GUN TALK: Doubletap

[Mercatus]

Wrong thread, man. Take this to the Gun Control thread.

People like this make me consider cocaine as an acceptable alternative to graduating school and contributing to society. I don’t wanna live in a society controlled by these people.
Also, anyone else read this with a sarcastic mental tone?

I chalk it up the to complete lack of spell checking with no commas.

People like this make me consider doing cocaine.

[Abbeyverne]

Man Im glad that my country is banning assault-style weapons! Thats a complete no-brainer issue, theyve historically caused the highest casualties in mass shootings and have proven to be more lethal than other firearm types. People saying that breaking the law still allows criminals access to these firearms dont understand that breaking the law doesnt mean we shouldnt have them in the first place. You could argue the same thing for homemade explosives, youre still gonna get arrested just by possessing them. With the new laws and re-enforcement of previous laws in the new bill being passed it will be HARDER for criminals to attain these weapons, which is the point. That said Im not really for following this up with a handgun ban. The point of the AR ban was to reduce the casualties in mass shootings from a firearm thats very good at mass shootings. Handguns arent exactly firing nato rounds with long barrel precision.

Wrong thread, man. Take this to the Gun Control thread.

Also, anyone else read this with a sarcastic mental tone?

Yes. Was he trying to get all the people on this thread to attack him then call the mods on them? Or just ignorant?

[Mercatus]

Wrong thread, man. Take this to the Gun Control thread.

Also, anyone else read this with a sarcastic mental tone?

Yes. Was he trying to get all the people on this thread to attack him then call the mods on them? Or just ignorant?

Maybe a bit of both.

[Miku the Based]

Yes. Was he trying to get all the people on this thread to attack him then call the mods on them? Or just ignorant?

Glad I filtered most of the trolls on this site. Probably would've dell for the naît if I hadn't already did so.

[Husseinarti]

9x19mm is a NATO round.

It’s a pre NATO round. It was invented by the Germans before the First World War.

9x19mm is a standard NATO pistol round.

Thanks.

The 5.7x28mm might count as a NATO round. The FN Five-Seven handguns are powerful from what I hear, or were. Could penetrate the weaker flavors of body armor out there. It was intended to replace the 9x19mm to a large extent.

I doubt it would replace the 9mm, because it's so popular, but yes, it has great penetration on soft armor, and the Ruger-57 could really change that market, as well as the KelTec P-50. Combine that with how popular the P-90 already is and you have a sizable market, but I doubt enough to unseat the 9mm.

5.7mm needs to have decent post-penetration effects on soft-tissue to even come close to threatening 9mm. As it stands a 9x19mm HP round does allot more than 5.7mm does. Fudds will tell you otherwise, by 9mm kills perfectly fine. Then you have a whole list of other drawbacks to 5.7mm that 9x19mm doesn't have.

The 5.7x28mm might count as a NATO round. The FN Five-Seven handguns are powerful from what I hear, or were. Could penetrate the weaker flavors of body armor out there. It was intended to replace the 9x19mm to a large extent.

It was intended to replace carbines and pistols issued to truck drivers because they would have to fire at Soviet SoF dudes ambushing them in West Germany. Said Soviet SoF would be kitted in heavy body armor that 9x19mm wouldn't be effective against, and giving every truck driver an M16A2 would be to much because its 1m~ long. P90's advantage is its small and carries 50-rounds in a single magazine, giving said truck driver allot of bullets to shoot. Same with the pistol, allot of bullets to shoot over the standard 7/8+1 of .45ACP or 15+1 or whatever flavor of 9x19mm pistol you use.

[Saiwania]

Saiwania, I'm not sure if you're being a bit misinformed/ignorant and saying "NATO" ammunition = power or if you're just saying the 5.7x28 could be considered a NATO cartridge since it had NATO trials but never was accepted. Either way, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

That 5.7x28 was developed to begin with for NATO's benefit and it had NATO trials, similar to how 5.56x45mm came about so all of the NATO militaries could get behind a common rifle caliber for logistical purposes if warring against Soviet Union and its allies during Cold War in Europe. Someone said there aren't pistols in civilian market firing NATO rounds and the FN Five Seven came to mind for me.

[The Two Jerseys]

Saiwania, I'm not sure if you're being a bit misinformed/ignorant and saying "NATO" ammunition = power or if you're just saying the 5.7x28 could be considered a NATO cartridge since it had NATO trials but never was accepted. Either way, I don't understand what you're trying to say.

That 5.7x28 was developed to begin with for NATO's benefit and it had NATO trials, similar to how 5.56x45mm came about so all of the NATO militaries could get behind a common rifle caliber for logistical purposes if warring against Soviet Union and its allies during Cold War in Europe. Someone said there aren't pistols in civilian market firing NATO rounds and the FN Five Seven came to mind for me.

But technically it's not a NATO round it it hasn't been standardized.

[The Chuck]

That 5.7x28 was developed to begin with for NATO's benefit and it had NATO trials, similar to how 5.56x45mm came about so all of the NATO militaries could get behind a common rifle caliber for logistical purposes if warring against Soviet Union and its allies during Cold War in Europe. Someone said there aren't pistols in civilian market firing NATO rounds and the FN Five Seven came to mind for me.

But technically it's not a NATO round it it hasn't been standardized.

^^^ *taps TTJ's post with the business end of his AR-15*

Saiwania, don't call it a NATO round when it wasn't adopted. Some folks don't understand gun jargon at points and like to misinterpret stuff or say the wrong thing.

[Mercatus]

But technically it's not a NATO round it it hasn't been standardized.

^^^ *taps TTJ's post with the business end of his AR-15*

Saiwania, don't call it a NATO round when it wasn't adopted. Some folks don't understand gun jargon at points and like to misinterpret stuff or say the wrong thing.

*Taps Chuck's post with the business end of his cut down Ithaca Mag 10*

We don't do that here, 'cause y'know, rules of firearms safety.

*Bang*

All joking aside, I agree with Chuck. Please try to avoid unintentional misinformation on this thread.

[The Chuck]

^^^ *taps TTJ's post with the business end of his AR-15*

Saiwania, don't call it a NATO round when it wasn't adopted. Some folks don't understand gun jargon at points and like to misinterpret stuff or say the wrong thing.

*Taps Chuck's post with the business end of his cut down Ithaca Mag 10*

We don't do that here, 'cause y'know, rules of firearms safety.

*Bang*

All joking aside, I agree with Chuck. Please try to avoid unintentional misinformation on this thread.

*quick draws*
*BANG!*
"I Just Fucking Shot Myself.... Oh Sonuvabitch I Just Shot Myself..."

(I hope y'all have seen that internet clip)

[Mercatus]

*Taps Chuck's post with the business end of his cut down Ithaca Mag 10*

We don't do that here, 'cause y'know, rules of firearms safety.

*Bang*

All joking aside, I agree with Chuck. Please try to avoid unintentional misinformation on this thread.

*quick draws*
*BANG!*
"I Just Fucking Shot Myself.... Oh Sonuvabitch I Just Shot Myself..."

(I hope y'all have seen that internet clip)

YES!

Saw it in a gun fail compilation (the one used by Brandon Herrera for one of his Darwin Awards videos). There was a ton of funny shit in that compilation, like the Indian guys shooting god-knows-what that sent them flying backward.

[Miku the Based]

That time a gun owner had a cookoff of a round for a minute and a half where he broke open the shotgun tried strking it a couple more times and then put it down on a table before it going off and hitting him while he was getting off his chair (thankfully the firearm was pointed down range.) forgot if he broke a rule or two.

[Adamede]

Man Im glad that my country is banning assault-style weapons! Thats a complete no-brainer issue, theyve historically caused the highest casualties in mass shootings and have proven to be more lethal than other firearm types. People saying that breaking the law still allows criminals access to these firearms dont understand that breaking the law doesnt mean we shouldnt have them in the first place. You could argue the same thing for homemade explosives, youre still gonna get arrested just by possessing them. With the new laws and re-enforcement of previous laws in the new bill being passed it will be HARDER for criminals to attain these weapons, which is the point. That said Im not really for following this up with a handgun ban. The point of the AR ban was to reduce the casualties in mass shootings from a firearm thats very good at mass shootings. Handguns arent exactly firing nato rounds with long barrel precision.

You’re a Canadian right?

The Nova Scotia shooting didn’t have a single “aSsAuLt RiFlE” used during the whole thing.

E: Above part was wrong in that the shooter had a couple of semi-auto rifles with him, but the Canadian government seems to be pretty stingy on the details roughy now, and he also has multiple handguns within as well.

Still, Nevertopia, you literally have no idea what the hell youre talking about.

[Saiwania]

The Nova Scotia shooting didn’t have a single “aSsAuLt RiFlE” used during the whole thing.

I don't really know if a semiautomatic magazine fed rifle was used or not in the incident or if any video footage exists. If any does, the RCMP quickly kept it in the dark from what I've read. I couldn't even find definitive answers on what weaponry was used. The attack just wasn't live broadcasted to the internet for posterity like the New Zealand attack was. So nobody really knows asides from some people really involved.

Supposedly, the shooter had an AR-15 equivalent and a Ruger Mini-14 included in his arsenal.

[Adamede]

The Nova Scotia shooting didn’t have a single “aSsAuLt RiFlE” used during the whole thing.

I don't really know if a semiautomatic magazine fed rifle was used or not in the incident or if any video footage exists. If any does, the RCMP quickly kept it in the dark from what I've read. I couldn't even find definitive answers on what weaponry was used. The attack just wasn't live broadcasted to the internet for posterity like the New Zealand attack was. So nobody really knows asides from some people really involved.

Supposedly, the shooter had an AR-15 equivalent and a Ruger Mini-14 included in his arsenal.

From everything I’ve seen so far the entire attack was done with handguns.

E: So again I can’t find anything that says the rifles he had were used in the attacks. Regardless they where smuggled in from the US so a firearms ban wouldn’t have stopped this shooting, and Nevertopia’s post is still dumb.

[Pax Nerdvana]

I don’t know why, but some corner of my mind is wondering how easy it would be to machine my own AR lower out of a block of aluminum. This is probably a dumb train of thought that might lead to me blowing off a finger.

[The Chuck]

I don’t know why, but some corner of my mind is wondering how easy it would be to machine my own AR lower out of a block of aluminum. This is probably a dumb train of thought that might lead to me blowing off a finger.

Not at all. Just make sure to use 6061 or 7075 Aluminum.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

I don’t know why, but some corner of my mind is wondering how easy it would be to machine my own AR lower out of a block of aluminum. This is probably a dumb train of thought that might lead to me blowing off a finger.

Pretty easy, although you're better off starting with a casting, since that's what the design intended for.

You can also router a lower out from a few blocks of wood and laminate them together.
Buttstock geometry would need to be modified, ofc,

[Pax Nerdvana]

I don’t know why, but some corner of my mind is wondering how easy it would be to machine my own AR lower out of a block of aluminum. This is probably a dumb train of thought that might lead to me blowing off a finger.

Not at all. Just make sure to use 6061 or 7075 Aluminum.

For sure. The right materials are important.

I don’t know why, but some corner of my mind is wondering how easy it would be to machine my own AR lower out of a block of aluminum. This is probably a dumb train of thought that might lead to me blowing off a finger.

Pretty easy, although you're better off starting with a casting, since that's what the design intended for.

You can also router a lower out from a few blocks of wood and laminate them together.
Buttstock geometry would need to be modified, ofc,

Originally being designed to be casted would actually make sense. Easier for mass production.
I would’ve thought wood wouldn’t be the most ideal material for making a lower.

[Grinning Dragon]

Not at all. Just make sure to use 6061 or 7075 Aluminum.

For sure. The right materials are important.

Pretty easy, although you're better off starting with a casting, since that's what the design intended for.

You can also router a lower out from a few blocks of wood and laminate them together.
Buttstock geometry would need to be modified, ofc,

Originally being designed to be casted would actually make sense. Easier for mass production.
I would’ve thought wood wouldn’t be the most ideal material for making a lower.

Plywood lower with a 50 bmg upper
For casting you can make your own green casting sand. Pretty easy ingredients. Silica sand, Bentonite Clay, and synthetic 2 cycle motor oil.

[Pax Nerdvana]

For sure. The right materials are important.
Originally being designed to be casted would actually make sense. Easier for mass production.
I would’ve thought wood wouldn’t be the most ideal material for making a lower.

Plywood lower with a 50 bmg upper

That’s awesome, and I didn’t realize that was possible. I think I could build a lower out of wood easier then I could machine one out of aluminium. I don’t have much experience with metalwork, but I’m a fair carpenter.

[Grinning Dragon]

Plywood lower with a 50 bmg upper

That’s awesome, and I didn’t realize that was possible. I think I could build a lower out of wood easier then I could machine one out of aluminum. I don’t have much experience with metalwork, but I’m a fair carpenter.

Yeah wood will work for a lower. Here is a guy that made a lower out of a piece of 2x8, took him all about 4-5 hours to make, that was back in 2014.

Before you know it, you will need a background check to buy products at Home Depot/Lowes, etc.

[Husseinarti]

Plywood lower with a 50 bmg upper

That’s awesome, and I didn’t realize that was possible. I think I could build a lower out of wood easier then I could machine one out of aluminium. I don’t have much experience with metalwork, but I’m a fair carpenter.

only issue is it'll be heavier and less durable.

[Grinning Dragon]

That’s awesome, and I didn’t realize that was possible. I think I could build a lower out of wood easier then I could machine one out of aluminium. I don’t have much experience with metalwork, but I’m a fair carpenter.

only issue is it'll be heavier and less durable.

True. However it's more of making the statement of "fuck you" and "fuck your anti gun laws".

[Mercatus]

That’s awesome, and I didn’t realize that was possible. I think I could build a lower out of wood easier then I could machine one out of aluminum. I don’t have much experience with metalwork, but I’m a fair carpenter.

Yeah wood will work for a lower. Here is a guy that made a lower out of a piece of 2x8, took him all about 4-5 hours to make, that was back in 2014.

Before you know it, you will need a background check to buy products at Home Depot/Lowes, etc.

Now, drilling the third hole is easier than ever.

Full Caveman Auto.