Pretty much.
Disguised as women’s rights.
You know, rights go several ways and banning the burqa and the niqab takes away choice.
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by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:15 pm
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by Proctopeo » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:15 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Aellex wrote:Opinion piece being, as their name makes it obvious, mere opinions, they can be as easily discarded. Especially when coming from one who never as much set a foot on the country she's trying to talk about and can't even spell right the only word from its language she tries to use.
Er, she has spent time in France. Hence why she’s writing that. But fine, discard it all you like. I’m sure that you know better than someone with credentials.

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:16 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Er, she has spent time in France. Hence why she’s writing that. But fine, discard it all you like. I’m sure that you know better than someone with credentials.
I don't see where in the article it says she has - only the UK and the USA. UNIFEM, despite its French name, doesn't seem to have any offices that are actually in France.
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by Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:17 pm

by Aellex » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:17 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Aellex wrote:Opinion piece being, as their name makes it obvious, mere opinions, they can be as easily discarded. Especially when coming from one who never as much set a foot on the country she's trying to talk about and can't even spell right the only word from its language she tries to use.
Er, she has spent time in France. Hence why she’s writing that. But fine, discard it all you like. I’m sure that you know better than someone with credentials.

by United Muscovite Nations » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:24 pm
Aellex wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Er, she has spent time in France. Hence why she’s writing that. But fine, discard it all you like. I’m sure that you know better than someone with credentials.
Nowhere is that said so, neither in the article nor her biography. As for her credentials, pfff, don't make me laugh please!

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:25 pm
Aellex wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Er, she has spent time in France. Hence why she’s writing that. But fine, discard it all you like. I’m sure that you know better than someone with credentials.
Nowhere is that said so, neither in the article nor her biography. As for her credentials, pfff, don't make me laugh please!
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by Proctopeo » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:29 pm
But then again, I’m not surprised. You were ok with Le Pen eliminating food alternatives for Jewish and Muslim kids in the counties she and her party had control over. Even the ban on them bringing their own lunch. So yes, her credentials are better than your emotional reaction.
Sadly, my home country is reacting this way too and I fear for the shithole Europe may turn into if it doesn’t stop reacting violently to minorities.

by Aellex » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:32 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:She certainly has a way more balanced opinion than your reactionary ones. But then again, I’m not surprised. You were ok with Le Pen eliminating food alternatives for Jewish and Muslim kids in the counties she and her party had control over. Even the ban on them bringing their own lunch. So yes, her credentials are better than your emotional reaction.
Sadly, my home country is reacting this way too and I fear for the shithole Europe may turn into if it doesn’t stop reacting violently to minorities.

by Herskerstad » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:32 pm

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:33 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
She certainly has a way more balanced opinion than your reactionary ones.
That's wholly subjective.But then again, I’m not surprised. You were ok with Le Pen eliminating food alternatives for Jewish and Muslim kids in the counties she and her party had control over. Even the ban on them bringing their own lunch. So yes, her credentials are better than your emotional reaction.
From what little is actually said in the article that's specifically her opinion instead of "oh uh eh oh uh francs is doing an uh eh bad thing??", hers is basically "please no make oppression illegal"Sadly, my home country is reacting this way too and I fear for the shithole Europe may turn into if it doesn’t stop reacting violently to minorities.
Europe's already a bit of a shithole, this "emotional reaction" might actually make it better. I'm not even going to comment on the underlined.
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by Vassenor » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:33 pm

by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm
Aellex wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:She certainly has a way more balanced opinion than your reactionary ones. But then again, I’m not surprised. You were ok with Le Pen eliminating food alternatives for Jewish and Muslim kids in the counties she and her party had control over. Even the ban on them bringing their own lunch. So yes, her credentials are better than your emotional reaction.
Was I? Can I ask for some link? I'm quite interested as I have no such memories.Sadly, my home country is reacting this way too and I fear for the shithole Europe may turn into if it doesn’t stop reacting violently to minorities.
Ah, but you aren't supposed to expect the Spanish Inquisition tho. :^)
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by Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm
Herskerstad wrote:The burka as women's liberation has to be the single worst meme of this century.

by Proctopeo » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:34 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Proctopeo wrote:That's wholly subjective.
From what little is actually said in the article that's specifically her opinion instead of "oh uh eh oh uh francs is doing an uh eh bad thing??", hers is basically "please no make oppression illegal"
Europe's already a bit of a shithole, this "emotional reaction" might actually make it better. I'm not even going to comment on the underlined.
She’s Muslim. Not to mention that no, she never asked for oppression to be made illegal.
She stated very well that instead of seeking to make this into a woman’s rights thing, to see why it could cause problems with integration.

by Vassenor » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:35 pm
Herskerstad wrote:The burka as women's liberation has to be the single worst meme of this century.

by Lamur » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:35 pm

by Vassenor » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:36 pm
Lamur wrote:No religion should be above the law. If you intend to live in a culture that is different from yours, you should assimilate. Islam has nothing to do with European culture and history, it only creates division and ghettoization. Muslims should be as willing to be tolerant of our traditions and beliefs as we are of theirs, but that's not the case at all in Europe. In Muslim countries it is illegal to be gay which is punishable by death on religious grounds, yet here we're more outraged about banning a niqab and burqa. It's incomparable. "Some cultures are better than others." You can't have it both ways. Muslim countries aren't integrating our beliefs or culture or rights in their laws, why should we?

by Aellex » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:36 pm
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Yep. And yep. A black mark in the history of my country. :^)

by United Muscovite Nations » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:36 pm
Proctopeo wrote:Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
She’s Muslim. Not to mention that no, she never asked for oppression to be made illegal.
I said that her opinion seemed to summarize as "don't make oppression illegal"She stated very well that instead of seeking to make this into a woman’s rights thing, to see why it could cause problems with integration.
Seems a little backwards, and she didn't explain why it would have a negative impact on integration.

by Thyrgga » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:37 pm

by United Muscovite Nations » Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:37 pm
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