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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:46 am

Liriena wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:At least I am not just ranting about feminism and trying to free a fish from water.

Non sequitur much, hon?

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Postby Hakons » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Denmark bans burqas and the world loses its shit.

Saudi Arabia bans Christians and nobody says a word.

Iran executes anyone who converts to Christian and nobody says a word.

I'm sorry if some people find it hard to give a shit about Muslims wanting an exclusive right to wear face masks. If it makes you feel better I am also against sihks carrying knives on planes, and Jews sucking blood off a dick after a circumsision.


When did Saudi Arabia ban Christianity?


Not officially, though they, like most of the middle east, ban Christian evangelization and Christian conversion. You can be Christian, you just can't try to do a fundamental part of the Christian faith.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:50 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Liriena wrote:Non sequitur much, hon?

Pot meet kettle

You do realize that your every response carries an implicit admission that my observations were correct, no?
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:10 am

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Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Pot meet kettle

You do realize that your every response carries an implicit admission that my observations were correct, no?

You do realize that your every response is saying the same about you? I replied in kind so deal with it. Maybe you should try to get back on topic instead of foaming at the mouth every time someone points out holes in your argument.
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Postby Liriena » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:34 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Liriena wrote:You do realize that your every response carries an implicit admission that my observations were correct, no?

You do realize that your every response is saying the same about you? I replied in kind so deal with it. Maybe you should try to get back on topic instead of foaming at the mouth every time someone points out holes in your argument.

Lmao nice gaslighting at the end

Dude, you couldn't make me "foam at the mouth" if you tried. :lol2:
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Postby Frievolk » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:34 am

Hakons wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
When did Saudi Arabia ban Christianity?


Not officially, though they, like most of the middle east, ban Christian evangelization and Christian conversion. You can be Christian, you just can't try to do a fundamental part of the Christian faith.
In Arabia, you also can't build a church (or, rather, couldn't. I'm not sure if that's changed), can't actually be a christian in public, will be persecuted for being christian... oh, and you can't even say you're a christian in the census (which is why they have a perfect 100% Muslim population :/)
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:41 am

Frievolk wrote:
Hakons wrote:
Not officially, though they, like most of the middle east, ban Christian evangelization and Christian conversion. You can be Christian, you just can't try to do a fundamental part of the Christian faith.
In Arabia, you also can't build a church (or, rather, couldn't. I'm not sure if that's changed), can't actually be a christian in public, will be persecuted for being christian... oh, and you can't even say you're a christian in the census (which is why they have a perfect 100% Muslim population :/)

Saudi Arabia is crazy in every way. Doesn't really mean much.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:41 am

Vassenor wrote:
Tsengai wrote:Well, I have no reason to be 'afraid' of Muslims, there are none here. You westerners should however.


And where is "here"?

Has there ever been an attack in Europe committed by Muslim women that wasn't a movie plotline?
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:43 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And where is "here"?

Has there ever been an attack in Europe committed by Muslim women that wasn't a movie plotline?

According to those that want to see it that way for a debate point, yes. All the movie plotline attacks were real.
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Postby Kustonia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:46 am

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I'm not a white supremacist, I'm a white nationalist. Two different things.


In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.

I don't think that white people are superior to anybody else, jus that they deserve a homeland like everyone else.

How is this not ok?


Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.

White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.

Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.




No strife between races, no peace between classes!


1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.

2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.

3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.
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Postby Uxupox » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:50 am

Kustonia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.



Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.

White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.

Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.




No strife between races, no peace between classes!


1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.

2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.

3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.


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Postby The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:59 am

Kustonia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.



Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.

White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.

Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.




No strife between races, no peace between classes!


1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.

2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.

3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

Hey, NatSoc, let's not do that, I don't want to be in a camp. And anyway, not everywhere has to be an ethno-state. Diversity can triumph. The reason people migrate to Europe from Africa is because there are more opportunities there. We don't need an ethno-state because people want opportunities.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:01 am

Kustonia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.



Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.

White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.

Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.




No strife between races, no peace between classes!


1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.

2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.

3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

All that was missing is "Anti-racist is code for Anti-white".
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
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Postby Kustonia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:01 am

The South Falls wrote:
Tsengai wrote:Well, I have no reason to be 'afraid' of Muslims, there are none here. You westerners should however.

Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.



There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/
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Postby The South Falls » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:03 am

Kustonia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.



There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/

I never said Muslims had the most people. Oh, and what says that Muslims have more power? Many of them at subjugated in poverty. And anyway, it's not because people don't have identities, it's because people want their religion's cause to be heard.
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Postby Estanglia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:05 am

Kustonia wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
In practice, there's no difference. Making a white homeland, on a function level, means treating non-whites as non-citizens and enforcing the rule and homogeneity of white states.



Because it ignores the history of imperialism by which white, capitalist countries systematically attacked and displaced indigenous populations, by slaughtering them, making them slaves, stealing their land, forcibly converting them to Christianity, suppressing their language, etc.

White people are too oppressed by the economics of imperialism, whether directly (for example, Ireland) or indirectly (through outsourcing jobs, through imperialist wars where working class Europeans die for the profits of capitalists). But white people are not oppressed based on their race.

Lastly, "white people" cannot have a coherent homeland because "white people" do not collectively share much in common. Various ethnic groups all fall under "white". What unites a Pole with a Scot isn't their need for a white homeland, but their socioeconomic conditions and their interests as members of the a international working class.




No strife between races, no peace between classes!


1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.

2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.

3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

1) Why have a nation based on racial identity? Why not shared values instead?
2) If they wanted to, European countries could've simply closed their borders, and still can. They did not because of the economic benefits of importing people to fill labour shortages.
Also, Whites aren't oppressed because of having large African and Asian minorities, if that's what you're saying
3) Its not because of their race though. There is nothing inherent in a black man that would stop them sharing European values and traditions.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:05 am

The South Falls wrote:
Kustonia wrote:

There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/

I never said Muslims had the most people. Oh, and what says that Muslims have more power? Many of them at subjugated in poverty. And anyway, it's not because people don't have identities, it's because people want their religion's cause to be heard.

It's interesting how some people alternate between bringing up how some Muslims allied with the Nazis in World War 2 and ignoring that whenever it's convenient.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Estanglia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:08 am

Kustonia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.



There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/

Don't get me started on the BS idea of 'international finance ruling the world'.
Also, more people doesn't mean more power, especially when many are dirt poor.
Yeah: Egalitarianism, equality
Meh: Labour, the EU
Nah: pointless discrimination, authoritarianism, Brexit, Trump, both American parties, the Conservatives
I flop between "optimistic about the future" and "pessimistic about the future" every time I go on NSG.

(Taken 29/08/2020)
Political compass test:
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

8values thinks I'm a Libertarian Socialist.

Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"

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Postby Kustonia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:10 am

Estanglia wrote:
Kustonia wrote:
1) It's actually not forcing non-citizenship to non-whites. It's enforcing the natural reality of race as a part of identity.

2) The white ethno-state doesn't have to be capitalist. I'm actually not a capitalist. Asia is Asian, Africa is African, but Europe is Asian, African, and European nowadays. This is not fair! White people are truly oppressed by both international capitalism and socialism! We need a National socialism.

3) White people share Europe, similar family values and traditions. Every racial group in the world has similar values and belief systems. Once you study Anthropology, you will understand this.

1) Why have a nation based on racial identity? Why not shared values instead?
2) If they wanted to, European countries could've simply closed their borders, and still can. They did not because of the economic benefits of importing people to fill labour shortages.
Also, Whites aren't oppressed because of having large African and Asian minorities, if that's what you're saying
3) Its not because of their race though. There is nothing inherent in a black man that would stop them sharing European values and traditions.


You're basing your questions on a hypothetical reality where everyone is the same race and there's no diversity because everyone has mixed. This isn't reality...yet.
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Favorite Philosophers/Theoreticians: Plato, Julius Evola, Ernst Jünger, Oswald Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Aleksandr Dugin, Alain De Benoist, Georges Sorel
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Postby Estanglia » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:11 am

Kustonia wrote:
Estanglia wrote:1) Why have a nation based on racial identity? Why not shared values instead?
2) If they wanted to, European countries could've simply closed their borders, and still can. They did not because of the economic benefits of importing people to fill labour shortages.
Also, Whites aren't oppressed because of having large African and Asian minorities, if that's what you're saying
3) Its not because of their race though. There is nothing inherent in a black man that would stop them sharing European values and traditions.


You're basing your questions on a hypothetical reality where everyone is the same race and there's no diversity because everyone has mixed. This isn't reality...yet.

What are you talking about? I never said that.
Yeah: Egalitarianism, equality
Meh: Labour, the EU
Nah: pointless discrimination, authoritarianism, Brexit, Trump, both American parties, the Conservatives
I flop between "optimistic about the future" and "pessimistic about the future" every time I go on NSG.

(Taken 29/08/2020)
Political compass test:
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

8values thinks I'm a Libertarian Socialist.

Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:19 am

Kustonia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.



There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Of course, you don't have a problem with individual Muslims. Your problem is with international Muslimry.

Right?
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Postby Petrasylvania » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Kustonia wrote:

There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Of course, you don't have a problem with individual Muslims. Your problem is with international Muslimry.

Right?

They're just like the Bugs. Get more dangerously intelligent in greater numbers. /s
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Postby Proctopeo » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:38 am

Liriena wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Denmark bans burqas and the world loses its shit.

Saudi Arabia bans Christians and nobody says a word.

Iran executes anyone who converts to Christian and nobody says a word.

Lmao are you seriously using the format of that old Joker meme?

You might as well have started with "we live in a society". :lol2:

You claim to have a point here, I see, but the lie detector determined that was a lie.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:43 am

Kustonia wrote:
The South Falls wrote:Hey, my guy. There's terrorism from every group. According to that logic, I should be scared of Muslims, Christians, Jews, White People, Black People, Africans, Europeans, those crazy people in the subway in New York, and New Yorkers in general. It doesn't make sense. And anyway, there are Muslims everywhere. When your religion has 1.4 billion people, then yes, that's what happens.



There's terrorism everywhere because people don't have an identity to define, so they act out illegally to prove their satisfaction with the way things are.

Muslims are everywhere, but white people aren't. That gives Muslims more power over international finance and business, instead of sovereignty for everybody.

Christianity is the fastest growing religion in the world and has the most followers, btw. https://liveasfreepeople.com/2017/10/13 ... -in-world/


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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:43 am

Liriena wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:Denmark bans burqas and the world loses its shit.

Saudi Arabia bans Christians and nobody says a word.

Iran executes anyone who converts to Christian and nobody says a word.

Lmao are you seriously using the format of that old Joker meme?

You might as well have started with "we live in a society". :lol2:

I mean, he's not wrong.

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