EU Article 13 Copyright proposal discussion thread

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Here have a soda.

I don't drink soda...

That explains why every little thing freaks you out.

[Eclius]

Someone please do a fact check for me for the question I asked earlier, can courts from individual nations declare it invalid if it violates the fundamental freedoms and liberties?

[Erdogan in cool sunglasses]

No.

[The Flutterlands]

Someone please do a fact check for me for the question I asked earlier, can courts from individual nations declare it invalid if it violates the fundamental freedoms and liberties?

Depends. It's a directive, not a law. So it's up to 28 nations of half a billion people on how to do this.

[Erdogan in cool sunglasses]

But it is true that court in one country can't just repeal the directive. Only interpretation of the directive can vary from country to country. If one cuntry tries to repeal a directive there is a great chance it will have to pay heavy financial penalties. Of course there are directives, mostly in economy sector, repealing which is better (and pay the fees) than introducing them in certain countries.

[Thermodolia]

Someone please do a fact check for me for the question I asked earlier, can courts from individual nations declare it invalid if it violates the fundamental freedoms and liberties?

In a way they can. See this is just a directive for each nation to make a national law that follows said directive. It’s entirely possible for a nation to refuse the directive

[Freezic Vast]

EU votes for copyright law that would make internet a 'tool for control'

Well it passed, albeit it barely.

[Firaxin]

EU votes for copyright law that would make internet a 'tool for control'

Well it passed, albeit it barely.

Oh boy! Another reason to oppose the EU.

[Vassenor]

EU votes for copyright law that would make internet a 'tool for control'

Well it passed, albeit it barely.

No. It passed a vote to enable it to go before the European Parliament.

[Freezic Vast]

EU votes for copyright law that would make internet a 'tool for control'

Well it passed, albeit it barely.

No. It passed a vote to enable it to go before the European Parliament.

And that vote towards the full parliament will be when?

[Vassenor]

No. It passed a vote to enable it to go before the European Parliament.

And that vote towards the full parliament will be when?

The plans still have to be agreed with representatives from the EU’s 28 governments before becoming law, but the vote reduces the chances of serious changes.

Opponents of the law vowed to fight on when the legislation comes before all MEPs for a final vote.

“I will challenge this outcome and request a vote in the European parliament next month,” said the Green MEP Julia Reda, who has been leading opposition to the law. “We can still overturn this result and preserve the free internet.”

[Eclius]

EU votes for copyright law that would make internet a 'tool for control'

Well it passed, albeit it barely.

Oh boy! Another reason to oppose the EU.

Tbh, I've never liked the concept EU

[Mestovakia]

So...what will this mean for images in factbooks?

[The Flutterlands]

So...what will this mean for images in factbooks?

Nationstates is an Australian company... I think. So idk.

[Portu Cale MKXX]

This is still in initial stages.

The measure was approved in the he European Parliament’s Legal Affairs Committee, but it will still have to:
a) Be discussed & approved in parliament
b) Approved by national governments
So far from being a done deal.


Reading some posts, i think people miss the objective of the law, which is to make Technology companies (like facebook) pay for news produced by other sources (like lets say, the Daily Telegraph).
This is clear on the lobbying side, where tech companies are going nuts against the law (1), but publishers are all in favor (2) - for obvious reasons. Social media has been taking all the advertising money for themselves, and draining publishers of revenue, while at the same time paying nothing for news they quote. The (intent) of the law is to make the social platforms pay to publishers when using their links and such.

Memes are not the target, and are likely to be ignored by any content provider under fair use provisions.

(1)
http://edima-eu.org/news/edima-reaction ... copyright/

(2)
http://www.magazinemedia.eu/pr/europes- ... free-press

[-Ocelot-]

84 European Music & Media Organizations Declare Their Support for Article 13

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/0 ... rticle-13/

The music industry must be delighted with article 13. They will finally be able to impose the draconic laws they dream of and restrict everything for everyone.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

84 European Music & Media Organizations Declare Their Support for Article 13

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/0 ... rticle-13/

The music industry must be delighted with article 13. They will finally be able to impose the draconic laws they dream of and restrict everything for everyone.

This is why I download music from NoCopyrightSounds

[-Ocelot-]

84 European Music & Media Organizations Declare Their Support for Article 13

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/0 ... rticle-13/

The music industry must be delighted with article 13. They will finally be able to impose the draconic laws they dream of and restrict everything for everyone.

This is why I download music from NoCopyrightSounds

I used to be subscribed to the YT channel. Surprisingly good music if you are into this genre.

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

This is why I download music from NoCopyrightSounds

I used to be subscribed to the YT channel. Surprisingly good music if you are into this genre.

Yeah, I'm into EDM

[Triassica]

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180 ... them.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180 ... pped.shtml

They are doing this on purpose. They know this will kill the internet and are in fact counting on it.

[Freezic Vast]

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180703/05375040163/copyright-industries-reveal-their-ultimate-goal-internet-where-everything-online-requires-license-them.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180 ... pped.shtml

They are doing this on purpose. They know this will kill the internet and are in fact counting on it.

Oh great, the return of Flutters, and his apocalyptic ramblings. Joy to the fucking world.

Also I refuse to listen to any links you post on here, because they're nothing but useless blogs from people who think they know better than they really do.

[Farnhamia]

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180703/05375040163/copyright-industries-reveal-their-ultimate-goal-internet-where-everything-online-requires-license-them.shtml

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180 ... pped.shtml

They are doing this on purpose. They know this will kill the internet and are in fact counting on it.

Oh great, the return of Flutters, and his apocalyptic ramblings. Joy to the fucking world.

Also I refuse to listen to any links you post on here, because they're nothing but useless blogs from people who think they know better than they really do.

Fine, put him on your Foes list. If you insist on making the thread about him, there will be consequences.

[Kramanica]

Guess Americans are gonna have to start smuggling memes to Europeans.

[Eclius]

This is the only thread in which I do not wish to see new posts (which are usually bad news). Tbh, I am not in an EU nation, but I think internet should be open, and used as a tool to make humanity better rather than as a corporate ATM. Anyhow, as someone said before, I think even if it gets passed, constitutional courts in individual nations may still block them, so I guess don't give your hopes up.

[Crazybloxian Empire]

Horrific. I guess I’m cancelling all my vacation plans for the EU. We should start a petition to get the EU to repeal Article 13.

Wait, something here is Ironic.

We are unlucky that Article 13 is gonna be passed but 13 is an unlucky number! HOW IRONIC!!!