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Favorite intermediate cartridge?

5.56 NATO
126
45%
5.45
16
6%
7.62x39
61
22%
.30 Carbine
20
7%
.30-30 WCF
13
5%
Other
45
16%
 
Total votes : 281

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri May 28, 2021 8:04 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:My second to last shipment of AR stuff should get here today. I can’t wait.

Always a good feeling to get that final shipment of firearms parts/accessories.
The few parts I ordered tracking said delayed in transit, and I was yelling, NOOOOOOOOOOO! :lol:

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:17 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:My second to last shipment of AR stuff should get here today. I can’t wait.

Always a good feeling to get that final shipment of firearms parts/accessories.
The few parts I ordered tracking said delayed in transit, and I was yelling, NOOOOOOOOOOO! :lol:

Update: I’m just waiting for the last thing I need, which I ordered over a week ago. It still hasn’t shown up and I’m starting to get worried.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Jun 01, 2021 6:41 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Always a good feeling to get that final shipment of firearms parts/accessories.
The few parts I ordered tracking said delayed in transit, and I was yelling, NOOOOOOOOOOO! :lol:

Update: I’m just waiting for the last thing I need, which I ordered over a week ago. It still hasn’t shown up and I’m starting to get worried.

What does tracking say? Mine got held up in commiefornia for 3 days, pissed me off.
In the past I've contacted both the shipper and the shipping company to inquire on the status of my now very late package and see if they can track it down to where it was last seen.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:49 am

Found a guy selling four or five .308 M1 Garands, two of which had new match barrels. I've never so much as seen a .308 Garand, never mind five of them in one place. Bought one with a GI barrel, pretty stoked.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:04 am

Krasny-Volny wrote:Found a guy selling four or five .308 M1 Garands, two of which had new match barrels. I've never so much as seen a .308 Garand, never mind five of them in one place. Bought one with a GI barrel, pretty stoked.

Must share price and locale? /crosses fingers that this in Louisiana.

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:31 am

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:15 am

:kiss:
Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Update: I’m just waiting for the last thing I need, which I ordered over a week ago. It still hasn’t shown up and I’m starting to get worried.

What does tracking say? Mine got held up in commiefornia for 3 days, pissed me off.
In the past I've contacted both the shipper and the shipping company to inquire on the status of my now very late package and see if they can track it down to where it was last seen.

I ordered as a guest, so it won’t show me tracking info. If it doesn’t come by tommorow, I’m gonna contact them.
Krasny-Volny wrote:Found a guy selling four or five .308 M1 Garands, two of which had new match barrels. I've never so much as seen a .308 Garand, never mind five of them in one place. Bought one with a GI barrel, pretty stoked.

That’s cool! I didn’t think they actually made Garands in .308.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Wed Jun 02, 2021 3:57 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Krasny-Volny wrote:Found a guy selling four or five .308 M1 Garands, two of which had new match barrels. I've never so much as seen a .308 Garand, never mind five of them in one place. Bought one with a GI barrel, pretty stoked.

Must share price and locale? /crosses fingers that this in Louisiana.


Phoenix area, AZ. Price ranged from $1,800 to $2,500 for the nicest of the five.

Pax Nerdvana wrote::kiss:
Grinning Dragon wrote:What does tracking say? Mine got held up in commiefornia for 3 days, pissed me off.
In the past I've contacted both the shipper and the shipping company to inquire on the status of my now very late package and see if they can track it down to where it was last seen.

I ordered as a guest, so it won’t show me tracking info. If it doesn’t come by tommorow, I’m gonna contact them.
Krasny-Volny wrote:Found a guy selling four or five .308 M1 Garands, two of which had new match barrels. I've never so much as seen a .308 Garand, never mind five of them in one place. Bought one with a GI barrel, pretty stoked.

That’s cool! I didn’t think they actually made Garands in .308.


Well, the .308 Garands were originally .30-06s that were rechambered by the US Navy in the ‘60s when everybody else switched over to the M-14, or by the CMP, or by private gunsmiths since then.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:08 am

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Must share price and locale? /crosses fingers that this in Louisiana.


Phoenix area, AZ. Price ranged from $1,800 to $2,500 for the nicest of the five.

Pax Nerdvana wrote::kiss:
I ordered as a guest, so it won’t show me tracking info. If it doesn’t come by tommorow, I’m gonna contact them.

That’s cool! I didn’t think they actually made Garands in .308.


Well, the .308 Garands were originally .30-06s that were rechambered by the US Navy in the ‘60s when everybody else switched over to the M-14, or by the CMP, or by private gunsmiths since then.

Okay, that makes sense.
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"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:34 am

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Must share price and locale? /crosses fingers that this in Louisiana.


Phoenix area, AZ. Price ranged from $1,800 to $2,500 for the nicest of the five.

Pax Nerdvana wrote::kiss:
I ordered as a guest, so it won’t show me tracking info. If it doesn’t come by tommorow, I’m gonna contact them.

That’s cool! I didn’t think they actually made Garands in .308.


Well, the .308 Garands were originally .30-06s that were rechambered by the US Navy in the ‘60s when everybody else switched over to the M-14, or by the CMP, or by private gunsmiths since then.


The .308 Garands require special clips to account for the difference in cartridge length between that and the .30-06. From what I understand, amongst Garand enthusiasts, the .308 is scarce to rare.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:22 am

Talked with the company yesterday. Apparently the last thing I need is on backorder, and won’t ship for a couple weeks.
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"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
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"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Fri Jun 04, 2021 6:42 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:Talked with the company yesterday. Apparently the last thing I need is on backorder, and won’t ship for a couple weeks.

Ugh, that sucks. They could have sent an email or called to inform that they were on back order after you had placed your order.
In my case I keep on top of that when that happens and pretty much inquire everyday on the status.

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:40 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Krasny-Volny wrote:
Phoenix area, AZ. Price ranged from $1,800 to $2,500 for the nicest of the five.



Well, the .308 Garands were originally .30-06s that were rechambered by the US Navy in the ‘60s when everybody else switched over to the M-14, or by the CMP, or by private gunsmiths since then.


The .308 Garands require special clips to account for the difference in cartridge length between that and the .30-06. From what I understand, amongst Garand enthusiasts, the .308 is scarce to rare.

Incorrect.

.308 and .30-06 have such similar base sizes they actually feed from the exact same en-blocs. As video demonstrates, the plastic spacer is actually optional.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:29 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Talked with the company yesterday. Apparently the last thing I need is on backorder, and won’t ship for a couple weeks.

Ugh, that sucks. They could have sent an email or called to inform that they were on back order after you had placed your order.
In my case I keep on top of that when that happens and pretty much inquire everyday on the status.

The site did say it was shipping in a week. Guess they forgot to update it. What bugs me is that this is the piece I need to actually finish the gun.
I thinking I’m gonna order some more ammo, and maybe a couple more 30 round mags.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:42 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Ugh, that sucks. They could have sent an email or called to inform that they were on back order after you had placed your order.
In my case I keep on top of that when that happens and pretty much inquire everyday on the status.

The site did say it was shipping in a week. Guess they forgot to update it. What bugs me is that this is the piece I need to actually finish the gun.
I thinking I’m gonna order some more ammo, and maybe a couple more 30 round mags.

I can understand the 1 week lead time to ship. Was that information available at the time when you placed the order or was that just recently added?
In any case as I said before, I would have been on the phone daily with their customer support/shipping dept inquiring about updates and perhaps to inquire about a financial resolution as in a partial refund in shipping, store credit, etc.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:49 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:The site did say it was shipping in a week. Guess they forgot to update it. What bugs me is that this is the piece I need to actually finish the gun.
I thinking I’m gonna order some more ammo, and maybe a couple more 30 round mags.

I can understand the 1 week lead time to ship. Was that information available at the time when you placed the order or was that just recently added?
In any case as I said before, I would have been on the phone daily with their customer support/shipping dept inquiring about updates and perhaps to inquire about a financial resolution as in a partial refund in shipping, store credit, etc.

That info was on the site when I ordered. I’m honestly not too worried about it getting here late, as long as it gets here. They told me it’d ship in about two weeks, when I emailed them last week. I also just hate making phone calls.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:55 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I can understand the 1 week lead time to ship. Was that information available at the time when you placed the order or was that just recently added?
In any case as I said before, I would have been on the phone daily with their customer support/shipping dept inquiring about updates and perhaps to inquire about a financial resolution as in a partial refund in shipping, store credit, etc.

That info was on the site when I ordered. I’m honestly not too worried about it getting here late, as long as it gets here. They told me it’d ship in about two weeks, when I emailed them last week. I also just hate making phone calls.

I'm a pretty impatient man, the minute I click order, I want it at my door step in the next 5 minutes. HA
As for making phone calls, guess I'm use to it since I deal with making such phone calls on a daily basis for work.

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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:00 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:That info was on the site when I ordered. I’m honestly not too worried about it getting here late, as long as it gets here. They told me it’d ship in about two weeks, when I emailed them last week. I also just hate making phone calls.

I'm a pretty impatient man, the minute I click order, I want it at my door step in the next 5 minutes. HA
As for making phone calls, guess I'm use to it since I deal with making such phone calls on a daily basis for work.

Makes sense. As long as I get it, I don’t really care. I’m just kind of easy going.
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"Affordability
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:03 am

Got an email yesterday saying it shipped. Should be here by Saturday!
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"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
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"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun

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Postby Mercatus » Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:49 pm

Anyone else pissed that AK parts are crazy expensive now? After writing off buying a complete rifle because anything I could afford would be utter shit that could blow my face off, I decided to start tracking down the parts to build an AK. Well, thing is, parts kits are either out of stock or 700+ dollars, excepting that Kolarms KAM-17 virgin kit from Slovakia, which even at almost 500 dollars is overpriced for what it is. I decided to look for individual parts, and they’re actually in stock!

I’m gonna build a polish under folder on an 80% Childers blank, because both of those components are in stock for *reasonable* prices (99 bucks for the stock and trunnion is a steal nowadays). The only barrels in stock were Green Mountain for 150 bucks, and the only front trunnion I found was a Bulgarian one for 99 bucks. Everything else, such as the grip, rivets, top cover etc. were found with no issues. However, I can’t find any components for barrel population, such as the front and rear sight block, handguard retainers, and handguards. Do y’all know any website that has those in stock for an AKM? I can only find Yugo or milled parts in stock, but they don’t fit the rifle I’m gonna build.
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Kathol Rift wrote:Damnit, I hate it when I go to a gun store, think I see a cool old gun behind the counter, ask to look at it, and then it's a .22 conversion. I got really excited when I thought I found a nice Enfield yesterday, and it was an original Enfield, but some fool had converted it to a .22 sometime in the last 70 years.


Fuckin’ bubbas. It was probably cheaper to just buy a new .22, why would they convert a surplus gun?
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:39 pm

PSA actually has some 5.56 and .223 in stock for not horrible prices. Ordered a couple boxes.
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Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Postby Punished UMN » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:42 pm

Crossposting from /k/ since I posted in the milsurp thread there:

Was fiddling with my Arisaka 99. Haven't had a chance to use it since I got it last year and ammo shortage, but one thing I was concerned with was that the safety was inoperable. Took it apart, fiddled with it, put it back together, nothing. Was very perplexed. Decided to take dust cover off to see if anything moved when pulling the trigger, nothing. With the dust cover off though, I noticed I could engage the safety, and when I did so, and took it off, successfully dry-fired the rifle, and did so a couple more times to ensure proper function, reengaging safety, etc. etc. My conclusion is that the dust cover was for some reason impeding operation of the rifle, though they were matching serial numbers so I don't know why the soldier it was issued to would have kept the dust cover if it impeded operation of the rifle. Is it possible the dust cover has deformed or been damaged in some way in the intervening years since the war? Is this a common issue with Arisakas, etc. etc.?

EDIT: Nevermind, I fixed the problem. Upon closer examination, whoever fiddled with the dust cover prior to me fit it on improperly. When properly fitted, the rifle functions as normal.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:30 pm

Punished UMN wrote:EDIT: Nevermind, I fixed the problem. Upon closer examination, whoever fiddled with the dust cover prior to me fit it on improperly. When properly fitted, the rifle functions as normal.

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