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by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:46 am

by Hakons » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:47 am
Vassenor wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Denmark bans burqas and the world loses its shit.
Saudi Arabia bans Christians and nobody says a word.
Iran executes anyone who converts to Christian and nobody says a word.
I'm sorry if some people find it hard to give a shit about Muslims wanting an exclusive right to wear face masks. If it makes you feel better I am also against sihks carrying knives on planes, and Jews sucking blood off a dick after a circumsision.
When did Saudi Arabia ban Christianity?

by Liriena » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:50 am
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by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:10 am

by Liriena » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:34 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Liriena wrote:You do realize that your every response carries an implicit admission that my observations were correct, no?
You do realize that your every response is saying the same about you? I replied in kind so deal with it. Maybe you should try to get back on topic instead of foaming at the mouth every time someone points out holes in your argument.
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by Frievolk » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:34 am
In Arabia, you also can't build a church (or, rather, couldn't. I'm not sure if that's changed), can't actually be a christian in public, will be persecuted for being christian... oh, and you can't even say you're a christian in the census (which is why they have a perfect 100% Muslim population :/)
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Never forget that the Muslims literally made up a new meaningless name for him when they forgot the name of Adam's Firstborn.

by The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:41 am
Frievolk wrote:In Arabia, you also can't build a church (or, rather, couldn't. I'm not sure if that's changed), can't actually be a christian in public, will be persecuted for being christian... oh, and you can't even say you're a christian in the census (which is why they have a perfect 100% Muslim population :/)Hakons wrote:
Not officially, though they, like most of the middle east, ban Christian evangelization and Christian conversion. You can be Christian, you just can't try to do a fundamental part of the Christian faith.

by Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:41 am
Vassenor wrote:Tsengai wrote:Well, I have no reason to be 'afraid' of Muslims, there are none here. You westerners should however.
And where is "here"?

by The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:43 am

by Kustonia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:46 am
The New Sea Territory wrote:Kustonia wrote:
I'm not a white supremacist, I'm a white nationalist. Two different things.
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.I don't think that white people are superior to anybody else, jus that they deserve a homeland like everyone else.
How is this not ok?
Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.
White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.
Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.
No strife between races, no peace between classes!

by Uxupox » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:50 am
Kustonia wrote:The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.
Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.
White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.
Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.
No strife between races, no peace between classes!
1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.
2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.
3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

by The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:59 am
Kustonia wrote:The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.
Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.
White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.
Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.
No strife between races, no peace between classes!
1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.
2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.
3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

by Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:01 am
Kustonia wrote:The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.
Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.
White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.
Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.
No strife between races, no peace between classes!
1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.
2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.
3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

by Kustonia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:01 am
The South Falls wrote:Tsengai wrote:Well, I have no reason to be 'afraid' of Muslims, there are none here. You westerners should however.
Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.

by The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:03 am
Kustonia wrote:The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.
There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.
Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.
Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/

by Estanglia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:05 am
Kustonia wrote:The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.
Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.
White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.
Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.
No strife between races, no peace between classes!
1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.
2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.
3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"

by Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:05 am
The South Falls wrote:Kustonia wrote:
There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.
Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.
Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/
I never said Muslims had the most people. Oh, and what says that Muslims have more power? Many of them at subjugated in poverty. And anyway, it's not because people don't have identities, it's because people want their religion's cause to be heard.

by Estanglia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:08 am
Kustonia wrote:The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.
There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.
Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.
Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"

by Kustonia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:10 am
Estanglia wrote:Kustonia wrote:
1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.
2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.
3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.
1) Why have a nation based on racial identity? Why not shared values instead?
2) If they wanted to, European countries could've simply closed their borders, and still can. They did not because of the economic benefits of importing people to fill labour shortages.
Also, Whites aren't oppressed because of having large African and Asian minorities, if that's what you're saying
3) Its not because of their race though. There is nothing inherent in a black man that would stop them sharing European values and traditions.

by Estanglia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:11 am
Kustonia wrote:Estanglia wrote:1) Why have a nation based on racial identity? Why not shared values instead?
2) If they wanted to, European countries could've simply closed their borders, and still can. They did not because of the economic benefits of importing people to fill labour shortages.
Also, Whites aren't oppressed because of having large African and Asian minorities, if that's what you're saying
3) Its not because of their race though. There is nothing inherent in a black man that would stop them sharing European values and traditions.
You're basing your questions on a hypothetical reality where everyone is the same race and there's no diversity because everyone has mixed. This isn't reality...yet.
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"

by Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:19 am
Kustonia wrote:The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.
There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.
Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

by Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:25 am
Ifreann wrote:Kustonia wrote:
There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.
Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.
Of course, you don't have a problem with individual Muslims. Your problem is with international Muslimry.
Right?

by Proctopeo » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:38 am
Liriena wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Denmark bans burqas and the world loses its shit.
Saudi Arabia bans Christians and nobody says a word.
Iran executes anyone who converts to Christian and nobody says a word.
Lmao are you seriously using the format of that old Joker meme?
You might as well have started with "we live in a society".

by Vassenor » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:43 am
Kustonia wrote:The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.
There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.
Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.
Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/

by Genivaria » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:43 am
Liriena wrote:Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Denmark bans burqas and the world loses its shit.
Saudi Arabia bans Christians and nobody says a word.
Iran executes anyone who converts to Christian and nobody says a word.
Lmao are you seriously using the format of that old Joker meme?
You might as well have started with "we live in a society".
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