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Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:02 am**

Telconi wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I'm sorry anon but your waifu is probably rusted out junk

Not if he has a good 870.

The 870 is the best civilian pump action.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:58 am**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Not if he has a good 870.

The 870 is the best civilian pump action.

That's probably true.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:01 am**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Not if he has a good 870.

The 870 is the best civilian pump action.

590/590A1

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:33 am**

Spreewerke wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:The 870 is the best civilian pump action.

590/590A1

"the 590A1 is the duty weapon of choice for military and law enforcement"

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:52 pm**

Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:57 pm**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

Assuming it takes about a second to pull the trigger, and a half second for the round to fire, that adds up to 1.5 seconds, although that's a very rough aproximation that's probably wrong. So 1.5 times 10 equals 15 seconds, if my numbers are right, which is unlikely.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:19 pm**

wtf? were is semi-fully automatic chain operated on the poll?

Also, I am joking no sue pls

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:16 pm**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

iirc, the cyclic of a handgun is ridiculous...

Such as is the case of the Glock 17.

Revolvers are pretty fast, though. Get some from a fudd.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:18 pm**

Impaled Nazarene wrote:Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

Stupidly fast, if you bumpfire a semi auto handgun you can magdump like crazy.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:28 pm**

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

iirc, the cyclic of a handgun is ridiculous...

Such as is the case of the Glock 17.

Revolvers arepretty fast, though.

What, did they blow their entire ammo budget on the Glock so they couldn't get any .303 for that Vickers?

And you know damn well that the second video doesn't count since Jerry ain't human...

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:31 pm**

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Telconi wrote:I voted for all of them

You know what? Why not!

GUNS A GO-GO!

YASS

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:50 pm**

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:iirc, the cyclic of a handgun is ridiculous...

Such as is the case of the Glock 17.

Revolvers arepretty fast, though.

What, did they blow their entire ammo budget on the Glock so they couldn't get any .303 for that Vickers?

And you know damn well that the second video doesn't count since Jerry ain't human...

K, then, have some normal people

So yes, compared to them, even Jerry-levels of competance can outstrip average shooters with a 3 or 6 to one rate.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:12 pm**

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

Assuming it takes about a second to pull the trigger, and a half second for the round to fire, that adds up to 1.5 seconds, although that's a very rough aproximation that's probably wrong. So 1.5 times 10 equals 15 seconds, if my numbers are right, which is unlikely.

I have gotten ~0.3 second split times with my Glock 17, and there's tons of competition shooters faster than I am. Especially so with a nice, tuned 1911 trigger. You could easily get to a rate of fire of one tenth of a second or so, but a regular person just smashing away at the trigger is still probably going to be firing faster than one round per second, just quite inaccurately.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:20 pm**

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Impaled Nazarene wrote:Alright dumb question. How fast can one possibly shoot a semi-auto handgun. My character in my novel and short story uses a modified 1911a1 that holds 10 rounds. I'm using "because demons and magic" as the reason for why he can empty all 10 rounds and reload in the time it takes the average person to shoot twice. Though I am interested in how fast one can theoretically empty all 10 rounds in the real world.

iirc, the cyclic of a handgun is ridiculous...

Such as is the case of the Glock 17.

Revolvers are pretty fast, though. Get some from a fudd.

Wow my character is faster than the legend himself. He makes the 1911a1 shoot as fast as the glock the only difference is 10 round clip vs 50 round drum. The AK was the sexiest part of the whole video the guy makes it look like the recoil is next to none.

Though, for speed Bob Munden has my heart.

Posted: **Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:35 pm**

Spreewerke wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Assuming it takes about a second to pull the trigger, and a half second for the round to fire, that adds up to 1.5 seconds, although that's a very rough aproximation that's probably wrong. So 1.5 times 10 equals 15 seconds, if my numbers are right, which is unlikely.

I have gotten ~0.3 second split times with my Glock 17, and there's tons of competition shooters faster than I am. Especially so with a nice, tuned 1911 trigger. You could easily get to a rate of fire of one tenth of a second or so, but a regular person just smashing away at the trigger is still probably going to be firing faster than one round per second, just quite inaccurately.

I always make a point to push my rate of fire to "fastest comfortable aimed fire on a preheated barrel" just to get a realistic-ish picture of what that'll do to how recoil will stack.

Maintaining 2to 4 MOA is pretty decent for a minute (or half-minute) double-40 dump (rifle, AR-15, 16" pencil barrel, shifts about half an MOA to the left and a hair low with dispersion primarily being vertical).

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:33 am**

Spreewerke wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Assuming it takes about a second to pull the trigger, and a half second for the round to fire, that adds up to 1.5 seconds, although that's a very rough aproximation that's probably wrong. So 1.5 times 10 equals 15 seconds, if my numbers are right, which is unlikely.

I have gotten ~0.3 second split times with my Glock 17, and there's tons of competition shooters faster than I am. Especially so with a nice, tuned 1911 trigger. You could easily get to a rate of fire of one tenth of a second or so, but a regular person just smashing away at the trigger is still probably going to be firing faster than one round per second, just quite inaccurately.

The last part is the kicker. I am hardly an average shooter, but it is very easy for my rate if fire to exceed my accuracy.

Now imagine how fast Jerry would be if he decided to cut his accuracy. :blink:

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:25 pm**

Big Jim P wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

I have gotten ~0.3 second split times with my Glock 17, and there's tons of competition shooters faster than I am. Especially so with a nice, tuned 1911 trigger. You could easily get to a rate of fire of one tenth of a second or so, but a regular person just smashing away at the trigger is still probably going to be firing faster than one round per second, just quite inaccurately.

The last part is the kicker. I am hardly an average shooter, but it is very easy for my rate if fire to exceed my accuracy.

Now imagine how fast Jerry would be if he decided to cut his accuracy.

He'd probably be illegal in some states.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:33 pm**

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
The last part is the kicker. I am hardly an average shooter, but it is very easy for my rate if fire to exceed my accuracy.

Now imagine how fast Jerry would be if he decided to cut his accuracy.

He'd probably be illegal in some states.

They might count it as automatic fire, which is not possible with an M1911 as far as I know.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:34 pm**

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:He'd probably be illegal in some states.

They might count it as automatic fire, which is not possible with an M1911 as far as I know.

There's been full auto 1911's, they be rare tho

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:41 pm**

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:He'd probably be illegal in some states.

They might count it as automatic fire, which is not possible with an M1911 as far as I know.

These are also the people who ban "assault" rifles based on cosmetic features, so I wouldn't put it past them.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:45 pm**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:They might count it as automatic fire, which is not possible with an M1911 as far as I know.

There's been full auto 1911's, they be rare tho

Always wished there were more of these in the world.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:48 pm**

Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
There's been full auto 1911's, they be rare tho

Always wished there were more of these in the world.

I actually had some plans for a 1911 full auto conversion on my old PC (they were very old and just a .pdf scan of some documents), I'm a bit sad I lost those cuz I wanted to try and mess with it at some point.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:00 pm**

I'll be posting some pics soon of the firearms I'm going to be inheriting, but I've got to wait until the transfers are completed. I hope to have them next week, or the week after.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:08 pm**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Democratic Exodian Territories wrote:Always wished there were more of these in the world.

I actually had some plans for a 1911 full auto conversion on my old PC (they were very old and just a .pdf scan of some documents), I'm a bit sad I lost those cuz I wanted to try and mess with it at some point.

If Hughes ever goes away, I'm going to need some info on that.

Posted: **Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:14 pm**

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:They might count it as automatic fire, which is not possible with an M1911 as far as I know.

There's been full auto 1911's, they be rare tho

Seriously? That is so cool.

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