack of neutral application.

[Russoslava]

I'm not. And Again, If one baker won't bake a damn cake for you, find another baker. a PRIVATE Business has the right to decline anyone from services because it's a private business. However, no one is forcing you to shop at one place. It's called a Free, Competitive market. Where One Baker won't serve you for one reason there is another that will. Forcing them won't help matters.

All the more reasons to oppose capitalism then.

Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best system. Under Capitalism, Pure Capitalism, Not Crony Capitalism If you want to make money, you have to work for it.