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Favorite intermediate cartridge?

5.56 NATO
126
45%
5.45
16
6%
7.62x39
61
22%
.30 Carbine
20
7%
.30-30 WCF
13
5%
Other
45
16%
 
Total votes : 281
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Democratic Exodian Territories
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Postby Democratic Exodian Territories » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:35 pm

Heckler and Koch? Heckle this K(L)ock.
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The Two Jerseys
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:50 pm

Anyway, as far as the poll goes the correct answer is "rotary". :twisted:
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Telconi
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Postby Telconi » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:41 pm

I voted for all of them :lol:
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The Two Jerseys
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:55 pm

Telconi wrote:I voted for all of them :lol:

You know what? Why not!

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Pax Nerdvana
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:58 pm

Telconi wrote:I voted for all of them :lol:

Because why not? :p
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Postby Germanic Templars » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:41 pm

Ah yes, that new gun smell... Time to break out the ammo and head to the range.

Also I love break-action, pump-action, bolt-action, and gas operated...

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The Greater Imperium of Man
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Postby The Greater Imperium of Man » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:47 pm

If you say bolt, I hope you mean a Boltgun? Cause how else are we supposed to fight for our emperor?
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Western Vale Confederacy
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:53 pm

I am currently planning to acquire a Canadian gun license, and buying a Stoeger coach gun.
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Germanic Templars
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Germanic Templars » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:12 am

The Greater Imperium of Man wrote:If you say bolt, I hope you mean a Boltgun? Cause how else are we supposed to fight for our emperor?


The only emperor I know goes by Kaiser. And the only bolt-gun I need is the Gewehr 98.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:47 am

Germanic Templars wrote:
The Greater Imperium of Man wrote:If you say bolt, I hope you mean a Boltgun? Cause how else are we supposed to fight for our emperor?


The only emperor I know goes by Kaiser. And the only bolt-gun I need is the Gewehr 98.

Not an '03?
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They can’t stop the Signal
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
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"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:42 am

So did we talk about the fact that the AA-12 is finally coming to the civilian market? Cuz I'm all sorts of interested.
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Pax Nerdvana
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:47 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So did we talk about the fact that the AA-12 is finally coming to the civilian market? Cuz I'm all sorts of interested.

Is it really?
The Internet killed gun control.
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Quotes
We Will Not Comply
They can’t stop the Signal
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:49 am

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So did we talk about the fact that the AA-12 is finally coming to the civilian market? Cuz I'm all sorts of interested.

Is it really?


https://www.armslist.com/blog/gear/sol- ... the-public
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Pax Nerdvana
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:51 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Is it really?


https://www.armslist.com/blog/gear/sol- ... the-public

Sweet. Maybe I should try to get one at some point.
The Internet killed gun control.
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Quotes
We Will Not Comply
They can’t stop the Signal
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:57 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:So did we talk about the fact that the AA-12 is finally coming to the civilian market? Cuz I'm all sorts of interested.

AA-12 is overrated.
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Postby Pax Nerdvana » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:58 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So did we talk about the fact that the AA-12 is finally coming to the civilian market? Cuz I'm all sorts of interested.

AA-12 is overrated.

SPAS-12 is too cliche.
The Internet killed gun control.
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Quotes
We Will Not Comply
They can’t stop the Signal
"The universe did never make sense; I suspect it was built on government contract."
-Robert Heinlein

"Affordability
Suitability (.22LR for squirrels, bigger .22s for long range little things, and big-bore for legal hunting reasons, etc)
Ammunition supply-chain (6.5x55 Swede and .303 British, although available, isn't exactly everywhere)
If it's ugly, uncomfortable, and can't shoot straight, but it accomplishes the above, then it's either a Mosin or a Hi-Point."
-Hurtful Thoughts on stuff you want in a gun
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:58 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:So did we talk about the fact that the AA-12 is finally coming to the civilian market? Cuz I'm all sorts of interested.

AA-12 is overrated.


t. guy who probably likes the 870
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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:41 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:AA-12 is overrated.


t. guy who probably likes the 870

Leave my 870fu out of this.
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Washington Resistance Army
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:46 am

Len Hyet wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
t. guy who probably likes the 870

Leave my 870fu out of this.


I'm sorry anon but your waifu is probably rusted out junk
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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:50 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Leave my 870fu out of this.


I'm sorry anon but your waifu is probably rusted out junk

Listen here u lil shit just because you have an FFL and full-auto funs and sweet sweet polymer raifus...

Wait where was I going with this?
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:57 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:AA-12 is overrated.


t. guy who probably likes the 870

I had to look that up because I had forgotten about it.
ywn be as good as this video
Gacha
Trashing other people's waifus
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EA
Douche flutes
Zimbabwe
Putting the toilet paper roll the wrong way
Every single square inch of Asia
Lewding Earth-chan
Pollution
4Chan in all its glory and all its horror
Playing the little Switch controller handheld thing in public
Treading on me
Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, and all their cousins and sisters and brothers and wife's sons
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Impaled Nazarene
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Postby Impaled Nazarene » Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pax Nerdvana wrote:Is it really?


https://www.armslist.com/blog/gear/sol- ... the-public

I'm aroused but only slightly like even semi-auto the gun is a blast but the frame and drum are awkward af.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:59 pm

Kinda like bolt actions, I know they aren't the "best", and open-bolt automatics are nifty... I've had almost universally good experiance with them.

Pump actions, not so much. (due to improper initial instruction)
Lever guns, nifty but I find them too impractical.

Simple blowback (closed bolt): Useful, simple... but simple kinda like writing with a crayon. Nothing to hate, but not much to really like.
Direct gas impingement: Carbon fouling. Everywhere.
Long stroke Gas: Bent action-bars are a pain.
Roller delayed blowback: Simple blocback, but now with 50% more fiddly-bits!

PTRD-41... recoil operated bolt action at its finest.
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Germanic Templars
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Germanic Templars » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:20 pm

Pax Nerdvana wrote:
Germanic Templars wrote:
The only emperor I know goes by Kaiser. And the only bolt-gun I need is the Gewehr 98.

Not an '03?


G3/PTR91 is good rifle, no lie there, but I love the bolt-action.

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  • X=3.13, Y=2.41
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I support Capitalism do you? If so, put this in your sig.

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Telconi
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Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:57 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Len Hyet wrote:Leave my 870fu out of this.


I'm sorry anon but your waifu is probably rusted out junk


Not if he has a good 870.
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-3.23 LIBERTARIAN

PRO:
-Weapons Rights
-Gender Equality
-LGBTQ Rights
-Racial Equality
-Religious Freedom
-Freedom of Speech
-Freedom of Association
-Life
-Limited Government
-Non Interventionism
-Labor Unions
-Environmental Protections
ANTI:
-Racism
-Sexism
-Bigotry In All Forms
-Government Overreach
-Government Surveillance
-Freedom For Security Social Transactions
-Unnecessary Taxes
-Excessively Specific Government Programs
-Foreign Entanglements
-Religious Extremism
-Fascists Masquerading as "Social Justice Warriors"

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