GUN TALK II: Doubletap

[Pax Nerdvana]

Glad S&W is abandoning Massachusetts

[Grinning Dragon]

Glad S&W is abandoning Massachusetts

TBH, everyone should leave Must-be-a-pice-of-shits-its

[The Two Jerseys]

Glad S&W is abandoning Massachusetts

TBH, everyone should leave Must-be-a-pice-of-shits-its

No, we need to keep them and their shitty politics quarantined to prevent them from ruining the nice states.

[Mercatus]

TBH, everyone should leave Must-be-a-pice-of-shits-its

No, we need to keep them and their shitty politics quarantined to prevent them from ruining the nice states.

We should keep the state and get rid of its people somehow.

[Pax Nerdvana]

No, we need to keep them and their shitty politics quarantined to prevent them from ruining the nice states.

We should keep the state and get rid of its people somehow.

If only…

On an unrelated note, I have my first shotgun. Found an elderly Stevens 237 on the rack at my LGS. 20 gauge bolt action single shot. Really nice condition, considering it’s age. I was in and out of the store in half an hour. Man, I love this country.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

We should keep the state and get rid of its people somehow.

If only…

On an unrelated note, I have my first shotgun. Found an elderly Stevens 237 on the rack at my LGS. 20 gauge bolt action single shot. Really nice condition, considering it’s age. I was in and out of the store in half an hour. Man, I love this country.

The Stevens with a 2 shot mag is nice, although over time the mags tend to split if loaded and kept out of the gun.

OTOH, they're sinple enough you could probably reverse-engineer and fabri-cobble a 5 shot box-mag.

[Impaled Nazarene]

So since there isn't a bow thread maybe y'all can help me.
Is there a specific name for crossbow style weapons where the arms bend forward (away from the wielder) as opposed to backwards (towards the wielder)? I thought that's what an Arbalest was but I could not find any information on that. These are for Medieval and Renaissance crossbows of course not modern day crossbows.

[The Two Jerseys]

So since there isn't a bow thread maybe y'all can help me.
Is there a specific name for crossbow style weapons where the arms bend forward (away from the wielder) as opposed to backwards (towards the wielder)? I thought that's what an Arbalest was but I could not find any information on that. These are for Medieval and Renaissance crossbows of course not modern day crossbows.

Recurve crossbow?

[Grinning Dragon]

So since there isn't a bow thread maybe y'all can help me.
Is there a specific name for crossbow style weapons where the arms bend forward (away from the wielder) as opposed to backwards (towards the wielder)? I thought that's what an Arbalest was but I could not find any information on that. These are for Medieval and Renaissance crossbows of course not modern day crossbows.

Recurve crossbow?

An Arbalest uses a recurved bow. It is also interesting that larger versions of the Arbalest could produce 5000 pounds of force
As to the question at hand the only thing I could think of would be the Gastraphetes

[Impaled Nazarene]

So since there isn't a bow thread maybe y'all can help me.
Is there a specific name for crossbow style weapons where the arms bend forward (away from the wielder) as opposed to backwards (towards the wielder)? I thought that's what an Arbalest was but I could not find any information on that. These are for Medieval and Renaissance crossbows of course not modern day crossbows.

Recurve crossbow?

This is what it would look like

[Mercatus]

We should keep the state and get rid of its people somehow.

If only…

On an unrelated note, I have my first shotgun. Found an elderly Stevens 237 on the rack at my LGS. 20 gauge bolt action single shot. Really nice condition, considering it’s age. I was in and out of the store in half an hour. Man, I love this country.

That is just damn cool.

I’ll hopefully be acquiring an Ithaca Deerslayer in 12 gauge from my grandpa (still around btw). It’s basically an Ithaca 37 with a 3 inch chamber, rifle sights, and on some models, engraving.

[Pax Nerdvana]

If only…

On an unrelated note, I have my first shotgun. Found an elderly Stevens 237 on the rack at my LGS. 20 gauge bolt action single shot. Really nice condition, considering it’s age. I was in and out of the store in half an hour. Man, I love this country.

The Stevens with a 2 shot mag is nice, although over time the mags tend to split if loaded and kept out of the gun.

OTOH, they're sinple enough you could probably reverse-engineer and fabri-cobble a 5 shot box-mag.

It doesn’t even have a mag. Holds a single round in the chamber. Speaking of the chamber, I still need to actually measure the chamber, but I’m pretty sure it’s 2 3/4.

Took it apart and oiled it yesterday. Hardly needed any cleaning at all. The bore’s practically mint. Whoever had it before me took pretty good care of it. It has about three moving parts.

If only…

On an unrelated note, I have my first shotgun. Found an elderly Stevens 237 on the rack at my LGS. 20 gauge bolt action single shot. Really nice condition, considering it’s age. I was in and out of the store in half an hour. Man, I love this country.

That is just damn cool.

I’ll hopefully be acquiring an Ithaca Deerslayer in 12 gauge from my grandpa (still around btw). It’s basically an Ithaca 37 with a 3 inch chamber, rifle sights, and on some models, engraving.

Lovely! My grandpa has an old Deerslayer like that, and it handles like a dream. His only shotguns are that Deerslayer and an old 1897. I’ve got a standing offer on the 1897. He’s talked about selling it, but he hasn’t yet. Fine old shotgun.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

The Stevens with a 2 shot mag is nice, although over time the mags tend to split if loaded and kept out of the gun.

OTOH, they're sinple enough you could probably reverse-engineer and fabri-cobble a 5 shot box-mag.

It doesn’t even have a mag. Holds a single round in the chamber. Speaking of the chamber, I still need to actually measure the chamber, but I’m pretty sure it’s 2 3/4.

Took it apart and oiled it yesterday. Hardly needed any cleaning at all. The bore’s practically mint. Whoever had it before me took pretty good care of it. It has about three moving parts.

I call bull.

Stevens shotgun bolts are blind-pinned together, disassembly of those is a royal pain in the arse when something goes wrong with it.

When that happens, you buy your gunsmith the good beer.

If the bolt is through-pinned, it means a gunsmith has already had their way with it.

[Pax Nerdvana]

It doesn’t even have a mag. Holds a single round in the chamber. Speaking of the chamber, I still need to actually measure the chamber, but I’m pretty sure it’s 2 3/4.

Took it apart and oiled it yesterday. Hardly needed any cleaning at all. The bore’s practically mint. Whoever had it before me took pretty good care of it. It has about three moving parts.

I call bull.

Stevens shotgun bolts are blind-pinned together, disassembly of those is a royal pain in the arse when something goes wrong with it.

When that happens, you buy your gunsmith the good beer.

If the bolt is through-pinned, it means a gunsmith has already had their way with it.

I should have clarified. I didn’t take the bolt apart, just pulled it out, and went over it with some CLP and a rag. There’s a bit of corrosion inside it, but I’m scared to take it apart. I don’t know if someone’s taken the bolt apart before. If they did, I I can’t tell. I do think someone took the buttplate off at some point. The buttplate screws are a little worn, as is the takedown screw.

I did notice a little minor pitting in the barrel that I didn’t see before, so I ran soaked it in CLP, and ran a brush down it a few times. Think that took care of it.

[The Two Jerseys]

So last night I was watching a YouTube video where some guy rattles through a list of "cartridges that will soon be obsolete", and one of those he named was .40 S&W. Anyone else think that this is a crock of horseshit?

[Pax Nerdvana]

So last night I was watching a YouTube video where some guy rattles through a list of "cartridges that will soon be obsolete", and one of those he named was .40 S&W. Anyone else think that this is a crock of horseshit?

Yeah. .40 S&W isn’t obsolete. At the very least, it’s still reasonably popular. It’s not like it’s .38 SCF

[Neanderthaland]

So last night I was watching a YouTube video where some guy rattles through a list of "cartridges that will soon be obsolete", and one of those he named was .40 S&W. Anyone else think that this is a crock of horseshit?

I don't want to pretend to be an expert on ammunition, but based on how well .40 S&W sells I doubt it's going anywhere soon. This guy is talking out of his ass.

[The Two Jerseys]

So last night I was watching a YouTube video where some guy rattles through a list of "cartridges that will soon be obsolete", and one of those he named was .40 S&W. Anyone else think that this is a crock of horseshit?

Yeah. .40 S&W isn’t obsolete. At the very least, it’s still reasonably popular. It’s not like it’s .38 SCF

So last night I was watching a YouTube video where some guy rattles through a list of "cartridges that will soon be obsolete", and one of those he named was .40 S&W. Anyone else think that this is a crock of horseshit?

I don't want to pretend to be an expert on ammunition, but based on how well .40 S&W sells I doubt it's going anywhere soon. This guy is talking out of his ass.

Dude (and the 9mm fanbois in the comments section) was basically trying to justify .40 S&W's "obsolescence" by arguing "cops are going back to 9mm because .40 S&W has too much recoil" and "9mm performance has caught up with .40 S&W", while the comment section rebuttals were basically ".40 S&W recoil isn't excessive, the cops just need to get their asses to the range more often" and "you complain about .40 S&W recoil yet your 'equal' 9mm loadings are packed to +P+ levels, and projectile design improvements also work both ways".

Then he goes and ruins whatever credibility he may have had left by claiming that .32 ACP and .25 ACP are also "on the way" to becoming obsolete, despite those calibers being completely useless for anything other than collecting...

[Neanderthaland]

Yeah. .40 S&W isn’t obsolete. At the very least, it’s still reasonably popular. It’s not like it’s .38 SCF

I don't want to pretend to be an expert on ammunition, but based on how well .40 S&W sells I doubt it's going anywhere soon. This guy is talking out of his ass.

Dude (and the 9mm fanbois in the comments section) was basically trying to justify .40 S&W's "obsolescence" by arguing "cops are going back to 9mm because .40 S&W has too much recoil" and "9mm performance has caught up with .40 S&W", while the comment section rebuttals were basically ".40 S&W recoil isn't excessive, the cops just need to get their asses to the range more often" and "you complain about .40 S&W recoil yet your 'equal' 9mm loadings are packed to +P+ levels, and projectile design improvements also work both ways".

Then he goes and ruins whatever credibility he may have had left by claiming that .32 ACP and .25 ACP are also "on the way" to becoming obsolete, despite those calibers being completely useless for anything other than collecting...

Again: don't want to claim to be an expert (the only pistol I own uses black powder and fires one shot), but aren't 9mm and .40 S&W essentially the same? Or at least very similar? I know .40 is a bit closer to 10mm, but depending on how you pack them?

Like I bet if you blindfolded me, and had me fire both (don't try this at home) I'd have a hard time telling you which was which.

[The Two Jerseys]

Dude (and the 9mm fanbois in the comments section) was basically trying to justify .40 S&W's "obsolescence" by arguing "cops are going back to 9mm because .40 S&W has too much recoil" and "9mm performance has caught up with .40 S&W", while the comment section rebuttals were basically ".40 S&W recoil isn't excessive, the cops just need to get their asses to the range more often" and "you complain about .40 S&W recoil yet your 'equal' 9mm loadings are packed to +P+ levels, and projectile design improvements also work both ways".

Then he goes and ruins whatever credibility he may have had left by claiming that .32 ACP and .25 ACP are also "on the way" to becoming obsolete, despite those calibers being completely useless for anything other than collecting...

Again: don't want to claim to be an expert (the only pistol I own uses black powder and fires one shot), but aren't 9mm and .40 S&W essentially the same? Or at least very similar? I know .40 is a bit closer to 10mm, but depending on how you pack them?

Like I bet if you blindfolded me, and had me fire both (don't try this at home) I'd have a hard time telling you which was which.

Nice scientific comparison of 9mm/.40 S&W/.45 ACP recoil.

TL;DR version: .40 S&W has a bit more muzzle climb than 9mm and tends to twist sideways (which likely accounts for a lot of the difference in felt recoil), but it's not the knock-you-flat-on-you-ass hand cannon that some people make it out to be.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Again: don't want to claim to be an expert (the only pistol I own uses black powder and fires one shot), but aren't 9mm and .40 S&W essentially the same? Or at least very similar? I know .40 is a bit closer to 10mm, but depending on how you pack them?

Like I bet if you blindfolded me, and had me fire both (don't try this at home) I'd have a hard time telling you which was which.

Nice scientific comparison of 9mm/.40 S&W/.45 ACP recoil.

TL;DR version: .40 S&W has a bit more muzzle climb than 9mm and tends to twist sideways (which likely accounts for a lot of the difference in felt recoil), but it's not the knock-you-flat-on-you-ass hand cannon that some people make it out to be.

It’s basically a shortened 10mm Auto, iirc. The reason they cut it down was *because* of excessive recoil.

[Cereskia 2]

Here is some guns I made for my alt, now what do you think?

[Grinning Dragon]

Maybe of some interest to y'all
More Firearms Imported in 2020 Than Ever Before
Turkey, Austria and Brazil were the top 3 importers.
Also to mention Texas is the number one state for nfa registered weapons.

[The Chuck]

JStark passed away a few days ago. Supposedly according to Der Spiegel and other news sources, he had a heart attack in his car after a police raid.

His creativity and legacy as the main brains behind the FGC-9 and FGC-9 MK. II shall not be forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1GwG0mPHLw

In the words of his namesake, General Jonathan Stark, "Live Free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils."

[Hurtful Thoughts]

I call bull.

Stevens shotgun bolts are blind-pinned together, disassembly of those is a royal pain in the arse when something goes wrong with it.

When that happens, you buy your gunsmith the good beer.

If the bolt is through-pinned, it means a gunsmith has already had their way with it.

I should have clarified. I didn’t take the bolt apart, just pulled it out, and went over it with some CLP and a rag. There’s a bit of corrosion inside it, but I’m scared to take it apart. I don’t know if someone’s taken the bolt apart before. If they did, I I can’t tell. I do think someone took the buttplate off at some point. The buttplate screws are a little worn, as is the takedown screw.

I did notice a little minor pitting in the barrel that I didn’t see before, so I ran soaked it in CLP, and ran a brush down it a few times. Think that took care of it.

This bolt should look familiar

Majority of the time it just gets soaked in solvent, then soaked in gun-oil, then wiped down.