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Free-Don wrote:You and i are still agreeing regardless. Get a 0.30/7.62 rifle that is semi-auto and make use of volume of fire and vehicles.

Big Jim P wrote:

Free-Don wrote:You and i are still agreeing regardless. Get a 0.30/7.62 rifle that is semi-auto and make use of volume of fire and vehicles.

I prefer the "nuke the site from orbit" option.

I like big booms and I cannot lie.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

Free-Don wrote:LIterally hollow bones or extremely fragile bones, thin skin for most, fingernails for armor, heads that take up 1/6th their body mass, and large fleshy lungs with little to no protection coupled with the fact they are probably obvious and large. There's also the fact that elephants are being poached with AKs and their weight range is typically around 5-7 mT but has gone pasted 9mT. Compared to a t-reck which is typically 6-8 mT but can get as high as 12mT.

So you and everyone around you can pretty much just hunt down and re-extinct dinos with aks given some time and the fact that you can still probably outrun most of the big dinos or if you have a good racing bike out bike nearly all of them. If you really want to outrun a dino just get a car and if you are a bad shot just use any 7.62/0.30 full power rifle and it'll work.

Basic me and naza are agreeing. You want bigger but standard stuff will do.

In Jurassic Park they don't have hollow bones except for the raptor skeleton at the montana dig site in JP1. Or the blunt force trauma would have killed a few more dinos. The genetic gaps led to the use of frog and reptilian genes so the skin is much thicker and their pain tolerance is massive.

The big problem is that you are being hunted the moment you set foot on the island. The raptors reach over 50mph and can navigate the jungle extraordinarily fast you're only going to get a shot off when it's in your face. The Theropods will smell you first and the loud thumps won't help you find it first.

Basically these aren't dinosaurs but monsters with dinosaur attributes.

Impaled Nazarene wrote:

Big Jim P wrote:
I prefer the "nuke the site from orbit" option.

I like big booms and I cannot lie.

You call yourself a gun nut but the idea of dinosaur hunting doesn't make you nut. Hillarycrat detected.

Pax Nerdvana wrote:

Impaled Nazarene wrote:In Jurassic Park they don't have hollow bones except for the raptor skeleton at the montana dig site in JP1. Or the blunt force trauma would have killed a few more dinos. The genetic gaps led to the use of frog and reptilian genes so the skin is much thicker and their pain tolerance is massive.

The big problem is that you are being hunted the moment you set foot on the island. The raptors reach over 50mph and can navigate the jungle extraordinarily fast you're only going to get a shot off when it's in your face. The Theropods will smell you first and the loud thumps won't help you find it first.

Basically these aren't dinosaurs but monsters with dinosaur attributes.

Actually, if I were hunting dinos, just give me an A-10 Warthog.

Big Jim P wrote:

Pax Nerdvana wrote:Actually, if I were hunting dinos, just give me an A-10 Warthog.

I want one for squirrel season. And hog hunting. And plain shits and giggles.

Free-Don wrote:A T-rex has a maximum running speed of around 17 MPH if they are willing to run soo hard that they would probably be tearing and ripping their own joints and tendons off. 6-7 MPH is the more accepted running speed. The vast majority of their head is nasal and ear cavities and are themselves composed of flappy flesh that just sucks in and absorbs air of which the head takes up around a tenth of it's entire body mass. They also have extremely large lungs and organs that aren't protected much at all and even the sort of protective scales might just be as thick and strong as finger nails.

So we have a slow moving animal that is extremely large with a face that is probably more flesh than bone with little in the way of protection... 0.5 cal anything is overkill.

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:

Free-Don wrote:A T-rex has a maximum running speed of around 17 MPH if they are willing to run soo hard that they would probably be tearing and ripping their own joints and tendons off. 6-7 MPH is the more accepted running speed. The vast majority of their head is nasal and ear cavities and are themselves composed of flappy flesh that just sucks in and absorbs air of which the head takes up around a tenth of it's entire body mass. They also have extremely large lungs and organs that aren't protected much at all and even the sort of protective scales might just be as thick and strong as finger nails.

So we have a slow moving animal that is extremely large with a face that is probably more flesh than bone with little in the way of protection... 0.5 cal anything is overkill.

Actually, early estimates back in the 1990's paced them in their mid 20's, and that was presuming solid reptillian bone-structure.

The fact that the younglings had a less-dense/more-mass-effiecent hollow bone structure of avians kinda cranks their max running speed in their "prime" to something like 40 mph. (turns slower than a dump-truck, though)

And then there are estimates on how fast those things could swim... Imagine a giant gator that can jump like a bunny...

Plus, there's how long a hit in the "vitals" would take to actually drop a T-rex... A dying T-rex can still do a lot of damage in 15 seconds at close range.

Free-Don wrote:Human maximum running speed is set at 40+ MPH and Chickens at 20-35MPH for our joint average muscle and bone set ups, for both running speed are more around 8-12 MPH. The issue with technical maximum running speed is a quadratic problem with the whole cube law stuff that increases with size and scale. T-Rex maximum being at 27ish MPH will probably realistically only be at 4-8 MPH.

40+ round magazines are going to be a staple for dino hunting rifles.

Free-Don wrote:Human maximum running speed is set at 40+ MPH and Chickens at 20-35MPH for our joint average muscle and bone set ups, for both running speed are more around 8-12 MPH. The issue with technical maximum running speed is a quadratic problem with the whole cube law stuff that increases with size and scale. T-Rex maximum being at 27ish MPH will probably realistically only be at 4-8 MPH.

40+ round magazines are going to be a staple for dino hunting rifles.

Sovaal wrote:Fastest a human has ever been recorded running is around 28 mph.

Free-Don wrote:

Sovaal wrote:Fastest a human has ever been recorded running is around 28 mph.

Yes, and the fastest chickens were only 9 mph. I was talking about fastest a human can mechanically move is more than 40 mph.

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Telconi wrote:

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Get yourself a pump, like a nice brand new Remington 870.

Telconi wrote:

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Get yourself a pump, like a nice brand new Remington 870.

Sovaal wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Get yourself a pump, like a nice brand new Remington 870.

Nah, new Remingtons are shit.

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Tule wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Get yourself a pump, like a nice brand new Remington 870.

Shooting doubles in International skeet is much more tough with a pump than in American skeet. It's very easy to lose the second pigeon.
I like the 870 but it's just not good for what I intend to use a shotgun for.

O/U's would work, but they're hideously expensive.

Telconi wrote:

Tule wrote:This summer I've had the opportunity to try out a variety of guns. Been interested in getting a license for them for a while now, but my experiences were a bit different from what I expected in terms of which guns I want.

Turns out that rifles are my least favourite type of gun. Which is not what I expected.

Conversely, shotguns are REALLY fun. Far more fun than I expected.

Handguns are pretty fun too, more so than I expected. Don't mean to brag but I did far better with them than I thought I would: I actually hit the target.

I have little interest in driving 400 miles to Reindeer territory and back with a $2000 rifle with $1000 optics firing $2.50 rounds and gutting the whole thing. I might get a .22 rifle for target shooting but that would be a later purchase.

A shotgun will kill anything else that lives on this island, the ammo is c 35 per shell, no need for expensive sights and shooting clays is very difficult and way more fun than rifle shooting.

My first gun will definitely be a shotgun. Thinking of getting a Benelli M2. I was initially interested in a Beretta Outlander but was warned about getting a gas-operated shotgun due to the maintenance needed.

Thoughts?

Get yourself a pump, like a nice brand new Remington 870.

Tule wrote:

Telconi wrote:
Get yourself a pump, like a nice brand new Remington 870.

Shooting doubles in International skeet is much more tough with a pump than in American skeet. It's very easy to lose the second pigeon.
I like the 870 but it's just not good for what I intend to use a shotgun for.

O/U's would work, but they're hideously expensive.