GUN TALK II: Doubletap

[Ithalian Empire]

The yugo seems least likely to fall victim of a "mandatory gun buyback" and thus least likely to become lost in a boating accident.

Plus I like muzzle brakes that double as grenade-launcchers.

California has entered the chat.

Fuck of California.

[American Legionaries]

California has entered the chat.

Fuck of California.

Of course, but they ban the M59/66 by name because "muh grenade launcher"

[Mercatus]

Alright, I’ve ceased to be a poor now that I have my first job, and I’ve got myself a little over $1,000 to spend. I’m torn between buying a Yugoslavian SKS still fresh in cosmoline, a Norinco Paratrooper SKS, or a new Zastava ZPAP. One one hand, I like the collectibility of the SKS platform, but I’ve always wanted a Serbian AK, and only God knows when they will be banned from import when the next Balkan War starts.

The yugo seems least likely to fall victim of a "mandatory gun buyback" and thus least likely to become lost in a boating accident.

Plus I like muzzle brakes that double as grenade-launcchers.

The Yugo SKS is the sexiest of them all if you ask me.

I’m a bit of a fanboy for Yugoslavian guns and gear.

[Galactic Transylvania]

I kind of want a stamped Vietnam-era M16 but that has to be impossible to find now adays or just prohibitively expensive if you can.

[Mercatus]

I kind of want a stamped Vietnam-era M16 but that has to be impossible to find now adays or just prohibitively expensive if you can.

ARs are milled from aluminum.

You could build a copy from an M16 parts kit.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

I kind of want a stamped Vietnam-era M16 but that has to be impossible to find now adays or just prohibitively expensive if you can.

ARs are milled from aluminum.

You could build a copy from an M16 parts kit.

The original GI-issued ones from Colt are actually cast-aluminum.

[GENSOC]

Alright, I’ve ceased to be a poor now that I have my first job, and I’ve got myself a little over $1,000 to spend. I’m torn between buying a Yugoslavian SKS still fresh in cosmoline, a Norinco Paratrooper SKS, or a new Zastava ZPAP. One one hand, I like the collectibility of the SKS platform, but I’ve always wanted a Serbian AK, and only God knows when they will be banned from import when the next Balkan War starts.

Go for the Zastava, they are incredibly well made.

[Galactic Transylvania]

I kind of want a stamped Vietnam-era M16 but that has to be impossible to find now adays or just prohibitively expensive if you can.

ARs are milled from aluminum.

You could build a copy from an M16 parts kit.

Not an FFL. Would love to be though. So that's a potential option.

[Ithalian Empire]

ARs are milled from aluminum.

You could build a copy from an M16 parts kit.

Not an FFL. Would love to be though. So that's a potential option.

Buy a lower, buy a parts kit, assemble. Pretty sure you can do that without being an FFL.

[The Chuck]

Not an FFL. Would love to be though. So that's a potential option.

Buy a lower, buy a parts kit, assemble. Pretty sure you can do that without being an FFL.

Construction of firearms for personal use within the United States is pretty much legal (Do your own God damned research before taking a rando's word for it!) in all states to a degree (depends on state iirc). For AR/M16 style rifles, only the stripped lower receiver counts as a firearm. Outside of that, all other parts may be purchased and assembled by the end user without a license/etc. For the lower, you usually (check again your state laws) put in your local FFL gunshop address and let them ship there and then do the 4473 at the shop. After that, assemble away!

[Germanic Templars]

Recently did a little cosmetic "upgrade" to AR by changing out the dust cover for something else. I am now thinking about changing out the Bolt Assembly Group from the phosphate finish to the chrome finish. The reason is that it seems it would be easier to clean than phosphate finish.

That said, last Saturday I went to the shooting range with my brother bringing all but one of my guns.

The Bersa .380 Thunder was a fun pistol to shoot.

The GSG MP40 9mm was less fun but relatively reliable. The only stoppage I had was when steel 9mm ammo was used directly after brass 9mm, also when my brother put his hand on the magazine. Also, range rules said that only 1 shot for every 2 seconds so trying to hold the MP40 without a buttstock was awful and my left arm was getting sore after holding it for several minutes. It was to the point where I was about to say, "fuck it, ill pay the tax stamp to make this thing a registered SBR."

The AR-15 (Mk-4 by CMMG) shot like an AR-15 should shoot, except with less recoil due to the front muzzle shooting gas to both sides of the gun. Also tried to shoot this directly after MP40 and that was a no after getting through the first 30 round magazine, which means I should invest in a bipod too.

Vz.24 (Kar98) shot how a bolt action rifle should shoot and how one would expect from a well-crafted gun. Still one of my favorites to shoot.

[Pax Nerdvana]

One of my friends has a Winchester Model 1892 that was made in 1899.

Laughs in late production model 1891 3-line rifle.

Early wartime-emergency production (1943), though. Mostly Izhevesk with a blyat of Tula parts.

Although the physically oldest is probably "a shotgun of some sort" made sometime between 1871 and 1940 in 16 gauge.

My oldest gun’s an old 20 gauge. All I know is that it was made in the ‘30s or ‘40s.
Trying to decide between a .308, a 12 gauge, or a 7.62x39 for my next gun. Or maybe a .30-30. Exactly what it is depends on what I find for cheap at my LGS; I’m just trying to figure out what caliber I want, and I’ll go from there

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Laughs in late production model 1891 3-line rifle.

Early wartime-emergency production (1943), though. Mostly Izhevesk with a blyat of Tula parts.

Although the physically oldest is probably "a shotgun of some sort" made sometime between 1871 and 1940 in 16 gauge.

My oldest gun’s an old 20 gauge. All I know is that it was made in the ‘30s or ‘40s.
Trying to decide between a .308, a 12 gauge, or a 7.62x39 for my next gun. Or maybe a .30-30. Exactly what it is depends on what I find for cheap at my LGS; I’m just trying to figure out what caliber I want, and I’ll go from there

12 gauge and a reloading-press setup able to handle slugs... maybe some 20 gauge powder-bushings...

Plus shotgun-ammo is usually less exotic, so you can probably find shells at most stores that handle ammo.

.308 is good for when you actually need to put holes in something beyond 100 yards without needing to pray to the deity of your choice.

[GENSOC]

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

[Apotheosis Pandemonium]

When I grow up I plan to want guns for self-defense and for shooting them at ranges it could be a shotgun, a pistol, and a AR 15 for self-defense. Maybe a rifle too.

Also
THOU SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

[Ithalian Empire]

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

Good luck with 8x56. Not many tricks to get them working

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

iirc, 7.7mm jap was a copy of .303 British, dimensionally. (correction, they had both types of 7.7 Navy [copied .303 Brit] and 7.7 Army [Arisaka])

Pressure-wise, the Arisaka can generally take a beating and a half much like the black-powder proofed Mosins.

So .303 Brit should be able to work in a pinch.

Although there's 7.7 rimmed, semi-rimmed, and "rimless" arisaka ammo. Most of those designations being how much the rim (diameter) was shaved-down. Not a perfect fit, but a better fit than firing a .30-.30 out a Mosin.

[Pax Nerdvana]

My oldest gun’s an old 20 gauge. All I know is that it was made in the ‘30s or ‘40s.
Trying to decide between a .308, a 12 gauge, or a 7.62x39 for my next gun. Or maybe a .30-30. Exactly what it is depends on what I find for cheap at my LGS; I’m just trying to figure out what caliber I want, and I’ll go from there

12 gauge and a reloading-press setup able to handle slugs... maybe some 20 gauge powder-bushings...

Plus shotgun-ammo is usually less exotic, so you can probably find shells at most stores that handle ammo.

.308 is good for when you actually need to put holes in something beyond 100 yards without needing to pray to the deity of your choice.

I’m leaning towards a 12 gauge or a .308. Are shotshell reloading components actually available?

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

My grandpa’s got an old heirloom pump action .22WRF. Through sheer luck, I managed to source him some of the CCI stuff. When I handed it to him, his reaction was priceless. He quite literally said,”I haven’t seen those in fifty years.”

[American Legionaries]

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

6.5 Jap. Is best Jap.

[GENSOC]

Anyone else ever built a gun in an obscure caliber for which ammo was available when you were building it but now isn't? 'Cause I made that mistake fairly recently and I don't have the facilities to reload.

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

Hilariously enough I also have an M95/30. I usually get 8x56R from SGAmmo, though for obvious reasons it's been more expensive lately whereas it used to be cheaper than 8mm Mauser.

I built an AR in 9x39mm and while I still have about 500 rounds I'm really feeling like a fool.

[Ithalian Empire]

I bought two rifle that I will never find ammo for. An Arisaka Type 99 and a Mannlicher M1895. Try finding 7.7mm Jap. and 8X56mmR.

Hilariously enough I also have an M95/30. I usually get 8x56R from SGAmmo, though for obvious reasons it's been more expensive lately whereas it used to be cheaper than 8mm Mauser.

I built an AR in 9x39mm and while I still have about 500 rounds I'm really feeling like a fool.

I am probably never going to shoot my M95. Its been relegated to wall hanger. I would love to join it with some more Great War rifles if I could.

[GENSOC]

Hilariously enough I also have an M95/30. I usually get 8x56R from SGAmmo, though for obvious reasons it's been more expensive lately whereas it used to be cheaper than 8mm Mauser.

I built an AR in 9x39mm and while I still have about 500 rounds I'm really feeling like a fool.

I am probably never going to shoot my M95. Its been relegated to wall hanger. I would love to join it with some more Great War rifles if I could.

All for the best unless you like really heavy recoil. I do but I more than understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea. Stiff, powerful round out of a 7 pound rifle is fun but somewhat painful.

[Krasny-Volny]

Laughs in late production model 1891 3-line rifle.

Early wartime-emergency production (1943), though. Mostly Izhevesk with a blyat of Tula parts.

Although the physically oldest is probably "a shotgun of some sort" made sometime between 1871 and 1940 in 16 gauge.

My oldest gun’s an old 20 gauge. All I know is that it was made in the ‘30s or ‘40s.
Trying to decide between a .308, a 12 gauge, or a 7.62x39 for my next gun. Or maybe a .30-30. Exactly what it is depends on what I find for cheap at my LGS; I’m just trying to figure out what caliber I want, and I’ll go from there

Got an SKS? I bought one because I couldn’t decide between an AK and a 30-30 I wanted to use as a brush gun, and it’s probably the most practical decision I’ve made when buying a firearm.

[Antipatros]

ARs are milled from aluminum.

You could build a copy from an M16 parts kit.

The original GI-issued ones from Colt are actually cast-aluminum.

Did not know that. When I think of cast firearms, I usually think of Ruger.

Makes a good deal of sense, though. Investment castings are used pretty widely in the aerospace industry. Was this something that Colt introduced, or did Armalite use cast parts too?