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Favorite intermediate cartridge?

5.56 NATO
126
45%
5.45
16
6%
7.62x39
61
22%
.30 Carbine
20
7%
.30-30 WCF
13
5%
Other
45
16%
 
Total votes : 281

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Postby The Chuck » Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:33 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:What would be a good "starter gun" for someone whose never owned one before?

Ruger 10/22 is always a good choice for a rifle, Mosin for a bigger rifle, and then a pistol you can do some cheap ass M1911 or Ruger Mark IV


Cheap ass M1911... Thanks for the chuckle :lol:

Honestly LV, there's starter "plinking guns" such as .22 LR pistols and rifles and there's "starter guns" which are just your normal pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc. If you aren't just going to use this firearm for target plinking and are considering buying a firearm for use as a self defense or anything else tool, I'd recommend going a bit bigger and getting a non .22 LR firearm.

Mercatus wrote:Y’all see what happened to Scott from Kentucky Ballistics?

His Serbu .50 BMG exploded and he caught fragments in his jugular and lung. The man’s a Chad and built like a tank.


I've been sitting here for a while saving up cash to buy an RN-50. This video does make me a little hesitant but supposedly the chamber pressure due to that pissin' hawt SLAP was somewhere around 80,000+ PSI so I'm considering risking it still for a cheap ass fifty.
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Postby Lady Victory » Fri Apr 30, 2021 12:35 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ruger 10/22 is always a good choice for a rifle, Mosin for a bigger rifle, and then a pistol you can do some cheap ass M1911 or Ruger Mark IV


Cheap ass M1911... Thanks for the chuckle :lol:

Honestly LV, there's starter "plinking guns" such as .22 LR pistols and rifles and there's "starter guns" which are just your normal pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc. If you aren't just going to use this firearm for target plinking and are considering buying a firearm for use as a self defense or anything else tool, I'd recommend going a bit bigger and getting a non .22 LR firearm.

Mercatus wrote:Y’all see what happened to Scott from Kentucky Ballistics?

His Serbu .50 BMG exploded and he caught fragments in his jugular and lung. The man’s a Chad and built like a tank.


I've been sitting here for a while saving up cash to buy an RN-50. This video does make me a little hesitant but supposedly the chamber pressure due to that pissin' hawt SLAP was somewhere around 80,000+ PSI so I'm considering risking it still for a cheap ass fifty.


Plinking seems like a good start IMO. My dog can handle home defense for now, he seems eager for the job. :p

Maybe if I was living on my own I'd get a proper gun, tho.
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Postby Mercatus » Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:25 pm

The Chuck wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ruger 10/22 is always a good choice for a rifle, Mosin for a bigger rifle, and then a pistol you can do some cheap ass M1911 or Ruger Mark IV


Cheap ass M1911... Thanks for the chuckle :lol:

Honestly LV, there's starter "plinking guns" such as .22 LR pistols and rifles and there's "starter guns" which are just your normal pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc. If you aren't just going to use this firearm for target plinking and are considering buying a firearm for use as a self defense or anything else tool, I'd recommend going a bit bigger and getting a non .22 LR firearm.

Mercatus wrote:Y’all see what happened to Scott from Kentucky Ballistics?

His Serbu .50 BMG exploded and he caught fragments in his jugular and lung. The man’s a Chad and built like a tank.


I've been sitting here for a while saving up cash to buy an RN-50. This video does make me a little hesitant but supposedly the chamber pressure due to that pissin' hawt SLAP was somewhere around 80,000+ PSI so I'm considering risking it still for a cheap ass fifty.


The RN-50 would still be a great investment. The key to surviving range day with it would be making sure your ammo is safe to fire.

On the other hand, finding out what kind of powder charge was in that SLAP round might come in handy for improvised grenades. That shit could’ve taken down an airplane if more of those rounds were over pressured and were fed into a gun built to withstand them.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sat May 01, 2021 1:10 am

The Chuck wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Ruger 10/22 is always a good choice for a rifle, Mosin for a bigger rifle, and then a pistol you can do some cheap ass M1911 or Ruger Mark IV


Cheap ass M1911... Thanks for the chuckle :lol:

Honestly LV, there's starter "plinking guns" such as .22 LR pistols and rifles and there's "starter guns" which are just your normal pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc. If you aren't just going to use this firearm for target plinking and are considering buying a firearm for use as a self defense or anything else tool, I'd recommend going a bit bigger and getting a non .22 LR firearm..

Np. I mean hey a cheap M1911 just works at about 400-500 bucks. The problem is nowadays is ammo prices, at least with .22 lr it still costs me 150-200 AUD for 1400 36gr JHP .22 lr
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 01, 2021 1:12 am

What even is ammo, I feel like I haven't seen any in months now lol
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sat May 01, 2021 1:14 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:What even is ammo, I feel like I haven't seen any in months now lol

Just buy pic related
Image
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 01, 2021 1:15 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:What even is ammo, I feel like I haven't seen any in months now lol

Just buy pic related
Image


Shit man with the way the market is rn they'd sell out of those in about 7 seconds, even if they were going for $10k a bucket.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sat May 01, 2021 1:18 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Just buy pic related
Image


Shit man with the way the market is rn they'd sell out of those in about 7 seconds, even if they were going for $10k a bucket.

Fark. US ammo market must be fucked. Then again, In Australia 20 rounds of .223 Remington 55gr is 23 bucks
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat May 01, 2021 1:20 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Shit man with the way the market is rn they'd sell out of those in about 7 seconds, even if they were going for $10k a bucket.

Fark. US ammo market must be fucked. Then again, In Australia 20 rounds of .223 Remington 55gr is 23 bucks


The ammo market is 100% fucked right now. Unless you're an ammo mfg yourself or there's a small out of the way shop near you then you're gonna have a hell of a hard time finding anyone other than exceptionally niche rounds. I'm pretty sure a week or two back a site sold out of 100,000 rounds of 9mm just over 120 seconds after listing it.
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sat May 01, 2021 1:26 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Fark. US ammo market must be fucked. Then again, In Australia 20 rounds of .223 Remington 55gr is 23 bucks


The ammo market is 100% fucked right now. Unless you're an ammo mfg yourself or there's a small out of the way shop near you then you're gonna have a hell of a hard time finding anyone other than exceptionally niche rounds. I'm pretty sure a week or two back a site sold out of 100,000 rounds of 9mm just over 120 seconds after listing it.

Always good to stock up on surplus ammo, that is if you can find it
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat May 01, 2021 4:58 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:What even is ammo, I feel like I haven't seen any in months now lol

Just buy pic related
Image


Is this the gun owners' equivalent of KFC? :lol:
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat May 01, 2021 6:09 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Just buy pic related
Image


Is this the gun owners' equivalent of KFC? :lol:

I've bought a great many of those bucket ol bullets in my lifetime. Buy em and pour them into a .50cal ammo can.

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Postby Miku the Based » Sat May 01, 2021 7:14 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Shit man with the way the market is rn they'd sell out of those in about 7 seconds, even if they were going for $10k a bucket.

Fark. US ammo market must be fucked. Then again, In Australia 20 rounds of .223 Remington 55gr is 23 bucks

That's about as much as match grade 308.
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Postby The Chuck » Sat May 01, 2021 9:13 am

Lady Victory wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Just buy pic related
Image


Is this the gun owners' equivalent of KFC? :lol:


While back I threw my hat in to win an oil drum of 5.56x45mm. Unfortunately I didn't get pulled in the raffle but hey, it was worth a shot.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sat May 01, 2021 9:39 am

The Chuck wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Is this the gun owners' equivalent of KFC? :lol:


While back I threw my hat in to win an oil drum of 5.56x45mm. Unfortunately I didn't get pulled in the raffle but hey, it was worth a shot.

Ahh, the Brownells barrel ol fun.

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sat May 01, 2021 1:55 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:Just buy pic related
(Image)


Is this the gun owners' equivalent of KFC? :lol:

I bought a large bucket of chicken, does that not come with a large drink?

Sir, the bucket is the cup.

Free refills, right?
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Postby Birchland and the NAF » Sat May 01, 2021 10:32 pm

Mercatus wrote:
The Chuck wrote:
Cheap ass M1911... Thanks for the chuckle :lol:

Honestly LV, there's starter "plinking guns" such as .22 LR pistols and rifles and there's "starter guns" which are just your normal pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc. If you aren't just going to use this firearm for target plinking and are considering buying a firearm for use as a self defense or anything else tool, I'd recommend going a bit bigger and getting a non .22 LR firearm.



I've been sitting here for a while saving up cash to buy an RN-50. This video does make me a little hesitant but supposedly the chamber pressure due to that pissin' hawt SLAP was somewhere around 80,000+ PSI so I'm considering risking it still for a cheap ass fifty.


The RN-50 would still be a great investment. The key to surviving range day with it would be making sure your ammo is safe to fire.

On the other hand, finding out what kind of powder charge was in that SLAP round might come in handy for improvised grenades. That shit could’ve taken down an airplane if more of those rounds were over pressured and were fed into a gun built to withstand them.

The ammo may have been faulty, but it seems like the design of the RN-50 lends to sending shrapnel right towards the shooter. Ian did a video on how most firearms have ways of mitigating harm in the event of a catastrophic failure.
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Postby The Chuck » Sat May 01, 2021 11:57 pm

Birchland and the NAF wrote:
Mercatus wrote:
The RN-50 would still be a great investment. The key to surviving range day with it would be making sure your ammo is safe to fire.

On the other hand, finding out what kind of powder charge was in that SLAP round might come in handy for improvised grenades. That shit could’ve taken down an airplane if more of those rounds were over pressured and were fed into a gun built to withstand them.

The ammo may have been faulty, but it seems like the design of the RN-50 lends to sending shrapnel right towards the shooter. Ian did a video on how most firearms have ways of mitigating harm in the event of a catastrophic failure.


Indeed it makes me hesitate, might wait and save a bit more for a BFG-50... But at the same time...
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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Sun May 02, 2021 12:10 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Is this the gun owners' equivalent of KFC? :lol:

I've bought a great many of those bucket ol bullets in my lifetime. Buy em and pour them into a .50cal ammo can.

If I would, I'd just chuck them in a locked filing cabinet but I unfortunately need a separate safe bolted onto the foundations of my house mind you
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun May 02, 2021 9:11 am

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:I've bought a great many of those bucket ol bullets in my lifetime. Buy em and pour them into a .50cal ammo can.

If I would, I'd just chuck them in a locked filing cabinet but I unfortunately need a separate safe bolted onto the foundations of my house mind you

I just place my ammo cans next to my firearm safe and on shelves out in the reloading room. I also place a desiccant bag in each ammo can.

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Postby Roblox Crossroads » Mon May 03, 2021 3:50 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Roblox Crossroads wrote:If I would, I'd just chuck them in a locked filing cabinet but I unfortunately need a separate safe bolted onto the foundations of my house mind you

I just place my ammo cans next to my firearm safe and on shelves out in the reloading room. I also place a desiccant bag in each ammo can.

I would but Australian laws are horrendous
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Postby The Chuck » Mon May 03, 2021 1:21 pm

Cerata wrote:I am about to offend everyone here:

Zip22 best gun


Not offended since your post count seems to indicate you're rather new around these parts.
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Postby Adamede » Mon May 03, 2021 1:24 pm

Roblox Crossroads wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:What would be a good "starter gun" for someone whose never owned one before?

Ruger 10/22 is always a good choice for a rifle, Mosin for a bigger rifle, and then a pistol you can do some cheap ass M1911 or Ruger Mark IV

There are better first timer rifles out there than a Mosin, especially for the cost that people are asking for them now.

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Postby Lady Victory » Mon May 03, 2021 3:01 pm

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