No they shouldn’t
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by Thermodolia » Thu May 31, 2018 3:57 pm
by Geneviev » Thu May 31, 2018 3:58 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Geneviev wrote:It would not solve the problems. It would only conceal them. The best solution would be to teach that differences are a good thing instead of something to hide.
It is not good, perhaps, but it is permitted with freedom of expression unless it causes the child to be harmed.
Differences are not necessarily a good thing if they permit worse behaviors and mindsets, there, the differences should be confronted and eliminated. One person thinking it is their right to mutilate children is not a difference we can or should tolerate. A culture of them doing so likewise, and is something to crack down on.
I disagree that it would not solve the problems, because we'd only be targeting the problematic aspects of these cultures, things that should be banned, as well as pressuring for assimilation through banning faith schools and so on. Multiculturalism already merely conceals the problems (poorly.)
I don't much care about freedom of expression in these contexts.
by Washington Resistance Army » Thu May 31, 2018 3:58 pm
Cekoviu wrote:Gharrow wrote:Differences are not a good thing, they are the reason terrorist attacks and violence in general occur. Differences within a society lead to a divided society and then to a broken society warring with itself.
Here's the thing: every individual is different. Unless you want to make the entire citizenry of a country mindless, brainwashed robots, you can't really dislike differences.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 31, 2018 3:58 pm
The Parkus Empire wrote:Seems kinda petty and stupid. If you don't want Muslims, don't let them in. Don't let them in and then shit on their faith after the fact
by Benuty » Thu May 31, 2018 3:58 pm
by Vassenor » Thu May 31, 2018 3:58 pm
by Thermodolia » Thu May 31, 2018 3:58 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 31, 2018 3:59 pm
Geneviev wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Differences are not necessarily a good thing if they permit worse behaviors and mindsets, there, the differences should be confronted and eliminated. One person thinking it is their right to mutilate children is not a difference we can or should tolerate. A culture of them doing so likewise, and is something to crack down on.
I disagree that it would not solve the problems, because we'd only be targeting the problematic aspects of these cultures, things that should be banned, as well as pressuring for assimilation through banning faith schools and so on. Multiculturalism already merely conceals the problems (poorly.)
I don't much care about freedom of expression in these contexts.
Mutilating children is not the same thing as choosing to wear religious things of any sort.
by The Parkus Empire » Thu May 31, 2018 3:59 pm
by Benuty » Thu May 31, 2018 4:00 pm
by Thermodolia » Thu May 31, 2018 4:00 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Thu May 31, 2018 4:00 pm
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 31, 2018 4:00 pm
by Great Mashriq » Thu May 31, 2018 4:01 pm
by Benuty » Thu May 31, 2018 4:01 pm
by Geneviev » Thu May 31, 2018 4:01 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Geneviev wrote:Mutilating children is not the same thing as choosing to wear religious things of any sort.
Religion should be a private matter, and public displays of it and so on further divisions in society and prevent assimilation. What we are doing is not working, we need new approaches.
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 31, 2018 4:01 pm
by The Parkus Empire » Thu May 31, 2018 4:01 pm
by Thermodolia » Thu May 31, 2018 4:01 pm
by Serrus » Thu May 31, 2018 4:02 pm
Eastern Raarothorgren wrote:News websites are good and reasonable soruces of information or they would not be on the internet if they were saying things that were incorrect.
Keshiland wrote:I am yes arguing that the 1st 4 are not binding to the states and yes I know that in most Republican states they would ban the freedom of religion and the freedom of essembally but I don't live there and I hate guns!
by Ostroeuropa » Thu May 31, 2018 4:02 pm
by Thermodolia » Thu May 31, 2018 4:02 pm
Geneviev wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Religion should be a private matter, and public displays of it and so on further divisions in society and prevent assimilation. What we are doing is not working, we need new approaches.
It would not be causing divisions if people learned to be more accepting. That's only not working because some people refuse to honour diversity.
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